Grounding too harsh, court tells dad

Has anyone thought about the most important part. She was posting "inapropriate" pictures of herself on the internet.

If she (god forbid) got molested by some internet perv, I wonder who would get blamed? Of course the parents.

But, now, if she does, I hope the father sues the court to high heaven.

I swear I live in Bizzaro world anymore.

HA!

If that crap happened in my house it would be bye-bye to teh internets for the kid.

Like that line from the Incubus song Nice to Know You - "Nice to know you..goodbye!"

What friggin' business of the courts is it how parents discipline their kids (so long as there's no abuse going on)?

The world is going absolutely mad.

I think the issue no one has brought up yet is that clearly this girl's mother is supporting and encouraging this court case to get back at her ex-husband. IMO another example of family courts siding with mothers over fathers at all costs. Any idiot could see the father was in the right.

This may sound harsh, and I'm sure I will catch an entire bucketload of crap for it, but I say.........


Let her use the internet all she wants. Let her send all of the naked pics she wants.

Let her go get raped.

Then and only then will this precious little snowflake learn an important lesson.

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Sadly I do not see how it can go any other way. That child will never respect of listen to the father again.

Eventually the father will be jailed for neglect when the child goes too far and the court blames him. The court will never acknowledge their own userpation of the parental role and it's permanent destruction of the child parent relationship. There is no one who can hold them responsible, as they can the parent.

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Exactly.

Sometimes tough love is needed, and this is obviously one of those cases.

If the little skank wants to go running to the court because she screwed up and got grounded, she will never learn the lesson she would if she was brutally raped.

At that point, she will look back, realize what a fool she was, and say to herself " I really should have listened to dad".

Originally posted by ValhallasValkyrie
Father should have tore her butt up every time she broke a house rule.. perhaps then it would not have gotten to the point the child took him to court.

I think I've been looking at "inappropiate" sites a bit too much as well.

"Tearing someone's butt up" gives me a whole other idea than spanking till it's hot-red (at least I think that's what you meant to say?)

lmao, maybe I should shut down my internetz.


@ Poster above: I don't think that rape is the only solution, severe punishment and/or intimidation might work as well.

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Its time for the judge to be relieved of his duty. He has over stepped his bounds! I would retake this to court and at the same time do all I can to get him relieved of his duty!

How did this girl get this far? What she got a court lawyer and went to court without her daddy knowing? Wouldn’t he had to take her there? Why would he allow her to do this court thing in the first place? Weird.

just my opinion - but now the spoilt brat has gone to live with its mother - and the court has removed his parental control

i belive its time for dad to petition the court to be absolved of ALL responsibility for the child

starting with financial

that will get thier attention fast

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She has her own court appointed lawyer to deal with the 10year custody battle . Guess who's going to get the brat..

She has learnt real well from her parents over the last 10 years.

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Please for the sake of children, don't have any...let her do all those things?
That is not tough love, that is stupidity. You mean if she was your daughter and let us say she got raped you would go about your life normally and just say that is a life's lesson?

If parents do not have authority over their children then who does? How do we set limits and boundaries without being taken to court?

The impact this will have is catastrophic. More children will end up going to jail because they do not listen and it will cost the taxpayers more money. This judge is stupid, negligent and should be removed immediately!

Aha having seen the whole article things start to make sense. What we have here is the courts backing up the mother against the father. It happens all the time. Mothers are good, fathers are bad.

I don't need to know exactly what is going on as I see this situation all the time. The mother is a vindictive b.... and the daughter will be very very sorry and very very unhappy in 6 months time when all she has to care for her is a mother who doesn't.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
just my opinion - but now the spoilt brat has gone to live with its mother - and the court has removed his parental control

i belive its time for dad to petition the court to be absolved of ALL responsibility for the child

starting with financial

that will get thier attention fast

Uhhh huh. Thats what i'd do if i was in his shoes.

Stop all financial payments and absolve myself of legal responsibility..

Hope that little madam gets a good dose of reality real hard real fast.

