The Middle Name Hussein for Sen. Obama, page 1
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reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 04:23 PM by 420prajna
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You must be joking. Who the hell cares? Would you be more comfortable if his middle name was Bill, or Ed? Obviously...this country is still full of predjudiced and racist people. And he is not a christian, he is not a muslim he is a free thinking secular, rational person like most educated people.



reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 04:30 PM by pikypiky
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Well, according to one of those baby names website, the origin of the name 'Hussein' ('handsome') is Arabic, which is also the language of Islam. What's in a name? I see only respect for his Muslim forefathers when someone has an Islamic middle name. His faith as a Christian now should be embraced by those same 'G-d fearing' people whom he has not done any wrong.


reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 04:33 PM by LAUGHING-CAT
reply to post by 420prajna

I'm with ya.
I don't like Obama because of his politics.
I am convinced the people that use the religion/ race/ name/ age/ upbringing/ WHATEVER!, are the people that aren't informed enough to understand the candidates stand on real issues.


reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 04:33 PM by PsychoHazard
Originally posted by Barbs46I keep trying to research Barack Hussein Obama's middle name and it keeps coming up as Islamic or Arabic origin. It's definitions range from the word "small" to "handsome" and something to do with the royal family of Jordan.


Husayn, Hussein, Hossain, Hussain, Husain, Hosein (Arabic:حسین Turkish: Hüseyin), is an Arabic name which is the diminutive of Hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome". It is commonly given as a male given name among Muslims, after Husayn ibn Ali, although the name is so common it is also given to persons of secular backgrounds. In some Persian sources the form Háosayn is used.

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It's a fairly common name throughout the arab world and parts of Africa and Asia.

Originally posted by Barbs46It is this confusion that brings me to the ATS forum for any information that a Christian would feel comfortable with a middle name of "Hussein"?


Unfortunately, whether he's comfortable with it or not, it's the middle name his parents gave him. You might take note that he doesn't tend to use it. Mostly it is used by his detractors, generally to imply that he's a "secret Muslim", or "Crypto-Islamic" for those who like the big words.

Of course, that's just as ridiculous as implying that John Sidney McCain III is a "secret woman" (Crypto-Female?) because his middle name is Sidney.

Originally posted by Barbs46There have been times this campaign season that I think this is all some kind of joke and I'm just not getting it. Or maybe the joke's on me.


Sometimes, the joke is on all of us. They're playing out a "smear and distract" campaign strategy this time around, to keep anyone from paying attention to the real issues.

Originally posted by Barbs46When I was Baptized, my first and middle names were used as my "Christian name", not my last name. So, as a Christian, am I right in assuming that Senator Obama's Christian name is "Barack Hussein".


I think it really depends on the church. Traditionally, a "Christian Name" merely meant your first name, or in the case of foreign converts, the name you were given by the priest when you were baptised.

Originally posted by Barbs46Again, if someone can clarify this I would appreciate it. I am, however, more than a little tired of the injection of religion into our political system which our constitutional forefathers wanted to have a strong separation of church and state. Unfortunately, the neocons of the last 8 years have whittled away at that part and we are not healthier for it. If anything, it is polarizing us even more.


I have to agree with you there. The neocons and the religious reich... er... right keep complaining about the secularization of America and that our country was founded on Christian values, and keep trying to push more of their religious leanings on us every day. The separation of Church and State were put in place to prevent just this sort of thing, to protect freedom of religion, and to make sure that no religion gained power over our government. The religion of our politicians shouldn't be an issue because they should not be injecting religious values and issues into the politics in the first place.

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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 12:29 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by pikypiky



Arabic is a language that existed before Islam did. It's not the language of Islam. It is a language spoken in a large area of the Middle East and Africa. Christians and Jews also speak Arabic.
Look at this website for words used by Christians and Jews and Arabs in their religious life. They include the word "Allah" meaning God. Yes, Christians and Jews pray to Allah, if they speak Arabic.
en.wikipedia.org...

Hussein is an Arabic name, but it is not an Islamic name. It is older than Islam.


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 12:56 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by justamomma



....yeah (?) that'd be .... really ironic



I guess we could say the same for any of the following




Robert Mugabe is strikingly similar to Robert Kennedy .....



Charles Manson shares the SAME FIRST NAME with Charles Fairbanks who was the 26th vice president under Teddy Roosevelt


Benedict Arnold has the same last name as the governator of Californias' first name Arnold Schwarzenegger .. so i guess California is screwed, right?



I realize you're just posting to troll and get a rouse out of people, but in the event someone is actually dull and gullible enough to believe what you posted, i thought id' show everyone how utterly ignorant this line of thinking really is.


Honest to God: What the *snip* has happened to this country?

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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 01:00 PM by justamomma
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin




yes, there are other things that are ironic as well.

i think you are so in love you are not realizing that i am not using his name as a reason to not vote for him. to do so is ridiculous in my opinion. just wanted to say it for *snips* and grins (although i am sure i am not the first and the way some ppl get, i am sure it has been pointed out as reasons to not vote for him such as him not wearing a flag pin blah blah ).

nah, i have many other reasons to not vote for him. just pure *snips* and grins considering the topic of this thread.

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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 01:27 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Barbs46
Again, if someone can clarify this I would appreciate it.


I can clarify it!

Check this thread for sources:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Barack's ancestors in Kenya were Christian. His Grandfather was a traveler who moved for a time to Zanzibar (a Muslim populated African Island) and converted from Christianity to Islam and adopted the name "Hussein". Once he settled down in Kenya and married, he named his son "Hussein". And he gave Barack his middle name.

You can examine Barack's family tree Here

So, yes, the name is of Arab descent, but his entire family was born in Kenya and he is NOT Arab at all.

Not that it would matter if he was. I have known many Arab people and they have been wonderful!

When I was baptized, they did not mess with my nome. Not sure what you're talking about there.

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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 01:40 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by LLoyd45



Soetoro is his step father's last name. That has nothing to do with Barack's name or heritage. And that video is a bunch of BS. Obama was born in Hawaii. Anyone born in the US is a US citizen. Natural-born.



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