Whats the big deal? Or is there one? Presidents down through history have often belonged to the Mason's. Would people be more comfortable if they all had belonged to a math club?

That would have helped when they were reviewing the deficit that year. Doh!

No I know that grip, and its not masonic.

Thanks for the link. I see the man in a whole new light. A man of peace.

Rockpuck, thank you for your insights, I am glad that you were not offended. You have to admit the the grasp was out of the ordinary, and possibly some sort of secret handshake, right?

Cdoug, I think that it was those images that lead me to believe the handshake was Masonic. Either posted here, or on some other site.

I honestly respect both your opinions, but still feel that the handshake was weird. He shook several people's hands in a normal manner, and then shook that man's hand in almost a 'jive' or gang-banger way. It does not appear to me to be accidental, or as a grasp to hold on to McCain, to me it appears that he initiates the weird hand gestures. Masonic or not, the motions seem organized and with intent, at least to me. I guess that is why I posted the thread....

Illahee, what is the grip? If you don't feel comfortable posting, U2U me, its like a glass shard in my mind. Although it would probably help us all in the long run.

Also, anyone know who the man was? He was front row at that Town Hall. I think it was at Federal Hall in New York City. Anyone recognize him?

DocMoreau

Yes, it was an odd handshake indeed, nothing I have ever seen. I would not be surprised if it involved some kind of fraternal organization or something.. Not Masonry, but perhaps something.

Put your eye glasses on Rockpuck....pitiful

Originally posted by cdoug1
Put your eye glasses on Rockpuck....pitiful

EH... excuse me?

I am a Master Mason, I know Masonic handshakes, when I go to Lodge I do it my self personally about a dozen times.

That was not a Masonic handshake in any way. So, mr. know it all, tell me what it was since I apparently do not have my glasses on. (I actually do by the way..)

As well as I am...get a better pair of glasses.

That I doubt. That is not a Masonic handshake. McCain is not a Freemason.

Please guys. No tit for tat on this.

cdoug has an interesting point if you step out side the great 'Mason' debate here at ATS. He provided a link to a website that has scans of seemingly 'old' images of 'Masonic' handshakes, etc. He believes vehemently that these sorts of handshakes are 'Masonic' because of it, and other sources with similar information. If that information is not about Freemasonry, which Rockpuck vehemently denies on behalf of himself and his brotherhood, what is it about?

Obviously someone somewhere linked the two for some reason, and the actions of John McCain and that man seemingly support a weird hand grip sequence, out of the norm for everyday citizens and Masons alike. We have photographic evidence of something strange, and are spending our time with a spitting contest.

I would think if that is indeed not a Masonic, or Freemasonic handshake, and there is 'evidence' out there otherwise, Rockpuck, and your fellow ATS Masons would be working their darndest to find who that group is that uses this handshake, and how John McCain plays into their hands so to speak. Then again, if it is a handshake that is 'Masonic', I would expect ATS Masons to tacitly deny the hand grips, and then do nothing to expose the group behind the grips. Perhaps flat out lying in the process...

Perhaps the initiated here at ATS can explain why Fox News caught this clip, and then the still of the hand grip was used on the Youtube clip.

If it is the handshake of any secret organization, especially one that is not just the Masons, I do not want John McCain to be our president. I don't care if it is the secret handshake of enlightened Buddhists.

I am surprised that this thread has not had more dialogue going on. You would think that John McCain committing an unknown secret handshake with another man at a Town Hall that was supposed to be for independent voters would get more hype at the number one Conspiracy website on the internet. Not even one of the paid Obama bashers that have been trolling around has chimed in... I would think they would have tried to bury this thread by now.

DocMoreau

You can do a quick google and see what a real Masonic handshake is. You can find pictures of Freemasons in full regalia doing the handshake. McCain I don't know what that was, but it was not Masonic in any way.. and McCain is not a Freemason. It does not matter was some ignorant poster says by linking pictures and talking about that which he doesn't understand, because it's black and white and no in between. McCain is not a Freemason.

And no, I do not, nor do any other Masons really care why McCain shook the guys hand. Not really important is it, maybe I am biased because in my learning I have found Secret Societies rarely stay secret and rarely have an effect on anything.

No Karl that is called the Lions Paw. I have never once met a Freemason and used the Lions Paw lol.. It's usually the "grip of a Master Mason" which is basic enough.. In the video, that is also not the Lions Paw, and it is no where close to the Grip of a Master Mason.

Me thinks some people over analyze..