Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty

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posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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The above senate link is nonsens forms..


Here is what i have found from the OK seneate so far

HJR 1089 − By Key, Dorman, Johnson (Dennis) and Reynolds of the House and
Brogdon of the Senate.
A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the
Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal
government to cease and desist certain mandates; providing that certain federal legislation
be prohibited or repealed; and directing distribution.

Pdf Link

Joe




posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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OKLAHOMA WILL LEAD THE WAY!


Seriously, I am proud to be a transplanted Okie today!

I was born in Ohio to Canadian parents and grew up in Texas, but I am VERY HAPPY with my final "home" state today.


BOOMER SOONER!


Springer...



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by twitchy
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I agree with you, but doubting something because it's on a conspiracy site in PDF without looking into it could be equally dubious...
www.okhouse.gov...
There's a more valid source, looks like it passed...
Between what you termed Swallowing Garbage, and Towing the Line, I think I'd rather Swallow Garbage.

[edit on 14-6-2008 by twitchy]


Good link i found this also

Judge’s 1804 Ruling Undermined by Presidential Executive Order in OK

that must be one of the reasons why they are trying fix this nation through our constitution. Revelation doesnt need to happen we can fix this ourselves if we all work together.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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I've never been so proud to be an Okie in my entire life.

viva la Redman's Land!!

Labor omnia vincit



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Way to go Oklahoma



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76
The last time this was done, civil war broke out. Do the members here think that the Feds will actually cease and desist? This is good, I hope more people who know more about politics can weigh in.

Good question. Depends how long Pelosi and company keep their seats in Congress. Unfortunately, in Commiefornia, Pelosi will probably keep her seat until she dies...which should be a very long time away since pure evil people tend to live forever.

Want things to change for the BETTER? As in REAL, DEFINED, POSITIVE change - not just a word "change" plastered on a politician, spewed over and over to try and convince uneducated people too lazy to do any research to vote for him - then vote out ALL the radical Socialists. Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, Reid, Kennedy, Obama, Clinton, Murtha - these are the 8 biggest demons in America. These are the most dangerous, most radical, most anti-American and, sadly, most powerful people in America seen in the public eye.

Want the country to get better? Get rid of them by ANY means necessary.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:52 PM
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Hate to bring in doom and gloom here to such a happy thread, but let's remember the OKC bombing here. It was a Federal building after all, and Tim McVeigh went to his grave believeing that one day there would be statues of him standing as a testament to liberty.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
Hate to bring in doom and gloom here to such a happy thread, but let's remember the OKC bombing here. It was a Federal building after all, and Tim McVeigh went to his grave believeing that one day there would be statues of him standing as a testament to liberty.


What does this have to do with the topic? Tim McVeigh was not from Oklahoma. He didn't make an "Oklahoma" statement. He made a burr-headed, Michigan militia statement.

So what is your point?



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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God Bless Oklahoma.


Since this is a conspiricy website here is one that falls in line with OK.

Many of the tribes were forced from freedom to reserves upon the good land of Oklahoma.

Could the very seeds of those RED MEN now be the ones to bring freedom back to the United States of America?

I will follow the results of this with interest. After all Mr. Bush is a Yankee!



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:22 PM
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Congratulations Oklahoma, you now have something to be proud of other than being the most boring state in the nation.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:23 PM
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*CLAP CLAP CLAP*

Does this mean that there will no more federal income taxes in OK? According to the Constitution, the federal government can't have any involvement in anything within a state unless it involves multiple states or other countries...right?

I have nothing but respect for Oklahoma right now.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:23 PM
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You missed the point. Read it again.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:24 PM
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Wow man if this is passed through all the channels and passed I am moving to OK. Seriously. Is there 4 seasons there or is it all desert. Im looking for a 4 season atmosphere and trees. Fill me in. Ive been looking at NH and IA but if OK does this they will be on my list of places Im might move to.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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quote - the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the
Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all
powers not otherwise enumerated

over all powers not otherwise enumerated....

i dont even think my elaboration on that subject is called for.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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So what is your point?


More of a question really. Could there be a connection? There is plenty of conspiracy theory surrounding the events of that day. And now Oklahoma may find themselves at the forefront of a battle for the return of sovereignty. Such declarations of liberty are not taken kindly by the Federalists.

If there is some connection, it would certainly have to be found in the reasons of why Oklahoma has decided to take this step. What do they hope to gain? What have they suddenly lost? Why are they doing this now?

By the way, to be clear, I am all for it, but something just doesn't feel right here. Is this just going to be something that gets swept under the carpet and forgotten about again?

I am also against violent action unless absolutely necessary. If OKC was meant to spawn a new revolution, they failed miserably, and actually paved the way for further erosion of liberty. But of course, that's just my opinion.

EDIT to add: Just seems to be too much of a coincidence for me, that the affront against Federal authority centers in Oklahoma once again.

[edit on 6/14/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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Timothy McVeigh claimed he did it because of Waco and Ruby Ridge because the government was stealing peoples rights. That was his revenge. Hmmm Jack


[edit on 14-6-2008 by mybigunit]



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Hate to bring in doom and gloom here to such a happy thread, but let's remember the OKC bombing here. It was a Federal building after all, and Tim McVeigh went to his grave believeing that one day there would be statues of him standing as a testament to liberty.


What does this have to do with the topic? Tim McVeigh was not from Oklahoma. He didn't make an "Oklahoma" statement. He made a burr-headed, Michigan militia statement.

So what is your point?

Technically, McVeigh was not associated with the Militia either.

McVeigh was a nobody that tried numerous times to attach himself to various Patriot and Militia groups around the nation unsuccessfully. Before that he was a member of the United States Army and even took part in the massacre in Waco, TX. There is speculation that McVeigh was a patsy for the Bombing of the Oklahoma Federal Building, due to an enormous amount of evidence that suggests that the bombing was carried out by Federal agents.

But none of that has anything to do with this thread.


I just didn't want to let the implication of the Militia movement being tied to OKC go unchallenged.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit


Timothy McVeigh claimed he did it because of Waco and Ruby Ridge because the government was stealing peoples rights. That was his revenge. Hmmm Jack



OKC was a false flag operation to get certain laws past, to take the heat off the Gov for WACO (feel sorry for us our children were killed too) and to put "Domestic Terrorism" into the American mindset. That way when the stuff really hits the fan we all say OMG its child killing domestic terrorists!

Michigan Militia is a patriotic movement that does not do things like OKC. They are NOT a bunch of what did Val say...bur-heads? I live about 60 miles from Timothy Mcvieh's hometown..I know what the score is.

Go Okies!



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:38 PM
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I'm not from the USA but I fear that if this all passes then OK will be number 1 target for a false flag terror attack. Now submit to the federal government, we are the only one that can protect you for these 'terrorists'


for what it's worth, I'm all for OK retaking control from the feds.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 06:39 PM
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I didn't mean to derail this thread, so I started a new one with the focus on a potential conspiracy theory tieing this news in with the bombing.

Ties between sovereignty declaration and OKC bombing?





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