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Having Served in the United States Navy, when i got out i felt a sense of pride that i had done my duty to Family, God and Country, but after reading this, I'm left with a sense of Sorrow and Emptiness.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by daddyroo45
Being a yankee, I grew up making fun of "them good ol' boys" down South "who think the war never ended." Well, little did I know that it hadn't.
But as I talked about in my piece, the idea of secession never was exclusive to the South in the history of our nation. That just happens to be where the line was finally drawn in the big showdown. If it were to happen again, I truly don't think that the lines will be drawn as "easily."
Another mistake that people make, northerners in particular I think, is that the Civil War was fought to free the slaves. It certainly was not, as is evident once you scratch the surface of school-taught history a little bit. It was all about state's rights, and self-determination. Even if the South had won, the institution of slavery was already on the way out. In fact, I would be so bold as to speculate that if the South had won, a proper assimiliation might have occured, and that the blacks would not have had to wait a century for their Civil Rights.
Originally posted by daddyroo45
Jack reading your post makes my blood boil,and causes me a deep sadness.Being born in the south,we were taught in school about the "reconstruction" over 800,000 acres of land were confiscated by the union in the state of Tennessee alone.Men who had served in the confederate army were never allowed to vote again in any election.At one point the state legislature was held at gun point in Nashville,so they could be assured of the "proper"vote.
Sounds like martial law to me.
What really gets my goat,are the people who when they hear these things accuse us of sour grape syndrome. We have never had the chance to live in a truly free country have we?
Outside View of the Republic
With this in mind after the War of Independence it was shown that many who sided with the British and the German interests still resided in the United States. Blood runs deeper then water. I propose that a long term undermining of the United States of America began moments after the documents were sighed in Paris. Both German interests as well as British interests have propelled us to where we are now. Namely an Empire; struggling to hold onto world power while we crumbled from within as Rome had two thousand years ago.
1) why do we still have habeus corpus?
2) if we are truly under martial law what is the purpose?
In trying to answer this myself... maybe it is possibly a conditioning to stay under the thumb? To not rebel?
3) why do we still enjoy the freedom of elected officials? (now I agree there certainly is room for much argument about whether or not these officials represent the people whom they are supposedly elected by)
But we do have representation in Congress. Why do we still have this? Why not strip us entirely?
Where in everyday life do we see the inhibiting of our rights that are self-evident?
...What other law inhibits our rights as free individuals?
But, there are many who become vastly wealthy through their own actions/ work every year. These people enjoy the same access as those who conspire for our demise, supposedly.