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How do people NOT believe we are in a police state?

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posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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police state
–noun a nation in which the police, esp. a secret police, summarily suppresses any social, economic, or political act that conflicts with governmental policy.

We could change that with ``that conflicts with NWO policy``.

JFK was killed because of his opposition, Reagan was targeted because he went away from his NWO masters, Bhutto was killed because she was against the take over of Pakistan, Gandhi, MLK, Robert Kennedy were killed because of their opposition to the NWO.

When you are in the streets and just protesting, you're not a real threat to them, but if you try to go in places of power, you become a real threat to them and then they kill you. If Ron Paul would have been elected, he would have been killed. Obama is not a threat to the NWO because he is one of them.

Apple, Microsoft, Monsanto, Blackwater, Boeing... all those ECONOMIC corporations are NOT a threat to the government, they ARE the government. If you try to compete or pose a threat to them, they either buy you or ``suicide`` you.

So again, you have ECONOMIC, SOCIAL and POLITICAL restrictions, which makes the US a police state, not only the US, the US military forces are used worldwide to get rid of the NWO ennemies. Soon a final fight will come, it will be either the ``NWO resistance`` leaders are killed, or the NWO falls.




posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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A police state exists when federal and state political and police mechanisms:

Shut down media coverage after they steal an election

Serve the central government instead of serving the citizens

Enforce the policies of the central government instead of responding primarily to criminal misdeeds

Spy on and intimidate citizens

All these conditions now exist in the United States!

In a free society, police agencies respond to evidence of planned and actual criminal activity.

Police officers in a free society keep the peace; they do not investigate citizens and activities unless there is some reason to investigate.

In a free society, police do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the central government, only their action.

Citizen dissent is lawful in a free society and police agencies do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the criminal justice apparatus.

Those conditions no longer exist in the United States!

Under the former 1989 Guidelines, the FBI first had to obtain evidence suggesting some kind of criminal activity before its agents could begin investigating. Under the FBI's new May 30, 2002 revised Guidelines, FBI agents are authorized to carry out "general topical research" and retain files on this research. Specifically, agents may conduct "online searches" and visit "online sites and forums as part of such research."

The new Guidelines warn against searching "for information by individuals' names or other individual identifiers," but it's okay to search by names to locate "names of authors who write on the topic" that the agent is researching. Of course every citizen of the United States is a possible "author" of e-mail messages on a variety of subjects, so all U.S. citizens are potential "terrorism suspects" under these new guidelines.

The new Guidelines now encourage the FBI to snoop around looking for people who might be suspicious, creating files on anyone who catches their fancy. Agents can now investigate people, organizations, websites, chat rooms and forums for any reason or for no reason at all. They can enter your home without a warrant and are not required to inform you that they have invaded your home if you are not present.

All the records they create in their investigations will be placed in national databases available to all agencies now under the new "Homeland Security" umbrella. Never in U.S. history has there been such a monolithic surveillance mechanism with the terrible power to destroy American citizens' lives.

The 1989 and the new 2002 Guidelines expressly state that the FBI must not launch investigations "based solely on [citizens'] activities protected by the First Amendment or on the lawful exercise of any other [federal or Constitutional] rights." Do you see your local FBI agent as having a clear enough understanding of constitutional rights to keep him from investigating people whom he identifies as having "terrorist proclivities?"

Scores of U.S. cities are now using surveillance television camera systems to spy on citizens--shades of 1984. With video cameras perched atop buildings and poles, watching whatever American are doing, do you suppose there might be some potential for abuse in such systems? Christian Parenti's, article, "DC's Virtual Panopticon," in the June 3, 2002 issue of The Nation describes how "police in Detroit and DC have used CCTV [closed-circuit television] to stalk personal foes, political opponents and young women." Smile, you're on Kandid Kamera.

To justify its expanding obliteration of constitutional liberties, the Bush administration uses the most insane brand of logic--which should outrage American citizens:

Why did the intelligence agencies fail to detect or prevent 9/11? Because they didn't have enough money. So we'll give them billions more.

Why is the F.B.I. still failing in its fight against terrorism? Because the rights of American citizens are preventing the agency from carrying out its job. So we'll set up new Guidelines and take away more constitutional rights of citizens.

