Strange... for the 2/3 ratio to work in my system, that would mean it's both base 9.9 and base 11.1 at the same time? 9 goes into 3, 11 goes into 2. A dual base math system? It makes sense in a strange way. I wonder how deep this goes...

This has gotta be it.

9 goes into 3, 11 goes into 2 because now it takes the place of 10. Yet 11 and 9 are part of the same system. They both go into 1. Only together do they contain the pi ratio of 2/3.

Don't try to figure this out on a calculator, it won't work. Just look at these numbers:
1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8
9 11

A dual nature system part of a single greater whole.

Base 9/11 math. Coincidence or providence? This is strange new territory.

I would look at the base 12 thing myself. We have changed these systems throughout history, and some of this stuff has been forgotten. This probably ties into the Masonic sacred geometry, if in fact you think that the number system may be "flawed". Many things throughout our past are based on the number 12. Twelve months, twelve inches, a dozen, plus numerous biblical references based on the number 12. That was my first thought when I looked at the thread, however the helix thing makes no logical sense to me as to how you "spaced" the numbers to appear as a helix. Just my 2 cents.

Very interesting posting...

Just yesterday i met up with two friends, and, being rather philosophical, we had a long discussion on life, the universe, and everything, so to speak.

One of the prevailing topics of discussion was the nature of life, and existence. our one friend, by religion a Daoist, brought forth the views that life is on a spiral (!) path that periodically REVERSES direction in order to maintain equilibrium.

Reading this topic now, i've had the thought that perhaps Godismath's ideas on the crop circle are very true. With reference to the numerical Helix structure, perhaps PI is the answer. if it provides the helical structure, it could prove my friend's beleif that life in itself is on a spiral path the reverses (maybe this could indicate a change over to 7.969518456 instead of 3.141592654?), and being the structure of DNA, and the galaxy having a spiral form...?

VERY thought provoking. thanks Godismath. starred and flagged.

Also, regarding the "0" question, looking at the helix image, perhaps the 0 could be a reference to the joining of the structure, where the numbers progress to the next "base set", as in 28, 29, (30, the conjunction), 31, 32, etc?

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This will probably confuse more people than it helps. I'm not a numbers person, but I immediately grasp the concept of the double helix that was created. I'm more of a visualization person, myself. The chain is never broken by 0 (being that 0 is a non-number, but is also assigned to actual numbers that denote a new values of 10). I've repeated the pattern one time.


ODD || EVEN

So I added the two numbers up... figured maybe 3.14 is just an infinite curve, so it's needs it's "other half" to connect the full circle.
...
If we assume that the circle has a dual nature (like everything else in the universe), then it would have to connect back to itself. You can't have complete pi, without both parts. So look at the diagram I made, count the dark areas, then the light areas. Now add these two numbers together (+pi and -pi).
...
A dual nature in numbers seems to appear when the 0s are gone.

I'm not sure this will help ANYONE else understand. But, it's the way that I "got" the double helix representation.

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Thinks seems to exit in nature and even human also,indeed Life itself are mystery of mankind.
1 123456789 123 =6
22 2345678 456 =(15)=6
333 34567 789 =(24)=6
4444 456 666=Universe. 0=Gate.
55555 5 5=Human.
666666
7777777
88888888
999999999
What Illusion and Dream we live.
:Alien.

What's strange about this is that 3.141592654 + 7.969518456 = 11.11111111. Yet there's 40 dark spaces, 60 light, which combined = 100.

But if you count the spaces and skip the 10s, it becomes 111. Or just assume each number is 1.1 instead of just 1.

Maybe it's easier to think about if you take one string of numbers and reverse the curve. Then the numbers would all add up to 10. It doesn't even require any fancy thinking if you put it this way. Just treat two strings of numbers as separate parts of a whole.

As if you have to go forward with one string and backward with the other to connect them. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this entirely.

i can't believe you are are so dense. godismath is the builder of that crop circle.
Or else he is pulling numbers out of his butt. 1= 1.11111111? deny ignorance.

Originally posted by heliumboy
i can't believe you are are so dense. godismath is the builder of that crop circle.
Or else he is pulling numbers out of his butt. 1= 1.11111111? deny ignorance.

Anything constructive to say? I think not.

On topic:

If I was any good at math (I need to work on it, I'm rather rusty lol)...

This is amazing, the helix hit me like a ton of bricks... Keep up the good work, this is mind bending and thought provoking. I just need to understand it better..I wish I could contribute more

good job, lets figure this out...

Originally posted by tyranny22
ODD || EVEN

that is my understanding, as well.

And when i consider things like plasma and electricity, there becomes a slithgtly less random nature to its form and shape.

The circle is divided in ten parts, so essentially it uses base-10 system. So, placing ANY random number in that circle and counting the white and filled spaces equals to 1.1111111...

Originally posted by heliumboy
i can't believe you are are so dense. godismath is the builder of that crop circle.
Or else he is pulling numbers out of his butt. 1= 1.11111111? deny ignorance.

There's no reason for your attitude and calling people dense is really immature.

If you don't have anything useful to say, then don't post at all. You also shouldn't make accusations that you can't back up. Just because he sees something about the crop circle that you're not seeing, that doesn't mean he's the one who made the crop circle.

WOW,amazing if it can be verified or solved(If it can be,maybe it just can't).It looks to me as if whoever made the circle is simplyshowing a base intelligence,kind of like we did on the Voyager probes.I mean look at it,in one geometric shape there is a basic mathematical formula,a pictograph of a double helix,and like someone pointed out possibly a picture of a spiral galaxy!Now if this IS NOT Earth made,than we have definitive proof of extra-terrestrial intelligence.

Awesome post-Starred and Flagged!!This is what ATS is supposed to be about,uncovering information,finding the truth-not bickering back and forth.

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