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Jason Bermas Said UFOs & Aliens Are Garbage, & There is no Proof!

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posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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I listen to the Alex Jones show every day, & over the past few days a couple of callers wanted to talk about Aliens and Jason Bermas, the guy filling in for Alex got really angry & said that there is no proof of the Greys with the big heads, or blood sucking Reptoids or whatever! we talk about Politics here, & REAL issues, & we don't talk about UFOs on here man!'

I understand he is busy with all the distracting current events of the Reptillian elite, (LOL), to not have had time to checkout the entire 2001 disclosure project press conference for example, or really even concider it.

Well here's why it should be more than concidered to at least allow the people to say what they wanted to say, because most people around 80% or more know UFOs & Alien abductions are definitely occuring without a doubt.

Even Steven Greer thought that the prospect for a staged Alien invasion was a little cooky, until he heard it coming from various credible sources. I firmly believe they intend to trick us using reverse engeneered UFOs to fool us into accepting A World government for worldwide martial law. - By screening this information, he is effectively guaranteeing they continue their agenda.

The callers could've just been calling to talk about a sighting, & that would've been a waste of time, but if they were going to want to talk about the above or free energy, it would've been a good idea to swallow your fear of ridicule & possible short term loss of credibility to just let the callers explain the main point.

That would not only be just fair, but it would be a wize thing to do, Jason Bermas.
Alex jones has spoken of the human sacrifices at the Grove, & I was REALLY surprised to have seen that he had a guest that was talking about UFO energy several months ago... It's okay to 'loosen' up on that Jason ;-)




posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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People such as Jason Bermas are simply misinformed.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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Don't worry bro, he doesn't mean it.

Jason just doesn't want the MSM to start suddenly paying attention to the Alex Jones show just because he covered a topic considered too abstract.

He knows about chemtrails, but remember Bermas is trying to do his Very Best job at being a Professional Journalist, unbiased. (He tries :lol


I guess he just doesn't want a Soundbite to come out that could be used to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement. It seems like the Neocon Media would love to get their hands on The Alex Jones show talking about the existence of aliens, lizards and such - they are apolitical show and never even make it through all their news as the Government is just too crooked to keep up with these days... 24 worth hours of lies and high crimes condensed to 4 hours.

The closest they come to ATS type material is the advanced weaponry and CERN, haaarp and weather mods etc etc... I like CTC am though. It's like ATS coming out of the radio



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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I am afraid I have to agree with AJ's and Bermas's stand on UFOlogy.

They simply cannot open that pandora's box on their show - they specifically cover government corruption/ liberty issues and increasing their scope would only give the disinformation specialists too much room to spin their courageous work.

Plus, AJ and Bermas have NO expertise in these areas so why not leave UFOlogy discussions to more experienced researchers such as Stanton Freidman.

AJ has said we have to be careful not to fightr amongst each other over the small details but rather form a community of truth activists who all work to expose the areas of their expetise/interest for public discussion.

I believe groups like we are change are doing a great job to fulfill this vision - and I hope the UFOlogy community will start forming grassroot organizations like this to also in the near future.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 02:22 PM
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He is correct in that there is no proof. While there is tons of evidence, there has yet to be a smoking gun. The idea is to collect the evidence and keep looking for a smoking gun.
The host should not of been so hard on the callers as a simple "We are not going to be discussing UFOs today" would be nice



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 02:36 PM
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Well, there is no conclusive proof, or we would have heard about it.

All we have at this point is a lot of suggestive evidence that something odd may be happening, and we don't even know what it suggests.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 02:37 PM
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Why am I supposed to care what "Jason Bermas" says?

Is he suddenly the keeper of all knowledge in the universe and final word on the answers to all of lifes mysteries and questions?


I think I will continue to base what I know on what I have lived through personally and not what Jason Bermas says.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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I am continually looking and don't care what the debunkers say. There is something out there and the evidence is overwhelming. There is no proof of it to take to the bank. If there is, the government is hiding it.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by kidflash2008
If there is, the government is hiding it.


Very convenient. The dog ate all the homework, huh? So now there are two things to prove: 1) the time travelers or aliens really exist, and 2) the government is hiding the evidence. While we're at it, why don't we add that the government is hiding it on orders from the Reptilians. Then we'll have even more to prove.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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I do not understand why he says there are no UFOs? If there is a flying object you cannot identify (like a secret military project) - you just witnessed an UFO.
However about aliens - i can partially understand him - there are people who claim to know how many races are there, their history and such without any proof whatsoever. Books are published, money being made and yet no sensible explanations as for why aliens will come here from all that distance and yet allow our governments to hide their existence by weather balloons.

