Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty, page 11
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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 01:03 PM by SGTChas
reply to post by djerwulfe





Are the Soviets analogous to the evil corporations? China? The Chinese will invade North America and make everybody behave in a homogenous manner.


The fact that you even ask this question sir belies the uselessness of answering; how do explain the color blue to the blind? Or conversely, with the belligerent overtones of your phrasing, the inability to explain concepts understood only from within the animating contest of true liberty to one who actually thinks that he is free in a parliamentary democracy? An exercise in futility.



I didn't ask you any unreasonable questions and I'm not impressed by your archaic phrasing. (..or quotes) Just answer the questions or go post on some creative writing site. What's your point? Everybody with any brains already knows what you're saying, so why do you need to give out old, non-specific, ambiguous statements about evolving geopolitics as though they're prophetic, or revealing?


The amazing fact that you have no clue as to whom I'm quoting (his name is Patrick Henry) merely illustrates the point I make that answering you would be useless. Furthermore, anyone who feels I might have a condescending tone toward Europeans - I suggest - has an inferiority complex to begin with, or a chip on his shoulder as you seem to.

Also, opening a discussion on prophetic scriptures in this thread would be pointless and off topic; I digress to the moderators. Good evening to you sir.


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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 02:12 PM by Peepers
reply to post by GideonHM




Indian tribes are sovereign nations within the united states as long as they are federaly (BIA) recognized by the government.

They can govern themselves with tribal government but still have to operate under united states federal law.



reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by Gorman91


Unfortunately the NWO feels their loss and they're putting NWO zionist generals to the chair, such as the new USAF Chief General, who is presumably a zionist (Well. He is a confirmed Jew. I cannot confirm for 100% that he is a zionist too, but there is a great chance, after this replacement was hailed in the Israeli newspapers.).

The NWO is doing the same in my country. Zionists are in the main chairs, whose are willing to rule everything. But my nation is a natural born freedom fighter nation. So, we will handle them when the time comes.


reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 05:08 PM by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by jprophet420


Right now your enemies are sitting in the White House and the surrounding Government building. As far as I know the constitution is giving you the right to defend your state from any enemy who is threating your country, be it came from outside the U.S., or be inside the U.S. Fighting for your freedom is not automatically meaning that you're a traitor. And if your country is being threaten by an inner enemy, you're not a traitor if you stand up and fight against it when it is required.



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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 05:34 PM by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by Eyemagistus


The site which has the major information, the essence, the state of the declaration itself is on a legal government site (Someone detailed this already in the thread), which is stating, it's PASSED with 92 / 3. So, please tell me, where this declaration is really died?

So, until you're not proving the opposite, that it's a hoax, it can be considered as valid information.

Plus, this declaration is not a BILL and it never was. It never had a bill number and it's never going to get a bill number. Don't confuse the two. A declaration, such as this one never will be on the bill list, what you linked.

I hope you get it too.

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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 05:40 PM by Skipper1975
reply to post by jhill76



cool...
so would that state be safe from martial law?


reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 05:54 PM by Anonymous ATS
The bill in question is HJR 1089 at the close of session it was still in rules check the web server for the ok legislature webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us...

dead but could be reintroduced or by governors decree a special session could revive it .

At this time basicly the bill is dead !



reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 05:57 PM by toasted
reply to post by Skipper1975




"" so would that state be safe from martial law? ""


are you kidding?....







the feds couldn't care less what the states rights are.......


reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 06:02 PM by Grambler
reply to post by Eyemagistus



I hate to ager but your probably right. If you look, this was passed in March. That means because it didn't show up on the list of vetoed or signed bills buy the governor, it must have died in committee. I think the reason people are ignoring you is that they want you to provide evidence that it died in committee (which I can't find), but everyone is missing that this was signed in March, and it doesn't show up in the June posting that you've posted, which shows all bills signed and vetoed.

I could be wrong, but it seems highly probable that the bill died.


reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 06:11 PM by sc2099
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to
post by N1cotine



Sounds like a progressive State to me

Just sayin.


This is exactly what I'm sayin as well. THIS is real progress that would make any modern so-called "Progressive" feel the chills of someone walking on their grave.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by y2presley



But the "conservatives" are no better. Bush is certainly no champion of liberty.



GW Bush may be a Republican but he is NO Conservative.

and p.s. I totally agree with your Civil War rant...

The Civil War was never about slavery. That is revisionist history at work. The Civil War was about states exercising their sovereign right to decide the issue for themselves. The Federal government overstepped their Constitutional authority on the issue, the southern states ceseded and lost their sovereignty in their defeat against Federal forces.


Truth and more Truth, Jack.


reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 06:26 PM by Dark Crystalline
Okay. I've made a bit research to prove that this is not a hoax.

And here is something, which is proving this JOINT RESOLUTION is NEVER DIED as the gentleman is trying to tell us above, and it's still EXISTING...

webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us...

On this page...
Click on Current Status
Set Measure Type to Joint Resolutions
Then Click on Retrieve

So if everything goes right, this is what you will get, with the page will start and there is a nice list along with it...

Session:2008 Regular Session;
Active Status:All;
Measure Types:HJR;
With Action: On Any day;

In the list search for HJR-1089 and check it's state.

This Joint Resolution is existing, do anyone like this or not. There are few in the list, which died in front of the committee, but this Resolution is not one of them.

I hope this is going to clear everything before those ones, whose are claiming this is a hoax to protect their world, surrounding by delusions.

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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 06:33 PM by Grambler
reply to post by Dark Crystalline



For the record, I believe 9-11 was an inside job. I'm not trying to derail the thread or anything, and I'm not delusional, I just did a little fact checking, thats all. I don't care if information I find supports or negates my beliefs, I'll post it because everyone has the right to make up there own mind.

Also, I'm glad to hear that its not dead, and I think we should all try to contact the congresspeople of Oklahoma and encourage them to get it finalized.
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