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Originally posted by FredT
Originally posted by Arc Angel
1.) The United States Economy surpasses Russian Economy by more than 10 fold in terms of GDP.
Does that really matter in a war?
2.) 3.7% of our GDP goes to our defense budget, yet our defense budget is SO HUGE if you put all of the world's military budgets together you'd only match it. And that's only using 3.7% of our Economy, during WW2 we were using 30% of our GDP to fund the war effort.
Yes we do spend more than anybody else and we have alot of ability to project power but we lack the ability to invade Russia or China on any meaningfull scale
4.) The US Power Projection Cababilities are unmatched. 11 Carrier battlegroups (Russia, by the way, only has 1 Aircraft carrier which is old. We have 22 Aircraft carriers, 11 of them nucleared powered and containing the most sophysicated weapon systems known to man).
Really at last count the US had a total of 11 carrier strike groups not 22. Several are in or entering overhaul status so not all 11 are avalible at every time. Im not sure where you got you number of 22 but since WWII no navy has fielded that many carrier at one time
5.) "What about if they nuke us?" We shot down, with a single destroyer, a sattelite from outer #ing space! Trust me, no missiles are getting through our defense systems. We have missiles designed to go after other missiles and blow them up,
Given the number of interceptors at Ft. Greely and at Vandenberg, given the current operational plan we can shoot down 5-6 missiles Most scenarios envision 2 missiles shot at each in bound as the missiles would not have the cross range speed needed to fire one at a time in the event of a miss. As impressive as the satelite shootdown was the plans are for 15 destroyers will have the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 required for ballistic missile intercepts. My understanding is each of those destroyers (either Tico or Arleigh Burke) will have 20-30 oeprationa RIM-161 each. assuming that each ship is out to sea and every ABM works with 100% accuracy its still not enough to intercept every Russian ICBM. You also understand I assume that the sea based BMD works in the midcourse ascent phase so they would have to be foreward deployed to be effective.
As far as laser weaponry, You or I cannot speculate but have to deal with the hear and now
6.) "What if they built up their #'s then declared war?" Well, we have Apaches that can single handedly take out an entire tank column.
Hmmm the Apaches combat record being foreward deployed was less than stellar in Iraq, Im not sure how well they would fare against a combined arms foe at all. yes we have all sorts of fun toys but the Russians have plenty of counters avalible to them too. Yes thier navy is a shadow of its former self, and its doubtfull htey can project power its enough to defend thier coast line and front live subs have gotten quieter.
Anyone who disagrees is wrong.
You may want to put down that clancy book and do some real research before you post again. :shk:
Originally posted by Arc Angel
Economy matters a big deal in war. W/o Economy, you can have no logistical support. W/o logistics, your Army is doomed to fail. There's alot more to war then just an Army, war isn't a Command and Conquer game. As for the Apaches, during Desert Storm we flew in columns of those things to take out tank columns and such. This tactic was highly successful.
Originally posted by Rook1545
Originally posted by Arc Angel
Economy matters a big deal in war. W/o Economy, you can have no logistical support. W/o logistics, your Army is doomed to fail. There's alot more to war then just an Army, war isn't a Command and Conquer game. As for the Apaches, during Desert Storm we flew in columns of those things to take out tank columns and such. This tactic was highly successful.
I already mentioned this to you but I will mention it again. If there were to be a war, you would have no economy. China for sure, and parts of Europe would pull the plug on it. Your Apaches are more than useless if you can't afford the gas to get them off the ground.