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Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty

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posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:53 AM
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I find it hilarious that the ones that complain about the Media are the same people that fund them via subscriptions and buying their publications LOL

They even give them ratings and support them by viewing their programming.

How can one actually take what they say seriously when on the other hand they are supporting them.



[edit on 15-6-2008 by mOOmOO]




posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:55 AM
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Actually I'm from the European Union and the same goes here and the U.S. is doing the same now. In the EU, people are doing the same against the local NWO and the NWO cannot do anything against it. The EU will fall apart and everyone will be happy. The Irish have just shown the true power of the people. And what the EU can do against it? Nothing. They lost all over the world. The next years are their endgame. If they don't like that the people have power, hell they may go to Israel or Russia. Who cares. But they lost already in the U.S. and in the E.U. The people of these two large "states" are hold together, because they have one goal. While I'm from the E.U., I'm strongly supporting what Oklahoma and Idaho is doing and what the Lakotas did, because that's also weakening our common enemy. The people in the U.S. are also supporting the people of the E.U. They greeted the Irish, the Spanish, the Hungarians when they rebelled against their government. So, don't be blind. The NWO is want to force people to do what they want to. The citizens of these two states are holding together by their own free will. And free will cannot be defeated by anything.

[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by mOOmOO
 

Actually I'm from the European Union and the same goes here and the U.S. is doing the same now. In the EU, people are doing the same against the local NWO and the NWO cannot do anything against it. The EU will fall apart and everyone will be happy. The Irish have just shown the true power of the people. And what the EU can do against it? Nothing. They lost all over the world. The next years are their endgame. If they don't like that the people have power, hell they may go to Israel or Who cares. But they lost already in the U.S. and in the E.U. The people of these two large "states" are hold together, because they have one goal.



The concept of "union's" is what the NWO is about. Which side are YOU on LOL

Good luck with you getting work and the ability to travel about the EU when it falls appart. Which it wont.

You are just full of it.

On one hand you want the benefits then on the other hand you are telling it to F off.

Which is it?

That is like American's demanding "her allies" do this and that and go to war for American causes then on the other hand telling her allies to not get involved in American politics.

Which is it?



[edit on 15-6-2008 by mOOmOO]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:59 AM
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Believe what you want, you can't stop anyone to declare their sovereignty, their independence. You and your kind is lost. If you accept it earlier, the better will be for you. But honestly, I don't care about it what you want to believe in your dreamworld. Money is not going to save any elites from their failure. Not at this time.


[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by mOOmOO
 

Believe what you want, you can't stop anyone to declare their sovereignty, their independence. You and your kind is lost. If you accept it earlier, the better will be for you. But honestly, I don't care about it what you want to believe in your dreamworld.


You care enough what I want to believe to post your rants and delusions on here LOL and not just once, but many times.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:03 AM
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Yeah. I'm living in delusions, Oklahoma, Idaho, whose voted yesterday to ban the Federal Reserve (part of NWO), the Lakotas whose also declared their sovereignty are living in delusions. The Spanish are living in delusions too, the Belgians, the French, the British, the Hungarian, the Polish, the German citizens are living in delusions too. That's why they're boycotting and striking against the E.U. in the last two weeks. The Irish are also living in delusions, because they used their power and rejected the globalism plan of the NWO.

So, as I see, everyone in these countries are mistaken. Only you have right. Yeah. Sure. Dream on, mister. Accept that money, the NWO power... no one can stop the awakening and the resistance of the people. Hence... they already lost.

[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
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But honestly, I don't care about it what you want to believe

[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



Yes you do. That is why you cannot stop posting replies!



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:08 AM
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No. Actually I don't. But I'm responding here directly to share these valuable information with the people, whose are reading this thread to tell them that the people of Oklahoma, Idaho and the Lakotas are not alone and not they're the only ones, whose are fighting against our common enemy. You're just playing to our hand and I'd like to say thank you for this. Thanks for your cooperation.



[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by mOOmOO
 

No. Actually I don't. But I'm responding here directly to share these valuable information with the people, whose are reading this thread and to tell them that the people of Oklahoma, Idaho and the Lakotas are not alone and not they're the only ones, whose are fighting against our common enemy. You're just playing to our hand and thank you for this.




Yes you do, that is why you are hitting F5 frantically to post a reply! You are a drone. "Must type reply..." "Must type reply..." "Must type reply..."



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:10 AM
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But you love your HDTV flat screen and still pay for cable I bet.

You love Rupert Murdoch and you think what he decides to let you think.

You are all mouth and no action. I suggest you get rid of your TV and subscriptions. Until then, you LOVE the media.