Completely absurd...

The world is going to hell in a handbasket...

Anyways, not my problem though, ain't no way in hell im ever getting married or having brats running around costing me a fortune...

I'm after the good life thanks...

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
just my opinion - but now the spoilt brat has gone to live with its mother - and the court has removed his parental control

i belive its time for dad to petition the court to be absolved of ALL responsibility for the child

I couldn't agree with you more. People are always complaining about deadbeat dads, but there are a lot of men trying to be good fathers and they aren't alowed to be because of the courts. The father needs to sue that damn judge for even hearing the case, it should've been thrown out of court.



That's why kids are so out of control today the courts say you can't spank em, you can't yell at em and now you can't ground em. Just how do they expect parents to discipline their children anymore, but they're quick to try to charge the parents when the kid does something wrong.



Since the judge wants to take away his right to discipline his child, then maybe he should start his own case and have the judge made the legal guardian of the kid. Let the judge try and keep her in line. Something really needs to be done about the crap they let these kids get away with these days.

If my child was acting this uncontrollable, I would roll him up to the nearest foster home, drop him off, and tell 'em "I can't control him... Hell he took me to court for grounding him... If I can't control him, and the state wants to tell me how to... Then you just do the damn job 24/7."

Then that $150,000 college fund... Thats what I call Hawaii money...


Coven

This child is on very thin, dangerous ice.

She has learned to play her parents against each other, and she has posted "inappropriate" pictures of herself on the net.

Her mother made the wrong decision by not backing the father's decision.

The judge is just a total airhead. He has no moral authority in cases like this.

Twelve years old.:shk:

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That mother should be ashamed of herself! Firstly, she obviously set the example that her daughter was following so does the mother also post "inappropriate" pictures of herself on the internet? If not, how can she condone her 12 YEAR OLD daughter doing that? Secondly, due to the lengthy custody battle, her daughter has learned to solve her problems in a Court of Law instead of through honest and open communication. Thirdly, this smacks of the mother doing this out of spite - how childish!
I agree that the Courts are generally too lenient on mothers and punish the father's too easily. For example, my brother's ex-wife was a complete slag and he found out (too late) that she was bedding all and sundry in the community. He also discovered, on popping home during lunchtime one day, that his wife was leaving their 3 month old daughter alone at home all day and going out with her friends! Needless to say, he instituted divorce proceedings and claimed custody of the child (as the mother was obviously not fit to be a mother). After years of fighting in the Courts, he ended up bankrupt and without his daughter. The happy ending to this story is that, by the time his daughter was 14 years old, she asked to live with him as she was embarrassed by her mother's behaviour. My brother and his daughter are now extremely happy and have a wonderful relationship. The mother is now a drug addict and we can all guess what she's doing to earn money for her habit!

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I think teens, boys especially, should be able to browse a little internet porn if they feel the need.

Yeah, I completely agree here.

I was a teenage boy - once! Every teenage boy I knew, at some stage, dug though dad's porno magazines in the attic for a look at some pages. Would you rather your kids searching through some softer porn on the internet in the safety of their own home, or would you rather them trying to access who-knows-what somewhere else?

At least on your home computer, you can monitor the sites they visit and communicate with them. Wait, I see a problem with that: The word 'communication' - some parents don't know what it means or how to use it with their children.

Just for clarification. My son wasn't in trouble for being curious/veiwing porn (you're right, it's a normal part of any teen boys life) but with the pop-up's the sites brought with it. I have two younger children who got an eye full when trying to visit NickJr.

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Heres the problem with your theory and that is who usually gets blamed. The parents. When kids do wrong or something happens to them who is blamed the parents. This is disgusting and it is a big problem of what is wrong with society today. I wouldnt take her back either. State if you want to legislate how I raise my daughter then you raise her.

Also isnt it amazing these muslim fathers in Canada can KILL their daughters and get away with it but no no no you cant ground them....The one girl in Canada who was dating a white boy her father killed her for religious reasons and I think they didnt charge him...I could be wrong.

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