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We are not free nor awakened

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posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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We call ourselves new thinkers, we think outside the box, we have awaken from the matrix...

...and yet we keep discussing the conspiracy theories that are nowadays always the same:

2012
Zion
New World Order
WW3
UFOs
The Freemasons
Illuminati
Nephilim
Reptilians
Royal Blood Lines
JFK
Grays
Roswell
Area 51
Chip implants
Planet X
Mind Control
H.A.A.R.P.

...and so on and so on.

These theories are all indeed interesting and entertaining, but that we fail to see is that despite of calling ourselves free and awakened, our minds are yet again locked on this circle of repetitive conspiracy theories - in this matrix so to speak.

So maybe there is a conspiracy within a conspiracy?

Maybe while our minds are occupied with theorizing about the above-mentioned topics, we fail to see that we are being diverted from the truth.

If all these above-mentioned topics were in any way a real matter of national security - or had any real secrecy value about them - they would never been so largely known all around the internet. Those above-mentioned topics have almost become public property: there are books, movies and TV series made about those topics.

They have become pop culture.

So maybe, in our quest to find the truth, we have all been diverted from the real truth and preoccupied - while the real truth that we seek is being kept away.





[edit on 16-6-2008 by Spooky Fox Mulder]




posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 10:13 PM
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reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder
 


"Luke, you're going to find that many
of the truths we cling to depend greatly
on our own point of view."
-- Obi-wan Kenobi



posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 10:15 PM
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Better that our minds spend time on these types of issues and get some exercise than join the countless masses who are caught in the mind-numbing cycles of either hyperconsumerism and pop culture or the simple struggle to stay alive.



posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
We call ourselves new thinkers, we think outside the box, we have awaken from the matrix...
So maybe, in our quest to find the truth, we have all been diverted from the real truth and preoccupied - while the real truth that we seek is being kept away.


thats one way to look at it.

or maybe our awareness of these topics is our awakening from the "matrix". i for one think the discussion of these topics takes us away from the mindless followings of the masses, but to each his own.
i would like however for you to elaberate on why you feel this way. that is if you dont mind...



posted on Jun, 16 2008 @ 11:07 PM
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See that’s the problem with these conspiracies, because they’re so unbelievable no one is going to believe them even if they are true. You can have the truth on the internet, but because that truth is so ‘out there’ no one’s going to believe it.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by applebiter
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder
 


"Luke, you're going to find that many
of the truths we cling to depend greatly
on our own point of view."
-- Obi-wan Kenobi


Amen.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Better that our minds spend time on these types of issues and get some exercise than join the countless masses who are caught in the mind-numbing cycles of either hyperconsumerism and pop culture or the simple struggle to stay alive.


That is of course a positive way to look at it. Whether these theories will prove to be right or wrong - we are still spending our time exercising - which is good.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
So maybe, in our quest to find the truth, we have all been diverted from the real truth and preoccupied - while the real truth that we seek is being kept away.




Jup, while all or part of the above conspiracies may or may not be true it could easily be part of the 'layers of lies' that have been placed upon us as a whole. You have the generic lie of news/infotainment, failing that you can fall into the 'Alex Jones' trap of conspiracies everywhere or maybe a lie of the submission of religion (nofi) and there are many more traps of diversions that may or may not be true but that is besides the point. If you push through the drama of everyday life, the conspiracies roaming the internet and further you may realize that getting afraid/angry about stuff may be very counterproductive. Not saying that there has to be a general apathy about the way the earth is being mistreated but whenever someone finds the basic truth underneath fear could be a thing of the past even when facing total destruction.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 07:57 AM
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absolutely, If it is public knowledge - you had better believe there is much more to it -- I would like to say the government cant keep a secret -- well, i'm here to tell you... THEY CAN AND DO~!, what you know is nothing... that is why they refuse to answer any questionable questions... because every word could be Spun in any direction they wish as long as there is issues with the facts of events.
Take JFK, they whacked the President of the United States of America Inc. and got away with it... do you know how..? because they know how to keep a secret. Bush Sr. was in charge of the detail that whacked JFK, OK city bombing was a FBI Job - Mcvey was the patsey according to Nichols.
who has no reason to lie ... he's behind bars for the rest of his life.
911 - was planned down to the minute detail for almost 30 years, they kept that somewhat secret, but after the event, too many things did not go as planned... now, we the people have agreed as a society that act was conducted by the Organization The United States of America Inc, thats right the whole government conducted 911. what are you gonna do about it...? the courts refuse to hear the case... wonder why..?
we all know WWIII is right around the corner... and not to mention a nuclear terrorist attack..
all the while we have a weapon on the INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION that can wipe away any Foe's Armor... with such a weapon the Owners of the ISS can conquer the world if the conditions are correct... and they are doing so through Unions... EU... Africian union, North american union the Asian union... etc... as a nature progression of humanity... I would like to to see the world united... but not by fear.. or force... but by common desire of the people. which I do not see happening - I see a hidden hand manipulating the world to bring about this end. (Which will end America)
So, I must object on those grounds alone...


[edit on 18-6-2008 by 888LetsRoll]



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Harman

Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
So maybe, in our quest to find the truth, we have all been diverted from the real truth and preoccupied - while the real truth that we seek is being kept away.




Jup, while all or part of the above conspiracies may or may not be true it could easily be part of the 'layers of lies' that have been placed upon us as a whole. You have the generic lie of news/infotainment, failing that you can fall into the 'Alex Jones' trap of conspiracies everywhere or maybe a lie of the submission of religion (nofi) and there are many more traps of diversions that may or may not be true but that is besides the point. If you push through the drama of everyday life, the conspiracies roaming the internet and further you may realize that getting afraid/angry about stuff may be very counterproductive. Not saying that there has to be a general apathy about the way the earth is being mistreated but whenever someone finds the basic truth underneath fear could be a thing of the past even when facing total destruction.


Very wise said, my friend.

[edit on 30-6-2008 by Spooky Fox Mulder]



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by 888LetsRoll
absolutely, If it is public knowledge - you had better believe there is much more to it --


Yes, as soon as something becomes public knowledge - or mainstream - it's not really a Big Big Secret anymore. We have to search much, much deeper for the truth.

While the most of the world looks to the right.

And the ATS members look to the left.

We have to look up.

Because until now, we have been looking into a wrong direction.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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The elite are masters of deception. They give us one thing just to cover up another, so then people don't know which way is up.

The best way is to just "unplug." Turn off your TV like Howard says in the "Network" movie. Go to the library and read, and read some more. Teach yourself new skills and learn what you can do. You'd be amazed at hidden talents that suddenly emerge once you start exploring.

Be the best person you can be and try not to worry about everyone else. We've become a society that feels obligated to help others, but often forget to work on ourselves.

It's not selfish to take care of yourself first.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by Ceara
The best way is to just "unplug." Turn off your TV like Howard says in the "Network" movie.



Do you happen to have a link to that movie?



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