LOL! My flat screen? I make $5.50 an hour working under the table,. I'm a college student, and I'm living with relatives for the summer. Yes they have cable, but the past four years when I'm at school, I haven't even had a tv.


I find it hilarious that you all come out of the cracks in the walls to defend the constitution when its TOO LATE. Hebus Corpus is gone. That pre-dated the constitution.

You have no constitution.


Its better than nothing. Only through obtaining knowledge through sites like these can we even begin to challenge the system. I don't just sit here and yell. I try to inform people in the real world about all of the news I get on sites like these. Would you rather people just keep quiet and attempt to change nothing?

The average American can hardly be blamed, they have had the largest propaganda war in history waged on them. I do agree with your sentiment that things are bad, but I'm personally (and probably many of the people on this forum) am trying to make a change. I encourage you to help also, by informing people of the rights that are being lost and trying to change it, both in your country and abroad. Remember, we are all humans, and we should fight tyranny no matter what country it is in.

[edit on 15-6-2008 by Grambler]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:11 AM
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You can't piss me off. Don't even take your time for this, because it's not going to happen. Why don't you quit? Right now, you're going far too off topic.
Why don't you simply state some original idea about what you really think about Oklahoma? Or why don't you simply bug out?


[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by Grambler
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But you love your HDTV flat screen and still pay for cable I bet.

You love Rupert Murdoch and you think what he decides to let you think.

You are all mouth and no action. I suggest you get rid of your TV and subscriptions. Until then, you LOVE the media.


LOL! My flat screen? I make $5.50 an hour working under the table,. I'm a college student, and I'm living with relatives for the summer. Yes they have cable, but the past for years when I'm at school, I haven't even had a tv.


I find it hilarious that you all come out of the cracks in the walls to defend the constitution when its TOO LATE. Hebus Corpus is gone. That pre-dated the constitution.

You have no constitution.


Its better than nothing. Only through obtaining knowledge through sites like these can we even begin to challenge the system. I don't just sit here and yell. I try to inform people in the real world about all of the news I get on sites like these. Would you rather people just keep quiet and attempt to change nothing?

The average American can hardly be blamed, they have had the largest propaganda war in history waged on them. I do agree with your sentiment that things are bad, but I'm personally (and probably many of the people on this forum) am trying to make a change. I encourage you to help also, by informing people of the rights that are being lost and trying to change it, both in your country and abroad. Remember, we are all humans, and we should fight tyranny no matter what country it is in.


Oh the average American can be blamed...


"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither."


Do you know who said that?


Better than nothing? Well, NOTHING is what you got. Congratulations.




[edit on 15-6-2008 by mOOmOO]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:20 AM
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The baiting and heavy sarcasm will cease NOW. Further incidents will indicate a lack of concern for your fellow members and the direction of this thread and will result in certain unpleasant actions occurring.

This is your warning.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by mOOmOO
 

Actually I'm from the European Union and the same goes here and the U.S. is doing the same now. In the EU, people are doing the same against the local NWO and the NWO cannot do anything against it. The EU will fall apart and everyone will be happy. The Irish have just shown the true power of the people. And what the EU can do against it? Nothing. They lost all over the world. The next years are their endgame. If they don't like that the people have power, hell they may go to Israel or Russia. Who cares. But they lost already in the U.S. and in the E.U. The people of these two large "states" are hold together, because they have one goal. While I'm from the E.U., I'm strongly supporting what Oklahoma and Idaho is doing and what the Lakotas did, because that's also weakening our common enemy. The people in the U.S. are also supporting the people of the E.U. They greeted the Irish, the Spanish, the Hungarians when they rebelled against their government. So, don't be blind. The NWO is want to force people to do what they want to. The citizens of these two states are holding together by their own free will. And free will cannot be defeated by anything.

[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]


That is true... acutally the people start to look on the money notes and exchange the notes that were printed in less strong EU countries like Italy, Spain and Eastern European (they do have little markings on the notes).



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:27 AM
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Oh the average American can be blamed...


"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither."

Do you know who said that?


Ben Franklin. He fought to convince American people who stood by in the face of tyranny to rise up and challenge it (Revolutionary war). Even if he blamed people for leaving it happen, he would not just forsake them and not help them fight the abuses they are enduring, much as you suggest. I suppose you would also blame the poor people of Sudan for the situation they are in. Why didn't they rise up and fight their leaders? Everyone country in the world today is being complacent to some kind of tyranny (even your country wherever that may be), so are you suggesting that everyone deserves what they get?