I cannot believe that highly advanced alien life form from God knows where will come here waisting energy and time to mutilate cows.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Nohup

Very convenient. The dog ate all the homework, huh? So now there are two things to prove: 1) the time travelers or aliens really exist, and 2) the government is hiding the evidence. While we're at it, why don't we add that the government is hiding it on orders from the Reptilians. Then we'll have even more to prove.


ah ok, but WHAT would you consider proof?

Here is the thing that bothers me about some skeptics.

I see people who make these statements all the time wanting proof, but we live in a day and age where proof is really nothing more than what you are willing to accept.

What makes makes anything proven?

Scientific data?

who says the scientist is trustworthy?

We assume because he is a scientist and he says this is how it is.. that it must be so.

Our government tells us this is how it is?

Because... they have NEVER lied to us? We know thats complete crap. Declassified documents have shown that they have lied to us.

Eye witness account?

Well unless you are the eye witness that will not matter and even then.. you do not believe because there are so many things that it could be right?

Their could be any top secret craft being tested that would explain it. At least in the skeptics mind.

Here is my proof. I have seen things that I cannot explain and by what I know of our recognized laws of physics. What I saw defied the laws of inertia. Mid 80's. I was a teen at the time and no I have never touched drugs so I was not ON anything. I spent alot of time star gazing when I was young.. back when you actually had time for such things. I saw something in the sky just sort of appear or so it seemed. It had many colors and was shaped I guess you could say like a comet. but it was hovering very high in the sky in front of me. I sat and just stared at it for the longest time before I decided to go get my mother. she came to see what all the fuss was about ..at the time I didn't really have any idea what it was it was just so different I wanted her to see it. She watched it with me for a few minutes before it decided to take off but not before it put on a little show for us. It flew right then switched course and flew back to the left and then back again to the right with so much speed it disappeared very fast.
This was not slow gradual movement when it took off it did all those things in the matter of a second or so. Just zip zip zip and it was gone.

That was my first sighting. I can understand why some people who have never seen a UFO will not understand how it effects those that have seen them.. but I will also say .. I have never seen the same thing twice. Which seems to me.. to be odd to say the least.

But back to proof. How do you prove something is from somewhere else?

Even a craft landed on the ground in front of you.. you could tell yourself its manmade. Unless you are a scientist and know all the metals indigenous to this planet you cannot run tests on it yourself. right?

I mean how do you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt something like this?

Is anyone's word ever really good enough? Are your eyes good enough?

can you believe what you see? We have holographic technology. Did we have it back in the mid 80's.. did the goverment take their high tech new toy out to some countryside and decide to mess with anyone that could see it?

Who knows. Anything is possible. I could go on, and on. but the fact is, for reasons I do not understand some people are prone to experiencing things that other people don't. OR that other people do not recognize without dismissing out of fear of what the implications could be if they considered it as anything but just a trick of light.

society has us pretty well trained to fear ridicule for admitting that we believe in things that cannot be explained.

This post is much longer than I intended.. but my point is.. in the age of CGI I doubt there is any proof that cannot be discounted if you try hard enough even if it was real to begin with.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
I do not understand why he says there are no UFOs? If there is a flying object you cannot identify (like a secret military project) - you just witnessed an UFO.
However about aliens - i can partially understand him - there are people who claim to know how many races are there, their history and such without any proof whatsoever. Books are published, money being made and yet no sensible explanations as for why aliens will come here from all that distance and yet allow our governments to hide their existence by weather balloons.

I cannot believe that highly advanced alien life form from God knows where will come here waisting energy and time to mutilate cows.


WASTING ENERGY??? You think they are burning gas or something to travel around to get here & to other planets? They are utilizing an energy system that accesses energy from space itself, which is NOT a vacum, & you have been lead to believe. The belief that God created life & knows all is a falasy as well, but I'm not goign to turn this into a religous debate. You have to understand that life is a naturally occuring phenomena of the universe, & there are plently of develloped civilizations that have figured out how the universe operates, & can then create devices that can travel at superluminal velocities. Granted, it's weird, but they need to eat or do their experiments or whatever, & when you see that there are perfect cuts & the blood is drained in not only cattle but cats.... do you have a cat? Check out www.earthfiles.com...

frankly, at this point, with millitary officials that can prove who they were, & who for mainly energy reasons are ready to put their life on the line to get the TRUTH out that ALIENS have been classified & studied, it REALLY bothers me that people are still saying crap like this.

I have to go now.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 06:15 PM
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Its funny how some (not all) pro-9/11 conspiracy types will claim other more paranormal conspiracies are bunk when a conspiracy like UFOs/ETs has multiple credible witnesses and government personnel attesting to its reality whereas 9/11 has quite little in comparison (other than videos which have been interpreted in every way possible just like UFO videos).

