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Mafia - Freemasonry Promenant Arrests

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posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 10:29 AM
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So all the Grand Lodges chartered by the stuffy old English UGLE do not recognize the long tradition of European Grand Orient lodges simply because of their liberalism, and their willingness to dispense with the "Grand Architect of the Universe" abstraction? Europe is definitely an Un-Godly continent - socialist revolutions have been commonplace there since 1789 - but you'd think that Freemasonry (the great cosmopolitan bastion of the public sphere) would be more tolerant than that.




posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 12:59 PM
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None of the Mason wannabees have offered up any proof that they have even so much as walked thru the doors of a lodge? I can pretend to be a Mason too. It's easy look.
I am a 32 degree mason. The masons on this website are amoung the highest degree masons.
There is no such thing as a Highest degree in masonry.
My masonic family is a brotherhood and we look out for eachother and
do alot of good charity work but will not hesitate to harrass, intimidate, mame, injure, threaten, or kill any member who reveals our precious little secrets.
LOL. This is truely fun debenking these wannabe masons.
I mean really?
I forgot to mention that in addition to being amongst the highest degrees in freemasonry which there (paradoxically) is no such thing as a highest degreee,
I am also a Navy SE.a.l. on the weekends.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men

So all the Grand Lodges chartered by the stuffy old English UGLE do not recognize the long tradition of European Grand Orient lodges simply because of their liberalism, and their willingness to dispense with the "Grand Architect of the Universe" abstraction?


The problem here is that the Great Architect of the Universe is the foundation of Freemasonry. Remove the foundation, and the structure cannot stand.

Fraternal orders are free to admit atheists if they so desire, and we may wish them well...but their ceremonies do not constitute Freemasonry.


Europe is definitely an Un-Godly continent - socialist revolutions have been commonplace there since 1789 - but you'd think that Freemasonry (the great cosmopolitan bastion of the public sphere) would be more tolerant than that.


Freemasonry is tolerant inasmuch as it recognizes and respects the right on non-theistic organizations to exist and be protected by law. However, Freemasonry is a strictly theistic institution, and one cannot practice genuine Antient Masonry without understanding this.



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 01:19 PM
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Is there a reason you posted this on two threads word for word?



posted on Jun, 19 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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um then whats up with this under your avatar: ..."Diabolic Masonic Cabal Member"




[edit on 19-6-2008 by star in a jar]



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 12:16 AM
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I enjoy messing with the antis. The thought that there is some sort of diabolical masonic cabal is so hilarious to me, I just couldn't resist to use it as a title. Hey, if your going to be accused of being a member of a global cabal, the least you can do is use it for sarcasm.



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by cbass
I started a thread exposing the rotteness and evil that has become freemasonry.

My purpose is to provide yet another enlighting
story about the corruption the Masons have engaged in. I believe I have done such.




I'm sorry i just don't see it, what rotteness and evil have you exposed ? I read the op, followed the link, and read the article all i read was a story about people being arrested for mafia activity. The article said that one of the people arrested was a free mason, so how does that turn into " the rotteness and evil that has become freemasonary" ? I didn't see any thing in the article about every free mason being arrested, heck i didn't even see anything about the entire membership of one lodge being arrested.



So are you claiming that one member being arrested condemns the whole organization worldwide ? That would be like saying that because one man is a rapist that all men are rapists or because one man is a deadbeat dad, all men are. If we go by your reasoning then we would all be classified according to the actions of one person within whatever group we fall into. Are you sure you meant to post in this forum, because that doesn't sound much like denying ignorance to me ?



I believe that the only thing that you have provided us with is a story about ONE mason that was arrested for wrong doing. You certainly haven't provided me with anything remotely showing the corruption that all masons are engaged in, and it most certainly was not enlightening. If you can show proof of any type of corruption that ALL masons engage in, or heck i'll even settle for 2/3 rds of the masons, then that i will consider enlightening.



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 02:27 AM
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Theists and atheists are both still lokced into the dual illusion of the mind. There is only one! So therefore the interpretations of masons as theists means they arent in the know.

But of course its all symantics....Ive been to altered states and witnessed marvels way beyond any human. So anyone with secrets knows they are beyond humans in some secret society.

If the freemasons were trying to help the world from takeover of some rogue group with similar knowledge, they would open up their secrets to the public. THe truth shall set us Free!!!! If the masons dont know that, then they arent so sharp.

The 3rd enemy of man is Power. The ones who selfishly hold onto their knowledge and thus power are going to be destroyed by their 3rd enemy. Its all ego.

Love is far more important than knowledge/wisdom.



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 02:40 AM
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So do the masons know that the most selfish people give endlessly to others. Like all things selfishness and unselfishness is a circle.

By giving , you create a win win situation. People who hoard stuff and knowledge arent selfish, just dumb and dont know how to fill their body with light.

Hoarders will never free themselves from the chains of the lower realms.

The real secrets they are so hell bent on protecting is how to manipulate and control the populace. Those doing this, mason or not are going to be having more chains later.

Do they know that harming another harms yourself. WE are interconnected and negativity binds and entangles you with those people you despise so much and would prefer never see again. THe universe is so beautiful!!!

There ive given away some of my info...but i doubt any mason will share anything of theirs. All frats Ive seen are clique brainwashed. Cant tell others man...they arent one of us!!!

Of course we are....we are all brothers.



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 03:25 AM
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Hi Chass,

Doesn't really surprise me at all, Freemasonry runs much deeper than meets the eye! But most freemasons don't even see it or will never realize it.