Why is it unnecessary for the Bush administration to provide records to Congress concerning Enron or prior knowledge of possible terrorist attacks? Because we're in a state of war and the executive branch must not be hamstrung by witchhunts or frivolous investigations.

The U.S. Government Spying on and Lying to Its Citizens

Between 1956-1971, the F.B.I. conducted domestic "counterintelligence programs" ( COINTELPRO) to spy on, intimidate, and radicalize political dissident groups. The F.B.I. had carried out covert operations throughout its history, but the target of the COINTELPRO operations was radical political organizations. Since the F.B.I. spied on American political dissidents, not foreign agents, "counterintelligence" was merely a cover name for the FBI activities.

F.B.I., military, and police forces have a notorious record of illegally quashing citizen dissent. Frank Morales's article, "U.S. Military Civil Disturbance Planning," in the Spring-Summer, 2000 issue of Covert Action Quarterly exposed "Operation Garden Plot."

"Under the heading of 'civil disturbance planning', the U.S. military is training troops and police to suppress democratic opposition in America. The master plan, Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, is code-named, 'Operation Garden Plot'. Originated in 1968, the 'operational plan' has been updated over the last three decades, most recently in 1991, and was activated during the Los Angeles 'riots' of 1992, and more than likely during the recent anti-WTO 'Battle in Seattle.'

"Current U.S. military preparations for suppressing domestic civil disturbance, including the training of National Guard troops and police, are actually part of a long history of American 'internal security' measures dating back to the first American Revolution. Generally, these measures have sought to thwart the aims of social justice movements, embodying the concept that within the civilian body politic lurks an enemy that one day the military might have to fight, or at least be ordered to fight."

The American government has a habit of lying to its citizens when it wants to contrive a new war.

In 1898, the sinking of the battleship Maine was the excuse for the Spanish American War

In 1915, the sinking of the ocean liner Lusitania was the excuse for World War I

In 1941, the attack on Pearl Harbor was the excuse for World War II

In 1964, the Gulf of Tonkin affair was the excuse for the Vietnam War

In 2001, the 9/11 attacks were the excuse for the "war on terrorism"

In 2003, the fictional weapons of mass destruction were the pretext for the war on Iraq

Government By Coup d'Etat and Intimidation

We know that the beginning stages of a police state exist in the United States when:

a leader is brought into power through illegal means

a national catastrophe is used as the pretext to begin a war and institute extraordinary restrictions on constitutional liberties

citizen dissent is held to be treasonous

the constitutional separation of powers is abrogated by a power-mad executive branch which controls or intimidates the other two branches of government

The US Patriot Act was enacted by a Congress that had not actually read it. The only thing representatives and senators got was a two or three page compendium from the White House press office. Nobody was actually given the time to read the provisions of the act. The White House intimidated members of Congress into passing the bill by telling them that if they refused to sign it, they'd be labeled as "unpatriotic"--something almost all members of Congress were frightened of at the time.

Lieberman, Daschle and Gephardt later wrote a memorandum stating that Congress had effectively given the Bush Administration "near dictatorial powers."

A Militarist Police State

The signs are unmistakable; the Bush regime is waging a "war against dissent," rapidly moving the United States to a total police state.

American citizens had assumed that the Patriot Act and the FBI Guidelines assured that only foreign aliens could be placed in military detention centers, unprotected by the U.S. constitution. But on June 10, 2002, an American citizen was declared by Bush, without due process, to be an "enemy combatant" and to have no constitutional protections. This American citizen was thrown into a naval brig in South Carolina.

Of course, Abdullah al Muhajir, a U.S. citizen also known as Jose Padilla, has been branded a "known terrorist" with ties to al Qaeda, so almost no one is speaking out against this abrogation of constitutional procedures. A reputed "terrorist" who is said to have been building a "dirty bomb," Padilla, a New York-born man of Puerto Rican descent, is assumed to be beyond the pale, not worthy of judicial prerogatives. But what happens when Bush or the FBI brands you as a "terrorist" because you appear to be a dissenter, denying you your constitutional rights as a U.S. citizen?

Attorney General Ashcroft explicitly stated that terrorists do not deserve constitutional protections. all they deserve are "courts" of conviction, not justice. Unfortunately, in this creeping police state, who does and doesn't receive justice is determined by Bush and his underlings. Ashcroft's successor, Gonzalez, is supporting every police state action the Bush junta is perpetrating.

