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Originally posted by Perplexed
We want that here in America? Who's being crass now?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by neformore
Simple question. What difference does it make if he is, or isn't?
The fact that he LIED about something does.
Originally posted by jetxnet
Barack Obama’s half brother claims that his brother, Democrat Presidential candidate Barack Obama, was raised as a Muslim. Contrary to the Obama campaign’s assertions otherwise. Malik says he will make a good president despite his Muslim upbringing.
Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim.
web.israelinsider.com...
[edit on 15-6-2008 by jetxnet]
Originally posted by DaTruth
Why do you think he has to lie.
Originally posted by SUNRAY06
Since when does any candidate or incumbent for that matter lying on any matter substantive or inconsequential mean anything at all?
Originally posted by ATruGodIf he lies about something as simple as his upbringing or his religion can he really be trusted with our Country?
Originally posted by neformore
What all this boils down to, really is this.
The US government and media has spoon fed the general populace so much anti-muslim propaganda that a large section of society over there now appears to be incapable of differentiating between normal everday people and homicidal maniacs.
Muslim has become the new "scare" word - much like communism was in the 50's. Its a new McCarthy era. People have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
And those that oppose Obama as a candidate appear to be so scared that he's going to win, or so desperate to smear the guy in whatever way they can that they are milking that paranoia for all its worth.
You can make a fairly good case to say that the Bush administration lied through its teeth to justify the invasion of Iraq. Because of that 5,000 US service personnel are dead, hundreds of "coalition" troops are dead and the civilian death toll may well be in the hundreds of thousands. And yet people would rather make an issue out of someones supposed religion, and ask if they are fit to run a country because of it.
Thats crass hypocrisy.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Perplexed
the real problem with Obama isn't that he was muslim way back when, or that he studied Islam as a child. The problem is that he LIED about it. This makes him just like every other politician - a liar. No change/hope/unity.
If we are going to accuse the man of lieing about this issue in big CAPITAL letters then let's get exact and precise and stop trying to distort the truth or take advantage of fear or ignorance...let's get down to facts.
Let me see if I can talk your language...
HE HAS NOT LIED. THIS IS DISTORTING THE FACTS. PROPAGANDA designed to convince peopel that won't read beyond a headline.
Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has ACKNOWLEDGED attending a Muslim school, but it was NOT A MADRASSA.
According to a CNN reporter who went to Indonesia and investigate the claims...the school at the time included "Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school"
Obama WROTE IN HIS BOOKS "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and another two years in a Catholic school while living in Indonesia from age 6 to 10.
WHERE HAS HE LIED? I can clearly see where the truth has been trampled throughout these posts, I don't see where Obama lied about being a Muslim? He went to a Liberal Muslim school for two years as a CHILD and discusses it in detail in books and interviews.
Declaring him a Muslim and a liar is pure fear mongering and propaganda. Examine the FACTS.
By the way...the origin of the Muslim rumor....Insight magazine, Moon's unification church propaganda rag. This man has declared himself god incarnate and said he wants to see the UN as a theocratic ruling power over the entire world. GOOGLE "source, muslim rumor Obama" Wikipedia Insight Magazine.
BTW the man who started the middle name Mohamed rumor is a man who thinks the NFL is a cover for a satanic organization...yes the National Football League. Every time these rumors are follwed to their source and fact checked you find people without a shred of evidence scurrying under rocks hiding from the light.
OBAMA NEVER LIED ABOUT THIS. HE ATTENDED A MUSLIM SCHOOLS FOR TWO YEARS AS A CHILD AND WROTE ABOUT IT IN TWO BOOKS.
HE IS NOT A MUSLIM.
Originally posted by metatronscube
reply to post by sos37
Ok, so the law says he has to be killed by Islam law if he converts to another religion...so? That doesn't mean someone is going to be able to do anything about it. That isn't a law here. He is free of religious persecution here.
I'm not even a Barack supporter and I don't understand why this matters. He was born Muslim and then converted to Christianity...I see no issue with this.
[edit on 15-6-2008 by metatronscube]