We Weren't Designed To Eat Meat, Here Is Proof, page 55
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reply posted on 14-11-2011 @ 12:02 AM by sysop317
Plants are alive too. Several studies I've read about have concluded that they feel pain, google should provide sources easily enough.

Pretty much everything we consume comes from something that was alive at one point. Except maybe salt and so on. Food (vegetables as well as meat), cotton and such for clothing, leather in shoes, plastics (polymers made from plant cellulose, fossil fuels that were once dinosaurs, etc), you get the point I'm trying to make. Just because it isn't cute and furry doesn't lessen the value of life does it?

Also, do vegetarians have homes infested with roaches, mice, etc, or do they hire a pest control company to commit genocide on their behalf? Hmm, interesting concept there. Roach mercenary for hire.

Not saying all vegetarians, vegans, etc choose not to eat meat based solely on an aversion to the taking of life, but most seem to deviate that way. Just some things to consider in my opinion, almost if not all life forms maintain that life through death. Even vegetables require dead stuff to live. Crops will not grow in sterile soil. They need organic materials (dead plants and animals) to grow. That circle of life thing that was mentioned earlier in the thread comes to mind.

And the teeth/digestive tract 'facts' are ludicrous. We do not evolve carnivore teeth for cosmetic reasons, evolution has no use for vanity beyond what is required for successful courtship rituals. We have a single chamber in our stomach because we are not meant to break down tough plant fibers on a continual basis to extract all of our nutrients from. That is why you cannot subsist on random twigs and bark, or graze from the lawn. I don't care how hardcore a vegetarian you are, it will not work. We are limited to the tender and easily digestible plant species because of the lack of stomach required for the task of being full on herbivores.


reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 02:37 AM by sickofitall2012
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Do some research on heart arrhythmias and pvc's before you spout off crap. Both of these conditions are caused by lack of fish oil. I can name 5 people alone that have been cured of these ailments with fish oil alone and one of them is an M.D.(who also is the one who told me about fish oil)
Animal fats are essential during development. Look it up for yourself how many children have constant seizures due to a lack of animal fats. Their diets are adjusted and their seizures stop. Animal fats are in so many products, more than you're aware of obviously.
How old are you? Well, just wait, you'll see. No fish oil now = heart attack later.
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reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 02:50 AM by akushla99
Originally posted by sickofitall2012
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Do some research on heart arrhythmias and pvc's before you spout off crap. Both of these conditions are caused by lack of fish oil. I can name 5 people alone that have been cured of these ailments with fish oil alone and one of them is an M.D.(who also is the one who told me about fish oil)
Animal fats are essential during development. Look it up for yourself how many children have constant seizures due to a lack of animal fats. Their diets are adjusted and their seizures stop. Animal fats are in so many products, more than your aware of obviously.


A bit of an agressive reply, given the mildness of what I wrote...nevertheless...

If I understand you correctly, there is no way you can be a full vegetarian, as everything we eat has some animal fats in them...and that, these 5 people you know were vegetarians (which, from what I understand you've implied -they could not be, because of secret fish oil and animal fats), yet they still had heart conditions through lack of fish oil and animal fats?

The OP makes no distinction between whether children or adults should eat meat or not...if your child is ill, you do what it takes to heal it.

Keep the 2 cents!
Akushla
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reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 02:55 AM by Xeven
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Even vegetarians eat bacteria and other lil critters on their food so in fact they all eat meat.


reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 02:55 AM by sickofitall2012
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No.
They are not Veg's. They ate meat, but not fish.
Do you eat Jello?


reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 02:57 AM by akushla99
Originally posted by sickofitall2012
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No.
They are not Veg's. They ate meat, but not fish.
Do you eat Jello?


Jello...jelly? With aspic you mean, or, gelatin?

No...never have!

Akushla



reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 03:05 AM by akushla99
Originally posted by sickofitall2012
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How old are you? Well, just wait, you'll see. No fish oil now = heart attack later.
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I challenged your sweeeeeping statement...which mentions nothing of age requirements...
What relevance would my age have?

Akushla




reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 03:13 AM by akushla99
Originally posted by Xeven
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Even vegetarians eat bacteria and other lil critters on their food so in fact they all eat meat.


Does any bacteria 'die', when you eat it?

Akushla



reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 03:34 AM by SprocketUK
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Just answering the original statement. I've been eating paleo for three months now and reading extensively on it. Many of the things veggies have to eat to make up for the loss of animal food in their diets are on the red list.

After seeing how great I've felt since starting to eat paleo, my wife has even given up on vegetarianism and started eating fish etc. Cos all those legumes and grains made her feel awful.


reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 03:37 AM by akushla99
Originally posted by SprocketUK
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Just answering the original statement. I've been eating paleo for three months now and reading extensively on it. Many of the things veggies have to eat to make up for the loss of animal food in their diets are on the red list.

After seeing how great I've felt since starting to eat paleo, my wife has even given up on vegetarianism and started eating fish etc. Cos all those legumes and grains made her feel awful.


Well...I'm not condoning one or the other...and I'm glad you are both feeling better...

Akushla
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