What you fail to realize is that by being angry at Americans, or British, or Canadian, etc, we play right into the hands of the tyrannical, because we aren't focusing on them. I don't view myself as an American, I view myself as a human who happens to live in America. I will no longer be responding to your posts unless you start to post things related to the OP, instead of just trolling.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:31 AM
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I don't view myself as an American, I view myself as a human who happens to live in America.

Same here. I'm just one, who lives in the European Union, but distance, borders and cultures cannot divide us, people, when we have a common goal, a common enemy and when everything is all about our personal independence, our natural born existence and free will; we must hold together, regardless where we're and where we come from.

So, GO OKLAHOMA, GO IDAHO, GO LAKOTAS!

[edit on 15-6-2008 by Dark Crystalline]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:40 AM
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There is a Change in the winds

There is a fever that is lurking in our worlds
Across the globe, people, on an unconcious level, are resisting
Not all is lost
The situstion is not as dire as it seems

Between the Hawwaii's re-taking Hawwaii, and Ireland smacking down the EU, and now this from OK... something is happening here...

An unified front againt the Global Powers that be.
Not a orginized front
But a sense of greater understanding

The essential deceny of people, to live free, can unite us all

The Greatest victories are the ones the MSM completly ignore...

Tell your friends, family, everyone you know...

We are on the brink of Global Revolution...
Yet, we are all still blind in our infancy...



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 07:23 AM
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My father always said to enjoy yourself because he felt that we (the US) were running on borrowed time.

The Great Lakes Compact. We already did this. All the Great Lake states and provinces are united. Another "first" or "not since..." type of thing. It is necessary. We need regional organization now. We're toobig and diverse for one Federal power to manage all the nit-picky details that our Federal Government handles. Transportation costs are too high. Interstate commerce is becoming less remote, hence a decrease in Federal function... as a mundane example.
No problem. The trains here in the Midwest are running overtime. Local farmers have a glint in their eyes.

And there will be alot more of this. You are going to see the US transform at a remarkable pace. I think alot of people will be suprised...



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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To our partners in the struggle against the NWO from across the seas; do not be fooled, though for sure having suffered severe set backs of late, the men behind the curtain still have the power: how long could you last, or resist, if power generation ceased along with food distribution? How will you resist when there are sweeps to rid Europe of dissenters? Study the round ups and repression carried out by the Soviet Army in East Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia in the late 1940's and the 1950's - the historical pictures of rocks being thrown at soviet tanks might prove instructive - this time you would be WISE to learn from history.

Far be it from one such as I to assign nefarious motives to any fellow American at this critical moment in our collective destiny; no, let me humbly suggest that the authors of several responses to this thread have missed the underlying issue. With their parasitic lives revolving around sit-coms, celebrity scandals, the latest sport event and the mall, the vast majority of Americans paid little heed to our nation's impending date with destiny. They have either been lulled to sleep with a 'secret' rapture fantasy, or kept busy playing the Manchurian Candidate’s game of the Republican or Democratic fantasy of real elections. While so doing the time for peaceful change passed; FEMA already has any American contributors to ATS in their data base with red tags set aside for them. You will fight on your feet, or die on your knees.

The people of the great State of Oklahoma are leading the way with the Indian Nations, and perhaps more States soon to follow. Will we stand together? Can we put aside our petty regional differences for the good of our Republic? Or will we foolishly continue to blindly follow the “trust me” politicians, that have sold our birth right, over the cliff to destruction?

The dynamic force of an free, armed and united people willing to bleed for what they believe in is irresistible to a hired tyrant. Remember the “Three boxes in American politics”: the soap box, the ballot box, and the cartridge box. The opening shots in the Second American Revolution have already been fired at those that "Newspeak" was successful at marginalizing. The second “Shot Heard Around the World” will soon come in a “Night of the Long Knives” when outspoken political dissidents are rounded up for the crime of supporting terrorism with their “speech”. The evil empire can only win if good men and women stand idle and do nothing.


[edit on 6/15/2008 by SGTChas]

[edit on 6/15/2008 by SGTChas]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 08:09 AM
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Melodrama. Be more specific, please. You seem to know the future. Are you saying NATO or some MJ12-type will attack all the grumpy Americans and make them submit to... consuming resources that don't exist? *gasp* watching television programming with really low production values?
Wait! You mean, you might not be able to afford to spend more money on clothes than on housing anymore?!
Nooo!! The humanity!
Are the Soviets analogous to the evil corporations? China? The Chinese will invade North America and make everybody behave in a homogenous manner.
Why do other people who were raised in my culture want to torture me and create a hell-on-earth situation?

I'm not saying the next 75 years or so is going to be fun or pretty, but I don't think that reality is going to unfold along some linear prophetic narrative. Close maybe, but only like Nostradamus is close sometimes.



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