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Barack Obama will declare Sharia Law in the United States if elected.

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posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_

Originally posted by PullThePin
The goal of Islam is to become the only religion worldwide. The Koran commands followers to kill and terrorize any infidels. Any follower of Islam who says otherwise is lying.

Not true.


Yes it is. Please tell me why it is not true if you really believe that.




posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by just great

Originally posted by PullThePin
I am not religious, what is so hateful about saying the truth?


This man is a patriot... As long as you are right you can kill whatever to save good people!!! When we elect Mccain those horrible people will all pay some more!
100 years if needs be, all of em crispy frittered if need be, America will Prevail!!!
Down with satan

And that's what some crazy terrorists are saying about you americans hahaha.

Man you are so ironic, look in the mirror!! you probably have a bomb strapped to yourself!



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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These are some very interesting times, one must wade through the muck and mire to find the truth these days. But "seek and ye shall find"
Go to theuniversalseduction.com...
scool down to 13/June 2008 to more family pics of "possible new first family".
And please everyone wake up! your president, past, present and futher can do anything they want. Google the name Cromley and find this one yourself.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by PullThePin

Originally posted by _Phoenix_

Originally posted by PullThePin
The goal of Islam is to become the only religion worldwide. The Koran commands followers to kill and terrorize any infidels. Any follower of Islam who says otherwise is lying.

Not true.


Yes it is. Please tell me why it is not true if you really believe that.

I'm gonna make this quick, because I HATE these religious threads.

[Quran 60:8]"GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable."

[Quran 8:61]"If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient."


[Quran 4:90]"...... Therefore, if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them."

[Quran 5:32] "......, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. .............."

" GOD advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed.(16:90)

(2:195) You shall spend in the cause of GOD; do not throw yourselves with your own hands into destruction. You shall be charitable; GOD loves the charitable.

(7:199) You shall resort to pardon, advocate tolerance, and disregard the ignorant.

(4:29) O you who believe, do not consume each others' properties illicitly - only mutually acceptable transactions are permitted. You shall not kill yourselves. GOD is Merciful towards you.
(4:30) Anyone who commits these transgressions, maliciously and deliberately, we will condemn him to Hell. This is easy for GOD to do.

Oh oh don't kill yourself! Oh wait that's what terrorists do? hey wait? they are not muslims then!!! Don't confuse CRAZY terrorists with 1 billion muslims.

"Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. Do you want to force the people to become believers." 10:99.

Why would muslims force people to become muslims, when god says in the quran that god himself could do it if that is what he wanted!!


[60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.

[60:9] GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.




Now let's just get along.

Peace.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:45 PM
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Boy. I understand that you have a right to your opinion but that cannot happen in the US. We have what is called a seperation of Church and State. Therefore, it cannot happen. Perhaps in your dreams.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:01 PM
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Jimmyx, U my dear friend need to enlighten your being . The plans have long been made and layed.
Any President, past present and future, can and will do what ever he wants.
Go back and do more research.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by hal2001
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Jimmyx, U my dear friend need to enlighten your being . The plans have long been made and layed.
Any President, past present and future, can and will do what ever he wants.
Go back and do more research.


uh.... Hal, right back at ya big guy.


sheesh....



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:09 PM
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Verse 9:123 - "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.".

Also

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

[edit on 17-6-2008 by PullThePin]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by PullThePin
Verse 9:123 - "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.".

Also

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

[edit on 17-6-2008 by PullThePin]


You do realize the Christian God, Jewish God, and Muslim God are all the same god right? So when you are in church praying to God, you are Praying to Allah and Yahweh.

Fighting for Allah's cause does not necessarily mean with a sword or gun. Once you see it like that, it means to spread the word of God, stand firm against those who would denounce him.

Fighting the opposition to Allah, is exactly what Christian "missionaries" do. They go out and spread the word of god. They use their word of God to fight the tribal rituals, and bring those people around to their God, or, Allah.

This whole thing has NOTHING to do with Muslims fighting Jews or Christians, since they worship Allah, this has to do with those who denounce God and refuse to worship him. Kind of like what the Christians used to do in the Inquisition.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by PullThePin
Verse 9:123 - "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.".

Also

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

[edit on 17-6-2008 by PullThePin]


You see... We must kill them, this man quotes their evil book... Praising Allen is like talking to the devil himself. I heard their stinky to and my cousin who was in Irack says they sleep under their beds??? These people are backwards!!!



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by PullThePin

Also

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”



More accurate translation.
[9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[9:6] And if anyone of the Mushrikûn (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allâh (the Qur'ân), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not.

