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Why is Jeff Rense so ridiculed on ATS ?

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posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 01:28 AM
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I recently joined up with Jeff Rense's website to access his radio show archives expecting to hear a deranged crazed madman but sadly all i heard was a guy speaking the truth. After listening to Coast 2 Coast for years i can say without a single doubt the only difference between Coast and Jeff Rense's radio show is he asks the "tuff" questions Coast never does, particular in regards to Israel. I have never heard Jeff Rense EVER make a racist Jewish comment only harsh criticisms on Israeli policies, so is this the ONLY reason people ridicule Jeff Rense ?.




posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 02:00 AM
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Silly goyim, don't you know that's all that is needed to bring the mighty zionist beast down on you like a ton of mazta balls on your head?
Critisizing Israel means you are a Holocaust denying, anti-semetic, terrorist. Now beg for forgiveness, before Chertoff sends some nice gentlemen in suits to re-educate you...



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 08:18 AM
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Why is ABC, CBC, CBS,CNN, CTV, NBC, and all the mainstream newsprint so ridiculed in the world?



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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I have only seen everything he says get quickly dismissed. Can you list some of the "Truth" that he has said? I mean can you list the claims that people considered outlandish that turned out to be true?



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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In the years here on ATS there were some things posted from the rense.com site that turned out to be true. And of course there were other things posted on rense that were hoaxes or false. But people just dismiss the whole site based on those. The whole site. That means they're either too lazy to find out if something is true or not, are not denying ignorance, or are doing it (debunking anything from rense.com) just to fit in with the crowd.

But anyway, I had good memories of Jeff Rense back in the day when he had the tv show "Sightings".



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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I don't listen to Rense's radio program, but I do visit his website for the articles it links to on a daily basis and I've notice a growing anti-muslim tone to the site. Or perhaps I just wasn't paying attention earlier.

Anyway, it seems that the Rense website is now going after muslims a lot despite the fact that the Rense website continually posts stories about 9/11 being a government conspiracy. If you feel that this is the case, why would you want to bash muslims when they are being framed and murdered for a crime they did not commit?



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 07:22 PM
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I think it's because he's such a Jew hater



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by whiskeyswiller
I think it's because he's such a Jew hater


That was a given that has never changed since I've read the articles on rense.com. Maybe Jeff Rense wants to be an equal opportunity offender now? It just seems odd, to me anyway, for the Rense.com website to suddenly go after a group he previously left alone.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:23 AM
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i think its more important to ignore opinion and judge for yourself the validity of any source of information,for there are many a mind with a biased agenda who seek to discredit and and smear correct information and others who promote incorrect information.

controling opinion and perception has become the battleground of the modern age,to control perception is to control action.

i find rense to convey a vital source of information and that is morgellons nanobots and chemtrails,i suspect thats the reason why its smeared.

[edit on 11-10-2008 by welivefortheson]



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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i enjoy rense and visit his site daily to read up on things

i also really get a kick out of the main pictures that regularly change

and for those who say he is antisemetic all i can say is, take a good look at Israel and what they are doing, the entire reason for "terrorism" and the middle east hattred for the U.S. and its allies is because we without a doubt support Israel, which i personally think we should stop doing



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:35 AM
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Because they're accused of having a liberal bias, much like the fox news network is accused of having a conservative bias.

The problem is I guess that the guy is attacking the nation for no apparent reason other than the fact that one could surmise that he hates Jews.

There is a reason people like this are treated with disrespect in the media.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:37 AM
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When I'm seeking varied and current news items, I turn to Rense.com

I also go to Truth Seeker for the same reason


When I want entertainment and debate, I come to ATS


ATS has cornered the market on pushing the 'alien/UFO' agenda. Sometimes I wonder if that's the real reason for ATS' existence

ATS seems to capture the pre-teens and teens, quite often



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:53 AM
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Funny how all the major media outlets for alternative news are attacked. Alex Jones, Rense, Icke, etc are all attacked because they're antisemites.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:29 AM
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His site has always made me feel a bit icky simply for some of the ads that are on it. I don't think I've even ever made it as far as his content.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 05:43 AM
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Well, I think his site is a bit rubbish because of his anti-Gore bias during the 2000 election race. At the time, I wrote in (to rense.com) to complain about this. Whoever it was that replied wrote back "don't worry! If Bush gets elected, he'll get what he deserves."

...but, in my opinion, they've never given Bush what he deserves.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 05:45 AM
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Really? I've never seen anything anti-semetic on Alex Jone's website.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by 1011010110
 


Really? I've never seen anything anti-semetic on Alex Jone's website.




screwloosechange.blogspot.com...


www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 07:46 AM
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I don't know anything about Jeff Rense and I don't recall having seen that much that is negative about him personally.

What gets a lot of flak on this site is the use of Rense.com as a source for credible information.

Rense.com doesn't confirm anything and people just post what they want with no responsibility to the truth.

That's fine in terms of free speech, but as a source on ATS, it's inadequate and can leave a poster with egg on his face.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by 1011010110
Funny how all the major media outlets for alternative news are attacked. Alex Jones, Rense, Icke, etc are all attacked because they're antisemites.


there is a VAST difference between anti semitism and being critical of a nations policies and actions.

somehow criticism of isreal has and is being misconstrewed as criticism of judiasm,where did this occur?,i believe its intentional,a propaganda coup upon the masses.

if the same logic were to be applied,being critical of the monarchy of nepal makes you anti buddhist.

the problem is that the power structures in isreal for some reason have been hijacked to promote a zionist agenda,that the people of judea- because it says so in the torah, are entilted to most of the middle east,thus the other people living in free lands are dehumanised squatters,in the way of the land of zion.
many such other beliefs are perpitrated by elements of the power structures.........it makes me suspiscious that in key countries in which religious conflict would be nescecary in order for project bluebeam to bloom,religious extemists have somehow had thier agenda served since the late 1940's.

infiltration folks.

[edit on 11-10-2008 by welivefortheson]



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Over the years, I've seen way too much dubious "information" presented on Rense's site without a lot of critical assessment. Not just the Zionist stuff, but a lot of different stuff, alternative medicine, UFOs, among others.

Around here, if somebody presents something, we have a chance to kind of kick it around a little bit to see if there's anything to it than just some odd story or nutty point of view. As a result, we get a generally fairer and more balanced exploration of the topic. At least that's the theory.

On Rense's site, nobody is offering any alternate opinion. You don't have to go along with what's on his site, of course. But if you actually like to check out your pots in a little more detail to see if there might be some cracks in it somewhere, it's not necessarily the best place to get them.


[edit on 11-10-2008 by Nohup]



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