Unfortunately the majority of people go to bed with a false notion of reality. They do this because they don't dare think how it would feel knowing that their governments have lied to them. That they're a pitiful useless individual, being manipulated by mass media and propaganda.

This hurts EVERYONE, but then... only the weak doesn't dare ask the right questions. Those are the people with a distorted reality because otherwise they wouldn't work in society anymore. They're weak people clinging to false truths, images and history.

Bottom line is that you've all been deceived, even those of us who knew what was going on even before it happened. We're living in a world controlled by people who don't see other people are humans anymore but parts of a bigger machine. We're all expendable and worthless. We've been reduced to slaves. Yes you are ALL slaves. Stop thinking within the typical box that you've been force fed over all these years. Think outside the box if you can and ask your self, just HOW much liberty DO you have? Don't compare your self to the worst case scenarios, look at what the human mind and body requires to feel free and healthy. Do you have that? Do you REALLY have that when you strip away the delusion? IS your food 100% natural? Why isn't it? Can you sit and take time off to find your self or sort out your problems if you have any at any time? No... You can't. You get punished for things so unnatural that it's obvious that the so called freedom most people believe in, is a certain kind of prison. TV imprisons your thoughts, you're conditioned to believe what you see, because less intelligent people (the majority 'not their fault') are in fact dumb, WILL find a way to convince people to see it their way. Peer Pressure is bigger than ever, adults act like children and hurt other people like children only much worse. People are glued to celebrities like Paris Hilton who's the worst kind of human and others believe in every word that comes out of George Bush's mouth, yet never questioning the validity of it. Because you've been convinced by TV and friends, colleagues and mass media that what you see is the truth.

Simply put, the human brain is overloaded with garbage left and right from the mass media. It confuses people and leaves them to filter the best way they can. But that becomes mentally challenging and it ends up giving up. Finally people just accept what's widely accepted because the government makes sure you're having enough problems at home to not have the open minded view that could cause you to ask the right questions. What kind of problems do they inflict on most people? Well, the simplest one is economics which actually is one of the major reasons why people can't keep their family together. Drug addiction is the second, which is in the form of proscribed drugs and then the off the street drugs which young people flock to because the human condition has become so deplorable they look for any escape possible.

People are generally too narrow minded and that's why it's so easy to control them.

We also have religion to help in the control.

People cannot deal with the fact that the government was to blame for every and ALL murder since Vietnam. They can't deal with it, because they've been raised partly by the government to think that they can do no wrong and it's their safety cushion.

Now can you expect people to truly believe that their government did this when they would fall into a deep depression if they found out. Most people just can't handle the truth and thus leaves the dichotomy of people who'll always end up hating each other for expressing their views on topics. Some can't deal with it and some have a way too vivid imagination.

We are NOT controlled by Aliens. We're all victims of the worst kind of greed and incompetence.

The only way to win is to fight back. But before we can win, we need to let go of everything we've ever had. Just for a moment, though. Then start anew.

Who is we?
This attack is being used to allow liberties be erased.I agree.

But it was a terrorist attack(not your government)If you remember g bush jnr got in on a ticket of usa withdrawing as "world policeman".
USA has funded terrorismn since its inception,was no fuss when it happened eleswhere eh?eg the IRA for one throughout the 60s70s80s.
One attack on the Untied States though and you go to war on unrelated soft targets things you didnt finish properly the first time(and helped make worse imo).Like throwing toys from the pram.
How many tests of planes flying into buildings do you see?So how do we know what would happen if one did ?Jet fuel is hot.

you should be more concerned with how USA has lost the energy war with Russia,watch fuel prices soar.Russia will be seen as winners of cold war in 50 years .


Respect to all victims of terrorism.

Ok, heres an Idea using popular music as a passage for the truth, somebody write a cracking song, listing the facts about 9/11.. the aproach as many 9/ 11 truth movements as possible,there must be loads of petitioning groups-basically a massive coordination of like minded people,.. and on all boards like this one all over the net, all to buy the song at exactly the same time .. all over the world.. to try and get it as high up in the charts as possible...( over here in the uk it doesnt take many people to get to number 1 here as when led zep was belting out tunes, we are talking thousands not millions... ) get maybe a small record label to maybe do hard copies... but the beauty of the internet now is that you could release a song and bang! your in the spot light of all those commercial radio stations, Tv stations... if there is any attempt to 'hush' the song..this will add to its credability and give it a place in the history books..

the blue collar workers will do what they allways do and follow the majority..it will show alot of people a side to something they never even give a second thought to..kept blind by the media people.
think of a snow ball rolling down the hill!

thats my idea..
the more i was typing that the more I want to do it.

Feedback?
think people power!

p.s sorry if my spelling is crap, im writing with gusto!

extension of idea..

go for the Christmas number one slot!

bang! bye bye lies!

Originally posted by tide88
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? NOTHING BECAUSE THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY!

If it makes you feel better, keep screaming that in your nightmares.

just watched that video above. When it shows that first building being demolished it is completly different then the world trade centers collapse. That build just falls no debris or smoke coming out of each floor, and it is obviously falling a lot faster. I can watch that video and without doing any math I can tell that one is a controlled demolition, and the trade center is not.

anything short of a full blown world revolution will be fruitless.

the evil bast@rds have us by the short and curlies.

and people like justice11 are the ones who go around attempting to make us look like tin foil hat wearing crazies.

I`m not afraid to name names...not at all...

If I think you are a SHILL, then I will say so.

this thread is for those who want a solution, not for shills
to try and debunk the whole thing...pathetic...

Originally posted by tide88
just watched that video above. When it shows that first building being demolished it is completly different then the world trade centers collapse. That build just falls no debris or smoke coming out of each floor, and it is obviously falling a lot faster. I can watch that video and without doing any math I can tell that one is a controlled demolition, and the trade center is not.

Guess what? That first building IS the World Trade Center. It's WTC 7.

And you're right -- it's obviously a controlled demolition. Larry "pull it" Silverstein admitted it on national TV.

Keep investigating. You'll eventually come to the same conclusion about WTC 1 and 2.

Originally posted by tide88
I can watch that video and without doing any math I can tell that one is a controlled demolition...

Well done. You're catching on.

superstef - a music video is an excellent idea.

This one kind of assumes you've already figured it out.


- I thought the video was very amusing, but i'm thinking a professional original song to be released in the real charts that's documented in history - not a satire youtube video that anyone can knock up with the right software. all we'd have to do was syncronise everyone who's involved in 9/11 truth movement to buy the track and it'd get in the charts and on the airwaves (I realise me and these people could be wrong but isn't that true democracy? - get the message out there and let people decide for themselves).

i want to do something to change things (that was the original thread wasn't it-sometijmes these threads can go on forever dwindling away from the subject) and i think the music industry has so much power over people and the way they think. Basically everybody believes what they believe. I know what I believe and I wanna do something about it. I think in a siatuation like this you have to be careful though - one poorly researched fact could lead to the debunking of your whole theory (like vultures). (I might start this as a sepearte thread as I think it's a good idea and I'm fed up of people sat about on their arses paying taxes to kill innocent people.)
thoughts?