Not that I have seen it all but I have seen enough.

When I get the time I'm throwing all my info together and will post it, those who felt I lied about being a freemason can confirm indeed I was.

I will also include my best friends account who left the lodge with me because I think it's important that there are two witnesses in my story not just one. They can verfiy that both of us were indeed Masons.

Kindest Regards!



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by ET_CONTACT
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Hi Chass,

Doesn't really surprise me at all, Freemasonry runs much deeper than meets the eye! But most freemasons don't even see it or will never realize it.

Not that I have seen it all but I have seen enough.

When I get the time I'm throwing all my info together and will post it, those who felt I lied about being a freemason can confirm indeed I was.

I will also include my best friends account who left the lodge with me because I think it's important that there are two witnesses in my story not just one. They can verfiy that both of us were indeed Masons.

Kindest Regards!


Ah! The worm turns! Pray tell, ET; your 'masonic' experiences happen to include issues with 'monkeys'? I thought your style of flash-no-substance seemed familiar. HDFACTORYCERTIF has socks. Whodda thunk it?



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 07:44 AM
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Fitzgibbon,

Yes well expected from you!

People like you are just friggin quick to judge and rude.

I think you should stick to your own posts and give me the benefit of the doubt unless you can prove me wrong?

Can you? Yes I thought so!



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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First off,
This Fitzgibbon character is No more than a Wannabe soldier who likes to spout off alot of non sensicall B.S. to try and de-rail topics. He should be dealt with as such. I am so tired of people pretending to be who they are not. Take off your holooween war costume, sit down, and have an honest debate.
Now then,
I would love to hear, and so would several others,
what you have experienced as a freemason.
Do not get suckered into lengthy off topic debates by wannaba masons
and wannabe soldierboys. I know it is hard but if you acknowlege these
people it only encourages their fatasys.



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by cbass
I would love to hear, and so would several others,
what you have experienced as a freemason.


Speak for yourself!

I really wish you hadn't said that.

The last thing we need here in the Secret Societies forum is MORE proselytizing from the Masons. They already control the conversation to begin with and now you want to hand them the ball? The less they get their way, the better.

Man o man, you're a sucker for punishment.



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men
The last thing we need here in the Secret Societies forum is MORE proselytizing from the Masons. They already control the conversation to begin with and now you want to hand them the ball? The less they get their way, the better.


The last thing we need in this forum is even MORE propagandizing from the anti-masons. They already get away with just about everything from insulting millions of people to outlandish accusations without any proof. Although so far every one of them has been insultingly easy to defeat, there are some almost good ones who post. Sadly, it seems the best of them have some tragic personality flaw, as if this were a greek play. The best ones all suffer from amazing amounts of hubris and the absolute inability to accept the opinion of anyone else. Until they can get over these flaws, the less they get their way, the better.

Oh shucks, I see HDFACTORY is back now trying to "expose" us again as ET. Goody! This should be fun.

[edit on 20-6-2008 by ALightinDarkness]



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by cbass
None of the Mason wannabees have offered up any proof that they have even so much as walked thru the doors of a lodge? I can pretend to be a Mason too. It's easy look.
I am a 32 degree mason. The masons on this website are amoung the highest degree masons.
There is no such thing as a Highest degree in masonry.
My masonic family is a brotherhood and we look out for eachother and
do alot of good charity work but will not hesitate to harrass, intimidate, mame, injure, threaten, or kill any member who reveals our precious little secrets.
LOL. This is truely fun debenking these wannabe masons.
I mean really?
I forgot to mention that in addition to being amongst the highest degrees in freemasonry which there (paradoxically) is no such thing as a highest degreee,
I am also a Navy SE.a.l. on the weekends.


I'm really curious about this post. I myself am not a Mason but my Grandfather is, he will answer any and all questions I have with no threats should I tell anyone.

In *fact* there was a book written about it, which I'll be buggered if I could remember what it was called... its at home somewhere (I'm at work)

With regards to the Masons on the site, maybe they are, maybe they are not, everyone who joins the web says they're something they're not



posted on Jun, 20 2008 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by cbass
I would love to hear, and so would several others,
what you have experienced as a freemason.


I have experienced many Brothers who have gone out of their way to assist other members of our lodge from anything such as helping them to repair their garages, grocery shopping, accompaynig them to weekly services and taking them to lodge if they are no longer able to operate their own vehicles.

I would expect any human being to assist their fellowman in such mundane activities if they were so able to perform. It is incumbant upon every human being, but particularly upon Masons, to aide, support and protect one another.

[edit on 20-6-2008 by AugustusMasonicus]



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:26 AM
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So it sounds like you are saying the masons help eachother with anything
they are capeable of helping with. Weather it be getting a job, lending a helping hand, place to stay, food if you are hungry, a ride if you need it,etc. Am I correct? If so I'm in.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 02:24 AM
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If its that surprising that people in the same group help each other out where possible, I suggest you need to get out more and be social. Its something people in all groups do - people are more likely to help those they know then those they don't know on a personal level, though with freemasonry nearly all of the charity is focused outside the members.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by cbass
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 


So it sounds like you are saying the masons help eachother with anything
they are capeable of helping with. Weather it be getting a job, lending a helping hand, place to stay, food if you are hungry, a ride if you need it,etc. Am I correct? If so I'm in.


Don't worry - masons help non-masons as well, so you don't need to join if that's your sole motivation.



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