These quotes are part of the story, it is about the time of war in the past with people who do not want peace with muslims.


If I take only a sentence out of a whole story I can make make it sound like anything. For example in a story book " Jack stabs tony in the back, causing tony to fall to his death" Now jack sounds like a bad man! Jack sounds like he kills a man in cold blood, when in reality he was protecting his son from being killed by the crazy man.

Now one would have to study the whole quran and history to have better understanding of all this.

Terrorists like to brainwash people into being terrorists by using these quotes you have shown, without understanding the real meaning behind the quotes. They have not studied the whole quran, and only want to spread hatred, they do not understand where these quotes are coming from. But yet they kill themselves over it. Ignorance?? haha

Muslims cannot force religion onto others, they cannot kill others or themselves, the quran says god loves those who are peacefull to others. God does not like aggressors.



[edit on 17-6-2008 by _Phoenix_]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:38 PM
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Gotta love Monty Python. That scene is a classic.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by just great


You see... We must kill them, this man quotes their evil book... Praising Allen is like talking to the devil himself. I heard their stinky to and my cousin who was in Irack says they sleep under their beds??? These people are backwards!!!

LOL they probably sleep under their beds because they are afraid of americans bombing them at night!

I think you "might" be the one who is backwards. It's quite easy to prove, simply look at your barbaric comments.


Originally posted by just great

Amen,,, I say we burn um all... I say we Nuke um to hell , the rapture will come and we will be transported to a better place!!! PTL

All those Arabicans do is lie and kill, you can't trust a single one of em,,, anyways JESUS is the lord



Originally posted by just great
This man is a patriot... As long as you are right you can kill whatever to save good people!!! When we elect Mccain those horrible people will all pay some more!
100 years if needs be, all of em crispy frittered if need be, America will Prevail!!!
Down with satan


I think you need to stop this hatred. Stop generalizing, stop the ignorance. Your becoming like the terrorists you hate.

Peace.

[edit on 17-6-2008 by _Phoenix_]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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Sheeesh........
Hals a Girl



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by hal2001
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Sheeesh........
Hals a Girl



huh ok? keep up the meaningless posts



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:19 PM
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Pertinent to this discussion is an article I recently read.....

The Rebellion Within: An Al Qaeda Mastermind Questions Violence, Wright, L., The New Yorker, June 2, 2008.

I'm not going to offer any opinion or editorial about the article. I'm just offering some other resource for staying informed.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_

Originally posted by just great


You see... We must kill them, this man quotes their evil book... Praising Allen is like talking to the devil himself. I heard their stinky to and my cousin who was in Irack says they sleep under their beds??? These people are backwards!!!

LOL they probably sleep under their beds because they are afraid of americans bombing them at night!

I think you "might" be the one who is backwards. It's quite easy to prove, simply look at your barbaric comments.


Originally posted by just great

Amen,,, I say we burn um all... I say we Nuke um to hell , the rapture will come and we will be transported to a better place!!! PTL

All those Arabicans do is lie and kill, you can't trust a single one of em,,, anyways JESUS is the lord


You just hate America's freedom



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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OK I waited to verify this with my wife before making the statement myself (she is from France, where she lived out the first 21 years of her life, she has been in the USA for 8 years now).

Your claim that France has somehow been 'taken over' by Muslim / Islamic ideology and dogma is completely false.

They have made no impact on the policy of France that effects the rights and freedoms of other citizens. They have established no control over the government.

They do try, generally unsuccessfully, to gain the right to wear their berkas (head dresses I think that is what they are called) in schools and other things like that, but nothing that forces Muslim / Islamic traditions on the non-Muslim / Islamic people of France.

Maybe this is different in the UK, I hear a lot of people here on ATS make the claim, but I have yet to see anything that supports this idea. UK brothers and sisters what is up with this claim?



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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Meaningless posts????? This Thread is about Barack H. Obama, and his best layed plans for our United States.
Back at you big guy????? this was your dumb$%@ Post to my reply to someone else

Go to theuniversalseduction.com...
scroll down to 13/June 2008 More family pictures of possible new first family
And order the books and learn something to talk about.
Good luck "DUDE"



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by hal2001
reply to post by bknapple32
 


Meaningless posts????? This Thread is about Barack H. Obama, and his best layed plans for our United States.
Back at you big guy????? this was your dumb$%@ Post to my reply to someone else

Go to theuniversalseduction.com...
scroll down to 13/June 2008 More family pictures of possible new first family
And order the books and learn something to talk about.
Good luck "DUDE"


once again youve managed to add nothing to the conversation. i know i have. and if you ask anyone else posting here, im sure they will agree.



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