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Originally posted by bruxfain
reply to post by spy66
Oh yeah, I am talking about my own life. This is the stuff I have to live with everyday. All of the people I mention are around me everyday. Like the shah and the khan. aka the priest and the military leader.
And one more thing, I've seen a lot of predictions. So, just consider mine one of many.
[edit on 20-6-2008 by bruxfain]
Originally posted by bruxfain
reply to post by Anti_
The goal of the US military is not to take over Iraq. It was to remove Saddam Hussein and to support the development of a secure and stable democratic system that serves the Iraqi people. It is to provide support for the development of their oil sector and bring stability to the region.
I was always taught, among many things, to trust what people say and hold them to their words. I think the problem is Americans have learned to believe that they are liars, murderers and thieves. Is that what you think of yourself. I know I am not a criminal.
Do you actually believe that Bush and Cheney, elected by the American people, just pulled off a murder and armed robbery in Iraq? America is winning the war, is too strong to lose and if oil is what they wanted they could have bought the entire country with the money spent at war.
It is not logical or even sensible.
Originally posted by spy66
Well sice we are on this subject . The word of god is something that i cought the grasp off by reading about history and its very new to me. Religion is a big part off auer history. But the thing is that i belive that God is. And that we are heading some where , i sort off have that gott fealing. Its a good feeling ,but i cant explaine it. Thats why i am here to debate and finde out what others might say , think and feel. But to get results you have to be active and put the words out there, so you will get a reaction. Otherwise youre on youre own. And thats not healthy , you can make bad mistakes. And that might not be good for my family or freinds. I dont whant to feed them lies. Or go on this forum with a buch off bull
[edit on 20-6-2008 by spy66]
Originally posted by bruxfain
reply to post by spy66
IMO It doesn't make sense to have gone to Iraq for oil. The west can buy every drop of oil Iraq has or will ever produce. Moreover in the west we actually have the processing capacity to make oil worth something. The middle east has a lot oil but very little if any ability to transform it into something of value. Oil, in its natural form, is messy and it stinks.
If someone says we didn't want Hussein to get the money. I say why, you say he's not a threat and has no WMDs. He can use the money to care for his people. Maybe GWB really doesn't like Saddam and wants him dead. You don't need a war to get a weak leader like saddam killed. His own people would have done it.
There has to be a real reason we went to Iraq and I think it was because SH was an exceptionally dangerous man. You don't rise to power in this world and keep it for 28 years by being a push over. The US didn't put him into power. He put himself into power and the US had to accept it because he was strong enough at the time to make it that way.
Take any world leader. I don't care how benign or harmless they look, they have got a side that if you cross it they'll show you how they got the power.
This is what I think SH was up to. He wanted to live forever in this world. He along with others devised an evil plan and carried it out. The plot they hatched is frankly, a bit hard to sell to the average person. So they say he is hiding a WMD program. Everyone knows what a nuke is, but most people don't have the capacity to contemplate in detail global subversion and intrigue, which technically is conceptually nuclear and biological and if their spies use poison, chemical.
The same thing with Iran. They probably don't have any "Nuclear Warheads", but they will try to subvert the governments of the world.
You do this by catching Adam. If you can make yourself the boss of Adam then you're the boss of the whole world. Because everyone knows that God made Adam the boss over everybody.
But maybe I am wrong, maybe the wealthiest nations on Earth wanted to save a couple of bucks so they decided to kill a million people and steal their dirt.
Originally posted by bruxfain
reply to post by spy66
Why do I believe that SH is trying to go above Adam. That's the game; its always been the game. In the Christian world Jesus is King of Kings. The only other people to ever claim that title for themselves are the Shahs and the Khans. The Shahs and Khans are a pair that have been together since the beginning of history and they have always fought together against the true king. Gilgamesh and Enkidu, that was the shah and khan. The priest and the military leader. They team up to kill Humbaba, the ruler of the Cedar Forest. In their world Adam dies. In Adams world they die.
I have no evidence that Gilgamesh and Enkidu are the shah and khan, but who else could they have been? SH often compared himself to Nebuchadnezzer and other historical rulers from that region. Gilgamesh was King of Uruk. Nebuchadnezzer conquered Jerusalem. Jerusalem is near, or maybe at that time in the Cedar Forests. SH was good buddies with the last Shah of Iran and even invaded the Iran shortly after the clerics revolution.
I'll admit its all speculation. But I've played and been successful at a lot of sports in my life, so I've learned to trust my own judgement. At some point in life you'll have to make a decision, I hope you're not walking around in the dark looking for suitable evidence to support yourself.
I enjoy these topics and have an extensive background but I only have 4000 characters for my responses. An adequate response to most of these topics would require a volume of books.
PS. I have no evidence to support my belief that revolutionary Iran was subverted and overthrown in the summer of 1988, and replaced with a government that was subservient to the Shah, but I consider it a possibility with profound implications.
Originally posted by spy66
A human life is worth a lot , but the dollar is worth a lot more.
In moral we say somthing els to please the crouds but in real life we dont care.
You americans lost this war the 21 of desember in 1913. When you let the private banks run the creation of federal reserve.
Read about JP Morgan , Rockefellers and the Rothchields and you will find out who runs youre life. Or see this movie and try and findout if there is anny truth in it.
video.google.com...