While I do think 9/11 was a government conspiracy, I would like others who only see 9/11 as a conspiracy to be a little less dismissive of others.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by NephraTari
ah ok, but WHAT would you consider proof?
What makes makes anything proven?
Their could be any top secret craft being tested that would explain it. At least in the skeptics mind.
Even a craft landed on the ground in front of you.. you could tell yourself its manmade.
I mean how do you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt something like this?
society has us pretty well trained to fear ridicule for admitting that we believe in things that cannot be explained.
This post is much longer than I intended but my point is in the age of CGI I doubt there is any proof that ca..


Uh hum... Well, there IS proof.

I would say that looking at the big picture, having an open mind to be able to even have a desire to look it up for yourself, will be proof to you. - For people to accept it as reality, the officials would have to come out & say it's true, there are frigging aliens abducting people, & they have figured out how they operate, & we could all not have to pay electricity nor Gas bills. - you think they will do that? I know they wonjt, because they have to slowly break down society to make # ass bad as possible, aware of a War that we cannot do anything about because we have no control over it. The reason why there is an increase in media coverage on the issue is conditioning for the staged alien invasion that will take place within our lifetimes, most probably.
The proof would be: Looking at all the data & making your own assessment on the issue:

1) The texas UFO mass sighting: A HUGE ship was seen by multiple people. - Even if it was made my the millitary or a black op, it would need a hangar bigger than the largest hangar on Earth.

2) There are NUMEROUS reports where abductees have reported that the 'Aliens' eyes were somehow stitched on, & there was a goddam zipper up the back! LOL... So I agree that we have to be skeptical, but with an open mind. - There are several incidences where some encounters are actually done by a black part of the governments, & there are all sorts of sick tests performed. The majority of abductions are done by REAL aliens, because there is nothing natural about time distortion, & all the other strange asociations with REAL aliens. Look at the Whitlety Strieber story! - Sure, he wrote a book, but he was already an author. but look at the part where his friends were in the cabbin with them, & they had witnessed things as well... When you have your son tell you something in the morning that he couldn't possibly know unless he had a visitation from a Grey or Small Blue man.

3) A CREDIBLE Doctor has removed an implant that was a somewhat 'alive' metal of an unknown element, & has removed implants from many other abductees...

4) In the 2001 disclosure Press conference video, there are two witnessess that report seeing & having their missiles go into a 'no go condition' (they became unlaunchable) - Sure, some will argue that it was caused by the enemy's secret high technology, but it that was the case; reverse engineered.

I mean, really... to prove to yourself after this, just close your eyes & imagine that if you were on a beach, every grain of sand would be a cluster of galaxies, containing solar systems, & if you know that life is a self-replicating molecular system that forms when conditions are favorable, one can eisily see that the universe must be teeming with life, even if the Drake equation is way off...

I agree with the person who said 'Who cares what Jason thinks about UFOs...' ;-) But it DOES matter, for when there are other truthers saying things like 'ALL Reptillian threads must be put into a seperate box, making it all look like it has been proven to be untrue, or when Jason says it's 'crap', well, that does nothing to help us be aware of the plan for a staged alien invasion/free energy.

Google Video Link

Relevant: www.disclosureproject.org...

[edit on 19-6-2008 by Time=Now]



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Time=Now

Originally posted by NephraTari

ah ok, but WHAT would you consider proof?

What makes makes anything proven?

Their could be any top secret craft being tested that would explain it. At least in the skeptics mind.
Even a craft landed on the ground in front of you.. you could tell yourself its manmade. ....
I mean how do you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt something like this?

society has us pretty well trained to fear ridicule for admitting that we believe in things that cannot be explained.
This post is much longer than I intended.. but my point is.. in the age of CGI I doubt there is any proof that ca....


Uh hum... Well, there IS proof.

I would say that looking at the big picture, having an open mind to be able to even have a desire to look it up for yourself, will be proof to you. - For people to accept it as reality, the officials would have to come out & say it's true, there are frigging aliens abducting people, & they have figured out how they operate, & we could all not have to pay electricity nor Gas bills. - you think they will do that?
Also, relevant to url=http://www.disclosureproject.org/cosmicdeception.htm]my argument[/url]

Yes but who are the "officials"? the government? nasa?

what makes their word more honest and viable than mine or any other witnesses?

Are we honestly saying we trust politicians word over our neighbors?

I wouldn't trust a politician with my dog, much less take their word on what they knew and when they knew it etc.


