What do you consider as the best martial art in the world?, page 9
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reply posted on 18-6-2008 @ 03:42 PM by Fathom
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
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post by Jazzyguy



Muay Thai combined with american boxing. Unbeatable.

Until they get taken down with a double leg and get submitted with an arm bar because they don't have any ground training.

My boyfriend fights MMA and he says mixed arts is the winning combination.
So the answer to which technique is better?
All of them!


reply posted on 18-6-2008 @ 03:54 PM by unite_life
reply to post by Jazzyguy



Hello everyone and again another great post.

Now I am not conceded and there is no ego attached to the following statement. I am a teacher and on going student of Muay Thai, Ving Tsun Kung Fu, and Jiu Jitsu. I also partake in Capoeira, Karate, Kendo, Chi Gung, and Tai Chi.

Now there is no doubt that the martial arts help condition the body to give and take hits and pain, creates discipline, and encourages communion with the human spirit / spirituality. However, all martial arts have their pros and cons. E.g. Jiu Jitsu is good for bringing a person down, but that leaves you open to other attacks from the attackers friends or leave you open to the attackers durty fighting... Like ball hits, biting, and eye gouging. But these are not really durty fighting... it is a pure reaction to survive which leads me into my next topic.

The fact is we have to develop the fight or flight reaction that is in our R complex of our brain... I mean we can practice for 10 years and still not be able to successfully defend ourselves. Sure their are masters, that meditate to clear their mind and is able to be calm during chaos and recall all the movies necessary to get them out of their situation, but for commoners it is a different story.

We need to develop the basic of attacks and reactions. There is the saying "Despite all their knowledge of their arts, their styles went out the window". this is true... when a fight goes on and on.. you start to abandon your fancy style and resort back to a primal mode of just fling your arms in a gorilla like rage. When you can engrave your mind to harness this gorilla arm flinging rage, into a controlled defensive movement then you got it down.

This guy pretty much explains it pretty well but watch out in signing up for an account on his web page or any merchandise cause you will be spamed like no other. Just look at the videos he has on his website or on youtube/google video.

www.closecombattraining.com...


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reply posted on 18-6-2008 @ 03:57 PM by Fathom
reply to post by Optix


Crap! I didn't even think of the 'ol ice pick in the back trick!
I was mostly talking about civilized cage fighting
Im glad Im a chick because we just pull hair, windmill swing and call eachother "bitch!"


reply posted on 18-6-2008 @ 04:19 PM by runetang
reply to post by Badge01



Ehhhh..

Not so fast Badge ..

It says Ryan Parker is representing Okinawan Karate, or some form of Karate, not Taiji. In fact, there is no such thing as Wang style Taiji. Did you mean Yang style or Wu style Taiji? at any rate, that guy Parker surely wasn't using it. Even if he was, even I'll say a Tai Chi practitioner, or any striker or standing fighter who does not have a very decent ground game is going to lose in any MMA/UFC match. That's because the rules are advantageous toward the grapplers and these are not "real fights", as I explain below, so the Gung-fu practitioner is very restricted in his choice of attacks.

Allow me to say one thing about the UFC: It is merely full contact sport.

1)Yes, they are wearing gloves aren't they? Not boxing gloves, but gloves that make it hard to perform alot of different hand techniques.
2)Not even that, but there are rules. Any fight with rules is NOT the real thing.
3)Can one UFC fighter poke his finger into the other ones eye socket? Can one UFC fighter yank the others' finger and purposefully snap it? What about purposefully snapping an elbow, knee, ankle or wrist in a mere second, not even applying more pressure to make him "tap out"? Or God forbid someone actually bit/yanked someone's ear off .. at any rate the guy would get disqualified and the fight stopped.
4)They are also fighting on a hollow (below) MAT .. not a concrete sidewalk.
5)They only have to fight for 3 minutes tops, then they get to rest, and do it again 3 times in a row.

There, i dont need to keep going into the UFC rulebook.

In a real fight, theres no rounds, no gloves, no rules, no wrestling mats, no corner to go to to get tips and a breather and some vaseline on your wounds, theres nothing and no one to stop your opponent from actually breaking bones, not just tapping you, and actually choking you unconcious, not just tapping you. Do you understand that even UFC/MMA is not "real combat" ?

In a real fight situation, if I really truly feel my life is threatened, I am going to feel guilty for possibly maiming the guy afterward, but if I feel the need to, I will go immediately for the eyes and throat. I will immediately go for the spot behind both ears and press in with all my might until the guy falls limp. Then I check for pulse. If he taps, im not stopping?

So then, I am just making people realize even UFC fights are not "real fights", and that just because grapplers always win UFC fights, and always win via submission (with the occasional ground n' pound), doesn't make those styles of fighting the most deadly, or best for street self defense, because UFC's rules are advantageous to the grapplers by far.

A better full contact sport in my opinion is Chinese Sanda / San Shou.. its like MMA except theres no extended ground grappling, if it goes to a sprawl they break it up and make both fighters stand back up. Watching two grown men squeeze each other out over and over again gets so freaking boring .. I mean geez.. lol..

For those interested in the history of the internal arts (tai chi / pa kua / bagua / hsing-I ), this is a great conversation between Sifus in NYC about the foundation/history of the styles.
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 18-6-2008 @ 04:31 PM by runetang
reply to post by Anthony.Phoenix



I agree, you have to have a ground game to stand a chance against anyone except another striker .. and even then, if he knows a bit, and you know none, he might pull it on you! Lol ..


reply posted on 18-6-2008 @ 04:35 PM by bushidomason
reply to post by fiorano



i did Pankration for ahwile but broke my collar-bone while practicing throws haha so i kind have moved away from it, but my school is one of the qualified Pankration schools under the Fight League group that we have here in SoCal.

eghh its ok, but too much manliness and not enough spirituality overall.

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