The Bush administration wants us to believe that we are in an actual state of war--and therefore must operate under restricted wartime civil liberties. You can't take a government seriously when it says we're in a state of war and yet refuses to reduce the record-breaking number of immigrants it's allowing into the country each day.

All the new oversight laws the Bush administration has passed concern domestic surveillance of the American population, not restrictions on immigration or tightening the screening process to examine new arrivals in America. A man like Ashcroft is laughable when he bulldozes constitutional liberties yet refuses to allow gun ownership records to be used in the "war on terrorism."

The New American Thought Police

One of the most horrendous aspects of this incipient American police state is its portrayal as a benign patriotism. "We're going to make our nation safe from terrorists," Bush sneers. This is a part of the larger propaganda campaign to make Dubya appear a harmless dunce--someone who isn't smart enough to be a villain.

As we've seen in a previous essay the parallels between Nazi Germany and the Bush administration are striking. Bush's creeping police state is being ushered in through exactly the same means that Hitler used to overpower the German people. Along with the attacks of his brutal Gestapo thugs, Hitler achieved ultimate success when he got the people to spy and inform on one another.

So the Bush administration has recently given the new Neighborhood Watch Association and their new allies from the old AmeriCorp, $3.8 billion in government funds to create what Bill Berkowitz has termed AmeriSnitch. 1

The Bush regime's Thought Police was inaugurated by Ashcroft and Ed McMahon, with Ed portraying himself as a jolly buffoon.

But this is the farthest thing from a comedy. The American Civil Liberties Union quite correctly sees this new Neighborhood Watch initiative as part of an "ongoing pattern of erosion of basic civil liberties in America in the name of unproven security measures."

"By asking neighborhood groups to report on people who are 'unfamiliar' or who act in ways that are 'suspicious' or 'not normal,' our government is unconstructively fear-mongering, and fueling the already rampant ethnic and religious scapegoating," says ACLU President Nadine Strossen.

The most depraved aspect of this new initiative is the recruitment of young people into this reincarnation of the Hitler Youth. So in the upcoming months we'll see the buffoon-like pied piper, Ed McMahon, on TV enlisting youngsters into their friendly Neighborhood Watch Gestapo program.

Another Gestapo group jumping on the bandwagon is "Americans for Victory Over Terrorism," led by former Education secretary Bill Bennett. Representing themselves as crusaders for virtue and conservative values, this Gestapo group will wage holy war against those they brand as weakening America's resolve to fight terrorism. In his opening announcement, Bennett pledged to take this fight "to campuses, salons, oratorical societies, editorial pages and television."

"It's the height of paranoid insanity to claim we're moving toward a police state," the blissfully ignorant proclaim. "If there's a police state," they sneer, "where's the goose-stepping Gestapo in our streets?" You can see them if you look beyond the old manifestations of tyranny to the new forms. And staring you in the face are the civilian concentration camps that have already been set up.

Fortunately, we are only in the first stages of this new hellish police state and we can stop it in its tracks if we act now to form a unified, activist citizen taskforce.

There are many people in the world who support our efforts to preserve American freedom, including:

the highest ranking UN human rights official

a former presidential staff member

even some conservatives

This isn't a matter of if we decide to stop this police state in its infancy; we either stop it now or it will inevitably germinate into a full-blown monster. Now that the cabal behind Bush have stolen the 2004 election--and put in place a system to steal all future elections--we must do everything we can to struggle against the Bush II police state. Certainly, we must have the courage to point out its reality and resist it in whatever way possible.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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No...it's having MORE people in jail than free that makes for a police state. Or perhaps the adoption of checkpoints to certain areas of certain cities? www.nytimes.com...

Or the rise in violence (by) police against citizens, even when video/audio show there was absolutely NO justification in escallating force.

How about plans to use our own military on U.S. soil as civilian police when martial law is declared nation-wide?

I can go on with a great big list that gets bigger every day pointing out WHY/HOW we are a police state and it's only going to get worse!

Take for instance the Violence Against Women Act, constructed and sold as something that will protect women, but instead all it does is help fill jails/prisons because of it's loose definitions and violation of the right of due process. And now they want to expand this flawed set of laws to other countries?!

And these "Click it or Ticket" campaigns...nothing but a scam to PERMIT the police to pull you over and hopefully fulfill all their duties...which you should know are: DETAIN, INVESTIGATE, ARREST nothing more, nothing less!!