BTW you are preaching to the choir my friend. Preaching to the choir.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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Right, well, they go hand in hand mate! - They are both outright, blatent examples of how controlled & suppressed society is, because there IS tons of evidence re 9/11 that would stand up in a court of law, & we should be seeing George Bush in jail long ago, and there is just as much evidence about aliens.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by NephraTari
Why am I supposed to care what "Jason Bermas" says?
Is he suddenly the keeper of all knowledge in the universe and final word on the answers to all of lifes mysteries and questions?
I think I will continue to base what I know on what I have lived through personally and not what Jason Bermas says.


That is truly wonderfully amusing, but my point is; it's the mentality of most people, even in the truth movement, & it needs to change. - I was cut off on the Alex Jones show one time for talking about Reptillians, & it honestly made me feel very bad because I've been researching everything David Icke, Alex Jones & Steve Greer have said for a few years now non stop... I presented the info very well (I did have a problem with my VOIP, so mayby I wasn't cut off) but anyways, this situation is equivalent to people being judged & questioned for just suggesting that perhaps the Earth didn't revolve around the Sun, but just mayby, it was the complete other way around... I wonder why the elite had that lie going... What the hell was the point of that? Surely the Illuminati knew the Earth went around the Sun, but spoke nothing of it to the people , as many were demonized for saying otherwize...



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by NephraTari

Originally posted by Time=Now

Originally posted by NephraTari


- For people to accept it as reality, the officials would have to come out & say it's true, there are frigging aliens abducting people, & they have figured out how they operate, & we could all not have to pay electricity nor Gas bills. - you think they will do that?

Yes but who are the "officials"? the government? nasa?

what makes their word more honest and viable than mine or any other witnesses?

Are we honestly saying we trust politicians word over our neighbors?

I wouldn't trust a politician with my dog, much less take their word on what they knew and when they knew it etc.


BTW you are preaching to the choir my friend. Preaching to the choir.


Your quote was too large , please trim next time, LOL, just kidding ;-) (playing MOD) : You missed the point: If it was on the news everyday, (disclosureproject, eyewitness citizen reports) the average Joe & Jane (the masses) would be aware of this, but the media is controlled by the same Reptilian bloodline that are members of Bildergurg & Bohemian Grove.

And it's not a 'preach'; I'm simply stating that we all need to REALLY look into all angles of the true dynamics of our World by shedding the association of the word 'theory' with many of these true conspiracies. - By definition, they are characteistic of answers spawned by such questions as: Who built the pyramids??? Answers: (Theories).

I am a conspiracy realist, not a theorist, but I do have my theories sometimes. The thing is; when it comes down to if Aliens exist or not, I think it's actually not good for your credibility to say they dont, or that ther eis not proof, when there is actually tons of it... Ancient & contemporary, as the description of this board indicates ;-)

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posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by doctormcauley
Don't worry bro, he doesn't mean it.


Not worried at all, man



Jason just doesn't want the MSM to start suddenly paying attention to the Alex Jones show just because he covered a topic considered too abstract.


I mentioned I understand that. but still, not many peple are awake during Coast to coast, ( I actuially just found out about C2C a few years ago!!!! ME! only a few friggin years ago! - SO it's no wonder why Joe has no idea what the heck is going on!



He knows about chemtrails, but remember Bermas is trying to do his Very Best job at being a Professional Journalist, unbiased. (He tries :lol

I guess he just doesn't want a Soundbite to come out that could be used to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement. It seems like the Neocon Media would love to get their hands on The Alex Jones show talking about the existence of aliens, lizards and such


Actually, he HAS done it... One time he said; (sarcasticly) Perhaps there were Reptoids i n the buildings that brought them down.
But the past few years there is no mention of it. There is a 911 film that has David Icke in it after they say' well, why would theey do this, & how, emotionally? (I rip to HD every show)



- they are apolitical show and never even make it through all their news as the Government is just too crooked to keep up with these days... 24 worth hours of lies and high crimes condensed to 4 hours.

Well put!



The closest they come to ATS type material is the advanced weaponry and CERN, haaarp and weather mods etc etc... I like CTC am though. It's like ATS coming out of the radio


Love that! :p roll:

... As Ian would say: Okay, first time caller line: we have the next (replyer) up from (wherever); Next person to reply, you're on the... 'air', go ahead: :p
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posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge

I cannot believe that highly advanced alien life form from God knows where will come here waisting energy and time to mutilate cows.



Beleive it or not, (search on earthfiles.com ) for a story that cats are being drained of blood too... No matter how they are travelling here, they clearly are, ( look up : disclosureproject.org ) and they need to eat/use DNA or whatever.

- A bear doent crap in the woods to show you that he can; he does it because that's just the way it is.



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