reply to post by Anonymous ATS
Good Point, and that’s what I was trying to explain, its all relative. If a black hole is coming towards you...lets think ok now the milky way is
currently being pulled toward the cluster of Virgo.
There does seem to be good evidence that the centre of our galaxy contains a black hole.
So if you observed the black hole coming to you from a place within the constellation of Virgo you would then say relatively that in fact the black
hole or the "dark" part is at a speed of 600,000 M/S so dark from "that" point of view of the observer in Virgo, that Relative position is
But as you state if you were actually on the event horizon of the black hole indeed dark would have a different velocity. Now this is where I think
most confusion comes in. TIME is relative to Gravity (special relativity etc) and velocity is measured using time.
Now the observer in andromeda if theorising, they are say affected by modest gravity effects on time/space say as on the earth, would as said see the
velocity of dark in the black hole as 600,000 M/S but to the observer on the black hole Time nearly stops so velocity from that point of view would
seem soooooo slow sooo ever soo slow, but from outside seems soo fast as stated even the light cant escape the dark sucking it in.
Its all about a few things. which are all relative.
What you are measuring e.g. the spaceship thingy in my first post or actual dark
Where you measure it from.
What’s happening to time in that point of observation because of the gravitational affects.
Its something that cant be stated either way because each time you measure it, it then changes due the above factors.
Also in recent experiments esp. regards the Einstein Bose equations light has in today’s world been slowed down to slower than a modern car!, its
constant like the dark has been changed due to the relative factors involved, environment that the light travels in and such like.
as stated though in my first post "dark" does not exist anyhow its nothing has no start and finishing point so you cant measure it, until you can
show me where the "dark" is or what it is! But if you play around with relativity a bit as above its interesting.
Dovada research reference Library
The Great Attractor, in the direction of the Centaurus constellation, attracts a river of galaxies which includes Milky way and the Local Group,
the Virgo cluster, etc..., at the speed of about 600,000 m/sec.
Light, which normally travels the 240,000 miles from the Moon to Earth in less than two seconds, has been slowed to the speed of a minivan in
rush-hour traffic -- 38 miles an hour.
[edit on 18-6-2008 by MischeviousElf]