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Topic started on 19-6-2008 @ 11:19 PM by Animal

Florida's Republican House Speaker calls McCain 'disingenuous' for linking drilling to gas prices.»



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Though he supports offshore drilling, Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio (R) “challenged Gov. Charlie Crist and John McCain’s implication that drilling could lower gas prices anytime soon.” Rubio told the Miami Herald today that Crist and McCain are making a “disingenuous” and “flawed” argument:

“For anyone to represent that someone drilling off the coast in Florida is going to lower gas prices here or anywhere in this country is disingenuous and a flawed argument..."
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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 11:40 PM by Animal
reply to post by tom goose


Could you please clarify your point and provide some sort of evidence for what you are saying? I am one not convinced and two slightly confused by what you are trying to say. Thanks.


reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 11:46 PM by tom goose
reply to post by Animal



UUHHH, OK.

There is lots of oil.

Nobody is pumping the oil.

OPEC has caps on oil production.


You want lower prices, you get a more abundant supply.

its quit simple really, try google "untapped oil"

When the arm thingy on the well isnt moving, nothing is being pumped, kapeesh.

would you like me to explain the birds and bees to you as well?


reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 11:50 PM by Animal
reply to post by tom goose


What you are ignoring is what McCain is talking about doing mate...

You are talking about TAPED wells, McCain is talking about EXPLORING for MORE wells.

These are two DIFFERENT things.

I know what you are talking about I was just trying to nudge you towards realizing your point was OUT OF CONTEXT.

McCain is NOT, as you say "correct" as his logic is flawed. Searching for more oil in the waters surrounding the USA is not going to help in the present. It very well could int he future but to make the assertion that such drilling would help anytime soon is patently disingenuous.


reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 12:03 AM by tom goose
reply to post by Animal


I understand I do, but you have to realize that politician cant just come out and say "the oil companies are screwing you, they are holding back production to make you pay more with false speculation." Even the most liberal politician could not say that in public. So they speak in a sort of code, one that send that message to the voters that he has a solution to the problem, but in a tone that does not upset the big boys hussle.

McCain did make a false statement but remained on the level, you cannot argue with him on that level because then you are admitting that there is some sort of real problem here, and not just the work of greed.


reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 12:06 AM by Animal
reply to post by tom goose


wow. now my head hurts. unless i am mistaken you said two, opposing things, int hat post.



reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 12:09 AM by tom goose
Originally posted by Animal
reply to post by tom goose


wow. now my head hurts. unless i am mistaken you said two, opposing things, int hat post.

Thats politics


just joking buddy, i dont think we are on the same page


reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 08:58 AM by Animal
reply to post by RRconservative


Wake up mate.


Combined, oil and gas companies hold leases to nearly 68 million acres
of federal land and waters that they are not producing oil and gas (Figure 4).
Oil and gas companies would not buy leases to this land without believing oil
and gas can be produced there, yet these same companies are not producing
oil or gas from these areas already under their control.
If we extrapolate from today=s production rates on federal land and
waters, we can estimate that the 68 million acres of leased but currently
inactive federal land and waters could produce an additional 4.8 million
barrels of oil and 44.7 billion cubic feet of natural gas each day.


But they need more land to drill in? Try to explain that away. You act as if ANWR is the ONLY option. Did you know oil companies already hold leases to massive amounts of Alaska land and sea?


Proponents of drilling in Alaska are most often focused on a 1.5 million
acre area in the 19.2 million acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).
Established in 1960 and expanded in 1980, ANWR includes a 1.5 million acre
area of the coastal plain known as the A1002 area@ which requires
Congressional authorization before oil drilling may proceed there.
However, in addition to ANWR, there are another nearly 91 million acres
currently open to leasing in the Arctic region of Alaska, including onshore and
offshore lands. Oil and gas companies have leased only 11.8 million of the 91
million acres.


So again, wake up and smell the lies you have been eating mate:


On the Outer Continental Shelf, 82% of federal natural gas and 79% of
federal oil is located in areas that are currently open for leasing.

Onshore, 62% of oil and 84% of natural gas resources are either fully
accessible under standard lease stipulations designed to protect lands
and wildlife, or will be accessible pending the completion of land-use
planning or environmental reviews.


Or you could keep waving hte flag for those who are lying to ALL of us, you included.

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