Ties between sovereignty declaration and OKC bombing?, page 1
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Topic started on 14-6-2008 @ 06:37 PM by jackinthebox
I decided to start this thread after reading about Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty

I don't want to stink up that thread with doom and gloom after such seemingly good news, but something doesn't sit right with me. Could there be some connection here, between such a poignant re-affirmation of sovereignty and the OKC bombing? Keep in mind that the bombing was an attack on Federal authority, supposedly in the name of liberty.

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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 06:40 PM by jhill76
reply to post by jackinthebox



So you saying Ok might have been behind the bombing?


reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 06:46 PM by mybigunit
Here is an interesting link
www.trutv.com...

and here is a quote



The perpetrator, twenty-seven-year-old Timothy James McVeigh, by now safely away from the devastation was convinced he acted to defend the Constitution, for he saw himself as crusader, warrior avenger and hero



reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 06:46 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by jhill76



So you saying Ok might have been behind the bombing?


Not as a whole probably, but perhaps some faction therein, even officially perhaps.

But you can even bring that around full circle to see the potential for a new false-flag operation. Not even an outright attack necessarily, but a squashed political insurgeny might be just the ticket to reign in full martial-law once and for all.


reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 06:52 PM by jhill76
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Yea, I could see where this is going. They will say it is for our protection and people will sell their freedoms because they will throw the Fed card around.


reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 09:01 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by careface



Actually, he was executed in Terra Haute exactly three months to the day, before 9/11. His execution had been delayed pending appeal, but he suddenly dropped all appeals so that his execution could proceed, giving only cryptic explanations why.

He was the first person executed by the Federal government in nearly 40 years.

I highly recommend the book "Others Unknown" written by his own lawyer, who has been released of attorney-client privilege restrictions.



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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 09:49 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by LoneGunMan



Do you think someone that is going to blow up building and at least try and get away with it would rent a rental truck in his name?


...and then try to "hide" by taking the tags off his car?

Nothing says, "hey cop look at me," like driving with no tags.


reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 10:12 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by hinky



I for one, would be quite interested to learn the motivations behind this declaration of sovereignty. Who benefits, who is funding the initiative, is there any opposition in place, etc.?

This all seems so ethereal at the moment. Too much so. When you can't see the angles, you know you're in trouble.



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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 10:40 PM by TheRedneck
reply to post by hinky
I can remember watching and listening to the whole OKC bombing ordeal play out (yeah, I'm an old fart ). I remember listening to the description of the bomb and how it was delivered and thinking to myself, "this guy is too much of an idiot to carry something like this out".

I also remember that someone from the Middle East, with known ties to terrorist organizations, was being sought because their luggage was re-routed by accident through London. There, the authorities found "undisclosed records" and several detonators exactly like those used in OKC. I also remember this story, which had obviously grabbed my attention, was quickly buried.

At the time, I felt that McVeigh was targeted as someone with questionable militia ties to blow up the Murrah Building. He was assisted by someone from the Middle East, who gave him the necessary material, including detonators, to allow him to carry out the bombing. This someone, I believe, was used as a makeshift Federal Agent in order to get the deed done, with the full knowledge and assistance of the US government.

The purpose was the same as the result of the 9-11 bombing. Control. Control by the government of the people. While some progress was made, it was not fully effective. So we had to wait until planes hit the WTC to get the full effect the government wanted.

I still believe that. And I wonder, if a government that has already blown up one of it's own buildings and at the least been passive in not preventing the 9-11 tragedy will not stoop to punish those who conspire against them?

I also fear that even the 9-11 policy changes were not enough. I am expecting a major terrorist strike in the US before the present election cycle completes. Now I have a location to watch.

I fear for Oklahoma.

TheRedneck
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