posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 04:35 AM
I have to admit, if there were any religion I would choose to follow it would be Judaism. A simple matter of fact is that three of the main
religions rely on the torah. If I believed in the Abraham covenant I honestly would convert to Judaism.
To be clear of my intentions and point of view I like to reference my beliefs by saying: "I believe in Christ exemplified." In other words, I
believe in what Christ taught and preached. A message of purity in many ways, but I do not believe him to be the "son" of 'God'.
So, to the Bible thumpers out there, a few questions:
1) Is there any evidence other than scripture that corroborates this account?
2) Why will 'they' not allow "Abrahams" tomb to be investigated or studied?
Do you find this odd? (not allowing the tomb to be studied)
I believe this to be the biggest conspiracy, quite frankly, in history. If there is no covenant between Abraham and God there is no Judaism,
Christianity or Islam.
It seems strange to me that God (as told by humans), in the Bible, expects 'His' followers to believe an entire book that hinges on one story, that
took place thousands of years ago, to maintain a relationship.
It makes more sense to me to follow a less historical teaching method (like that of Buddhism) and concentrate more on the inner-workings of a
harmonious relationship with 'God' rather than specific historical data/ records or testimonies of how the first men came to be or who God chose to
be his 'people'.
Why include these parts into your message if you are God?
If you are God (the way 'he' is described in the Bible) then surely you would understand the complexities/ questions and hardships this would cause
through mis-understanding or mis-translation. (not to mention the serious amounts of bloodshed this little story has brought about)
Like alot of you, I was told while growing up to fear God. Well, I am proud to say I do not fear the God of the Bible. I am also proud to say I do
not know what God is. And even if by some weird chance if the human races' creator is some sort of extra terrestrial intelligence then I don't know
if "He" is a "He" or some sort of other alien gender. In other words this does not strike me as important in the larger scope of things.
I believe people are so wound up in wanting to know what or who God is and be so sure of thereselves they are willing to believe anything to
make that claim, even when there is no evidence. I don't see a big problem with that except that it has lead many generations into wars and serious
hardship. Now, please understand that I am not saying 'God' or the religion has lead people into wars or murder/ killing, but the people who
must think they understand what and who God is have lead themselves and continue to lead themselves down this treacherous path.
Again, to be clear I am completely willing to digress if someone could give one shred of evidence this covenant existed between God and Abraham.
edit to clarify and add:
One more thing I forgot to say here. Everything in physics, quantum physics and really anyone in the scientific community all pretty much agree on
one thing. That is logic. There is one overwhelming/ underlying premise to everything, and that is everything is guided by logic. In other
words everything seems to make sense. Some things may not be completely figured out yet, but so far the pieces to the puzzle keep lining up fairly
So, with deductive reasoning coming into play here, why would 'God' of the Bible (whom created everything that makes sense so far) up and change
this structure? Why would he create everything so logically, then up and change the plan by creating something so un-logical (that is the Torah
account of the bible) that it doesn't make sense when you break it down? This does not make sense to me.
[edit on 19-6-2008 by abelievingskeptic]