If you (even being innocent) give a police officer enough of your constitutional rights, you WILL be going to jail or traffic court for sure.

Why do you think people are starting to FILM these police??....so their 'word' against you can be openly and strongly challenged in court. It's been shown that when an officer understands 'HE' is being recorded, he begins to act like the rest of us do, not wanting to break any laws, seem like a 'good guy' but without that, they are able to violate rights YOU don't even know YOU have!

Watch this video, which may someday help you survive such an encounter



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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Lets not ask WHY the people are in prison?!


No. Let's. The majority of the people in prison today are there as the end- result of poor economic policies which they have no control over. Even the person in prison for shooting a store clerk, is there because there are not enough jobs that pay a living wage. Drug abuse is also rampant due the the frustrations of such a predicament, and drug sales are the last remaining method for many people to fortify their income to a standard greater than abject poverty.



I've smoked pot, drank alcohol, went to work, got paid, and had sex in the past week and guess what? I'm not spending the rest of my life in prison for any of that!


Lucky for you that you have not yet made yourself a known enemy of the police state. And wether or not you broke any laws is really irrelevant, but god help you if they find a bag of dope or some paraphenalia when they raid your house. No knock-knock for you...
www.abovetopsecret.com...



There is something called the Rule of Law.


If we lived under the rule of law, then the laws would be evenly and thoroughly enforced. We do not live under the rule of law, but under the arbitrary rule of a police state. When discretion is left to the officer and the court system, you no longer have the rule of law, you have whimsical decision-making based upon nothing but the opinions of the officers on the streets and the officers of the courts.





[edit on 6/15/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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The only time they are not afraid of the police is when they need help themselves.


They should be...




posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Yeah. I just got convicted of disorderly conduct for being beat up by the police on my front porch, with my own uniform and shield hanging right on the coat roack behind me. In other words, no one is safe.

How Jackinthebox got jacked-up by police

UPDATE: Jackinthebox convicted of lesser offense in police-abuse case

And speaking of no one being safe, peep this...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:39 AM
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Amazing what some people STILL believe in, is it not? Scotty, beam me up...

[edit on 6/15/2008 by SGTChas]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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If anyone here does not believe that this is a police-state, then please, tell me, what would you have to see to make you believe it? What line would have to be crossed that finally showed you clearly, that we live in a police=state?



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
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The only time they are not afraid of the police is when they need help themselves.


They should be...




Wow that video is ridiculous!! Are there any more like it? It's so hard to convince people because they only believe the news.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 12:48 PM
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Well actually, I find that the police pursue THEIR OWN truth which for me, hasn't been the real truth.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
If anyone here does not believe that this is a police-state, then please, tell me, what would you have to see to make you believe it? What line would have to be crossed that finally showed you clearly, that we live in a police=state?


Because there are isolated incidents of police brutality I don't believe that I live in a police state. Police have crossed the line as long as there have been police. Sobriety checkpoints, seat belt laws, all of those things mentioned in this thread do not make a police state, they make a nanny state. Which we do live in.

What would make me believe I live in a police state? Unannounced searches in my house. Having to pull out papers while walking down the street. A Memorial Day sobriety checkpoint that lasts until November. Having my travel restricted entirely. When all media outlets have been taken over by the government and the free flow of ideas ceases to exist. When I get my mail and it's been censored. When people I know just disappear in the middle of the night. When I can't even trust my family because they might be an informant. I can go on and on with this. We're not even close to living in a police state. Try this on for size:


Wikipedia
The Stasi infiltrated almost every aspect of GDR life. In the mid-1980s, a network of civilian informants, Inoffizielle Mitarbeiter (IMs, Unofficial Collaborators), began growing in both German states; by the time East Germany collapsed in 1989, the Stasi employed an estimated 91,000 employees and 300,000 informants. About one of every 50 East Germans collaborated with the Stasi — one of the most extensive police infiltrations of a society in history. In 2007 an article in BBC stated that "Some calculations have concluded that in East Germany there was one informer to every seven citizens." [1] Additionally, Stasi agents infiltrated and undermined West Germany's government and spy agencies.

