Italy defends move to patrol streets with soldiers

Italy defends move to patrol streets with soldiers

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The Italian government has defended its decision to use soldiers to patrol cities in an effort to curb crime, rejecting criticism that it will "militarise" the streets.

"There is a strong call from citizens for better control of the streets, for improved safety," Defence Minister Ignazio La Russa told Sky Italia television.

"My hope is that particularly in the evening, in the cities, these troops can ensure greater safety."

The government announced on Friday that up to 2,500 soldiers, some of whom have served in Afghanistan and Kosovo, would be made available for a trial period of six months to bolster the police in difficult urban areas.

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This will be a story to keep your eye on. Deploying military assets for the purpose of domestic law enforcement creates a dangerous situation in which events can easily spiral out of control. In the past, innocent people have been killed during such circumstances.

Given the state of the world economy and the pressures it is placing upon populations, we are seeing more and more civilian unrest, protests, and rioting. It stands to reason that such problems will only increase in number in the coming months.

Pay attention to this story as it progresses, it may provide insight as to how a similar deployments will play out in other countries.



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reply to post by SystemiK


You know it has to be bad if it has come to this.

The reason? The Caribanari. They are basically a jackbooted, quasi-Gestapo, Italian Police force. They shoot first and ask questions later.

So if they have to go to putting military there, then it sounds like a heavily armed police force has only served to train the criminals to be tougher.

Wow.

What comes next? The only logical answer is open warfare between the state and its people. There is no other possible result, unless you want to believe that the troops will be an effective "deterrent" against the whole world going to hell in a handbasket.

It is getting bad indeed. 70% of the italian crime comes from illegal immigrants. Some of them specially go to Italy for earning money out of crime . IT IS bad enough to bring the army in my opinion.

So, the Italian cabinet contains neo-fascists and now it is interesting to see the military are being used to protect the streets. Italy's new sniff with fascism could become a bad, bad decision.

Once facist always facist.
The Roman Emperors, The Pope, Mussolini all facist governments at their time of ruling power. Also if it is 70% immigrants why not just but a border patrol?

All EU countries will follow. The Army are on the streets in the UK tonight because of the oil transport strike.

Originally posted by sty
It is getting bad indeed. 70% of the italian crime comes from illegal immigrants. Some of them specially go to Italy for earning money out of crime . IT IS bad enough to bring the army in my opinion.

That fact sounds a little exaggerated, especially given the Mafia's presence in Italy. Where'd you hear that?

Originally posted by Marsrising
All EU countries will follow. The Army are on the streets in the UK tonight because of the oil transport strike.

British troops are out on the streets? I must've missed that... where are they being deployed?

This situation will very easily get out of hand.

Soldiers are trained to kill and if they are deployed in a civilian location than they will most likely treat the citizens as if they were their enemy.

Well America we can just watch how this goes down in Italy if we want to see the future of our streets.

Originally posted by Marsrising
All EU countries will follow. The Army are on the streets in the UK tonight because of the oil transport strike.

Would you like to show me some evidence that the army has been deployed to transport fuel during the strike?

The army does filling in during strikes, fire strike are a perfect example. No conspiracy in the UK

It seems the Italian military troops will literally "clean up" the streets.



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ROME / Beginning his third term as prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi on Wednesday pledged forceful measures to solve two of Italy's problems. These steps would include the use of the military to tackle the longstanding garbage crisis in Naples and new restrictions on illegal immigrants.

[edit on 14-6-2008 by Tuebor]

There are 2 ways of doing this. Start adding military to the streets like Italy or start militarizing police like US. Both very dangerous

Eh who cares? It's ITALIAN troops we're talking about here. It's not like they were EVER a threat to ANYBODY.

Seriously, this is DISGUSTING, it's clearly MARTIAL LAW. And probably will be followed by other EU countries and north america soon enough.

And of course we'll see on TV those dumbasses slaves saying that ``security comes first``... god I want to punch them in the face, those freaking cowards.

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Oh dear, now Italy is a pretty free country in modern respects. If this can happen there then can it happen in other european countries? If troops take to the streets of the UK on a regular basis i hope the people here will finally stand up and say no. It will probably be to late then though, afterall when troops are marching the streets with assault rifles, what person wants to stand out in the streets protesting?

Originally posted by Ste2652
That fact sounds a little exaggerated, especially given the Mafia's presence in Italy. Where'd you hear that?

While bag snatching was the most popular immigrant crime with 70% of offences committed by foreigners, immigrants were also responsible for around 33% of violent crimes committed in 2007, the report said.

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Italy's foreign population was behind 39% of sexual offences, 27% of bodily harm crimes and 36% of murders in 2007.

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The report also stressed that almost all immigrant crime in the country is committed by foreigners who do not have a residence permit.

- Italian Society of Economics, Demographics and Statistics

Of course - outside 'bag snatching' - none of the crimes come under "70%", but such high levels of immigrant (especially illegal) crime is worrying nonetheless.

But, I guess it's more "safety" versus "freedom" - but this could be another "problem-reaction-solution" op as per the security checkpoints in Washington D.C.

The militirisation of any country's streets outside war is a worrying trend indeed.

Yes it's a step towards martial law, but if the citizens have called for it thennn it's not exactly fascist yet is it?

The sad thing is that if troops took to UK streets without us asking, a few people might stand up and complain but as soon as the government said the magic word: 'Terrorism', most people would sit down and allow it.

All said though, I reckon the Italian coppers have great looking uniforms. Apart from the French, they're in a class of their own.

On a more serious note, over the weekend in New Zealand, Auckland police mooted the prospect of having armed 'ready-response' roving around the city at all times.

They're looking at a six month trial which could start as early as March next year. It would probably involve officers carrying Bushmaster rifles and Glock 9mm pistols.

Christchurch - NZ's second biggest city (sorry Wellingtonians) is also looking at trialing a similar scheme.

In my view, police 'trials' lead to permanence. Like the taser.

This is on the back of increased gang and youth gang problems that are prevalent mostly in South Auckland (our version of the baddest parts of LA, NYC, etc...), and an increased availability of meth (better known as 'P', or 'Pure').

this reality scares the crap out of me. our world is crumbling at it's core and the effects are clearly visible all around. History repeats itself, and that's exactly what it's doing here, only this time, the result is going to be a hell of a lot more devastating.

What I want to know is, will the government make the trains run on time.....


(that's one thing that made Mussolini so very popular with the idiot public in the thirties. We have idiot publics in Britain and the U.S. to name but a couple. Folks who focus on superficiality and miss the portent these events actually indicate. An example here are those who actually believe Homeland Security exists to increase their security.... oh, on second thought... maybe it is.... er, to hold them securely...