The Stasi monitored political behavior among GDR citizens, and is known to have used torture and intimidation to mute dissent. During the Peaceful Revolution of 1989, Stasi offices were overrun by enraged citizens, but not before the Stasi destroyed a number of documents (approximately 5%)[2] When the remaining files were published for review, many people learned that their friends, colleagues, spouses, and relatives had regularly filed reports with the Stasi. These wounds on civil society have not yet entirely healed.


That's a police state.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Wow, I got to say you got one up on me, I've never been tazed.


I have another story of getting a disorderly. Last year I was in Pittsburgh for a metal show at a small club in the suburbs. I had a couple of drinks, and got in a mosh pit. All of us in the pit were grabbed by security and told we had to stay behind a bar that was set up.

So I complied. After a while, I went up to the bar and ordered a drink. Now I admittedly was a little drunk, but I wasn't that bad. The bartender took my money, and then handed me the drink. Before I could even grab the glass, a security guy took it and said I was too drunk to drink it. I said fine but I wanted my money back, and we started to argue.

Before I knew it I was thrown face down on the ground. A cop that was stationed at the event had did this, with no warning whatsoever. He then cuffed me, and got me too my feet. I was bleeding quite a bit from the nose, and I asked the cop for something to clean off the blood because it was going in my mouth. He said, "You're the toughguy that wanted to start some s**t, so now you got some s**t."

He took me outside and started to slam me off the wall. He kept calling me a fa**ot for how I was dressed (I was wearing metal clothes) and saying that I was what was wrong with society, etc.

At this point, I told him one of the few people that were standing around was my friend, and they had my phone and were recording it all. He IMMEDIATELY cleaned the blood off my nose, and then started being a gentlemen, telling me he felt bad but I shouldn't have resisted.

I was taken to a jail cell, where I sat for 3 hrs until my friend picked me up. I was cited for disorderly conduct. At about 2 am, another officer came in. He was joking with me, and we were actually talking about hunting etc, just passing time. When my friends finely got me, he pulled me aside and told me to make sure I fought the charges.

I decided to do that, and when I showed up in front of the judge, he was the only officer there. Before I could give a statement, that officer did. He told the judge I was "a nice young guy" and that it was all a misunderstanding, so the judge dropped the charges.

He then walked with me out of the court, and told me that the cop who arrested me was hated by most of the force. He told me the only reasons the residents of that town allowed the club to be put in was because they were promised revenue from arrests, and that they were obligated to arrest 4 people a night. He also told me that if they couldn't find anyone to arrest, they would literally just get security at the club to harass someone so they could get a reaction to arrest them.

The experience taught me a lot. It showed me just how violent cops could be, and how some of them are the scum of the earth. It also gave me a lot of respect for the ones who do their job right. But most importantly, it showed me that you can be arrested anytime for anything.

The worst part is most of my friends have a very similar story. I've realized because I'm young, and because I dress a certain way, I can be targeted easily. No one is outraged, because they assume I deserve it because of my age and how I look. And I know I don't have is as bad as others. Anyone who doesn't think minorities are targeted more are crazy. But everyone is blind to the problem until it affects them.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;

And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;

And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;

And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

Pastor Martin Niemoller



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 01:26 PM
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Unannounced searches in my house.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also keep in mind that un-announced searches are perfectly legal now. They don't even have to tell you they've been there. I know one person directly who has video of agents in his house while he was on vacation. Because he was trying to publish a book.



Having to pull out papers while walking down the street.


I don't know how it is in other parts of the country, but here in NY you must present a state-issued photo ID on demand, wether or not you are driving.

Then there is this...





A Memorial Day sobriety checkpoint that lasts until November.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here in NY there are roadblocks set up all the time. Sometimes they call them "sobriety checkpoints" but other times they are called "traffic safety corridors" to check for bad tires and overdue inspection stickers.



When all media outlets have been taken over by the government and the free flow of ideas ceases to exist.






When I get my mail and it's been censored.


Perfectly legal for them to do now under the Patriot Act.



When people I know just disappear in the middle of the night.


It's started already.




Government lawyers told federal judges that the president can send the military into any U.S. neighborhood, capture a citizen and hold him in prison without charge, indefinitely.

source


And here's the thread on that...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Try this on for size...


This was local news for me...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Let me finish with this litte number...




posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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I'm surprised you didn't get more of a hard time from the bouncers. They don't need any probable cause like the police do.

I actually worked in a building once, where it stated in the post orders, that visitors were required to wear two pairs of socks "for safety reasons." Of course, no one knew the rule, but it gave me justification to search someone, kick them off the property, arrest them if they gave me a hassle, etc. But really, that wasn't necessary anyway. Legally, I could make up the rules on the spot. My word is law on a property I have been hired to secure.

Some properties have a lot of skateboarders coming around all the time, if you have a parking lot or stairs for them to skate. Now I used to skate a bit, so I tend to be sympathetic. I also am a firm believer that you catch more flys with honey than vinegar, and that repsect is a two-way street. But one night a kid refused to leave, since the "no skateboarding" wasn't posted. Long story short, he wound up in jail on felony assault charges.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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It is important to note that the US prison population has been growing exponentially.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by PistolPete



Wikipedia
The Stasi infiltrated almost every aspect of GDR life. In the mid-1980s, a network of civilian informants, Inoffizielle Mitarbeiter (IMs, Unofficial Collaborators), began growing in both German states; by the time East Germany collapsed in 1989, the Stasi employed an estimated 91,000 employees and 300,000 informants. About one of every 50 East Germans collaborated with the Stasi — one of the most extensive police infiltrations of a society in history. In 2007 an article in BBC stated that "Some calculations have concluded that in East Germany there was one informer to every seven citizens." [1] Additionally, Stasi agents infiltrated and undermined West Germany's government and spy agencies.

The Stasi monitored political behavior among GDR citizens, and is known to have used torture and intimidation to mute dissent. During the Peaceful Revolution of 1989, Stasi offices were overrun by enraged citizens, but not before the Stasi destroyed a number of documents (approximately 5%)[2] When the remaining files were published for review, many people learned that their friends, colleagues, spouses, and relatives had regularly filed reports with the Stasi. These wounds on civil society have not yet entirely healed.


That's a police state.


Yes it is, and it’s exactly what’s happening here in the USA. Why else would homeland security consult with Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi, who has since passed away?
www.dissidentvoice.org...

Seems the FBI wants in on the act as well.
blogs.abcnews.com...

And let’s not forget the Total Information Awareness business, which was pushed underground by public opposition, but apparently still exists.
www.aclu.org...

It seems that all this is beginning to bear fruit, as neighborhood watch groups now do much more than just watch and report, as I and many thousands of others can attest.
www.thehiddenevil.com...

It IS happening here, you just have to have eyes to see it, particularly if you've not yet experienced it first hand.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 10:47 PM
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Are there any more like it?


Here are a few different pieces that I have at hand at the moment. BE ADVISED - Explicit content

Orlando cop shoves woman downstairs

Sounds like he has some problems at home that are affecting him on the job...

Same Orlando officer on answering machine messages

This woman was being difficult, but did it warrant whatever happened to her when the cop turned the camera off? He was fired but later reinstated.(Sorry, I only have an edited version, but the cop did indeed turn the camera off, as seen in the full length video posted in a thread here somewhere.)

www.youtube.com...

Another copy

One of the very few videos that actually make it to the public eye, and even rarer still is that the officer actually got "sold out" by his department...

www.youtube.com...

There are many more out there as well. Happy hunting.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:23 PM
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Here is some evidance that we are living in a police state -
www.abovetopsecret.com...

With the information provided below, does this not suggest a soon to be police state? For example the Cato institute released a study called Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America by Radley Balko.

www.cato.org...

In it they state that in 1997 alone the pentagon handed out 1.2 million pieces of military equipment to local police departments. In Jasper Florida, a city with a population just under 2000 people and hasn’t has a murder in under 14 years were given military grade M16 machineguns. The report goes onto say that in Wisconsin alone during the 1990’s local police departments were given nearly 100,000 pieces of military equipment valued at more then 18 million dollars.

Police state: en.wikipedia.org...


When a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over social, economic and political life of the population, especially by means of a secret police force which operates above the normal constraints found in a liberal democracy.


‘Secret police force’ – the police who cover their faces and don’t where badges or have name tags that identify themselves incase they do something wrong and need to be held accountable.

www.counterpunch.org...


There are now 17,000 local American police forces that are armed with rocket launches, bazookas, heavy machine guns, all kinds of chemical sprays, in fact some of them have tanks. You now have local police departments that are equipped beyond the standard of American heavy infantry.


[edit on 15-6-2008 by andre18]



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