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Iraqi Parliament's Push for Sovereignty

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posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:16 AM
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Iraqi Parliament's Push for Sovereignty


www.truthout.org

Last week, for the first time, two Iraqi members of Parliament (MPs) testified before the House Foreign Affairs Committee. They spoke bluntly.

"The anarchy and chaos in Iraq is linked to the presence of the occupation, not withdrawal from Iraq," Nadeem Al-Jaberi, an MP and co-founder of the Al-Fadhila party, testified.
Under questioning by Republican Congress members, Al-Jaberi repeatedly renounced the "success of the surge," and added, "What we strive for is establishing a balanced relationship between the two countries. But nothing of this could be made possible until the troops withdraw from Iraq."

In fact, Al-Jaberi told Truthout, not only do most Iraqis strongly oppose the kind of agreement that President Bush hopes to negotiate with Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, which would keep US troops in Iraq on a long-term basis; they see a complete troop withdrawal as a precursor to any diplomatic negotiation.
(visit the link for the full news article)



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posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:16 AM
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The papers this morning were saying that the so-called security treaty has been rejected by the Iraqi Parliment and that the odds were against any further deal during the bush administration.

This is good. The United States has got to understand that the future of any stablity in Iraq does not lie in continuing occupancy but in mutual partnerships where both sides are treated as equal partners.

The security treaty was not in that spirit at all and was more than anything a last gasp push for empire in a day where empires are a thing of the past.

www.truthout.org
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:24 AM
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Wow!thats weird the news just reported that Bush just entered negotiations with the Iraqi govt so they could stand on their own.This report was on CNN about an hour ago.They also said that support for the US is improving in Europe though not as high yet as before the war.Also 85 per cent of Japan were following US elections closely.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:24 AM
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It's amazing how little coverage this is getting in the media. Or maybe amazing is the wrong word, 'suspicious' would describe it better.

What's happening in Iraq now with this treaty puts the lie to everything we've been told by our government about the reasons and objective for us being in Iraq. How can we say we're there 'liberating them' when we're trying to force them into a deal that basically gives us full control over their country?

We're 'liberating them' from that nasty oil and any rights they could expect to have in their own country...



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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There is one course of events i can sadly see - the `New` Iraqi army opening fighting the US occupation troops , with the militia`s openly engagaing them - whilst suddenly Saudi Arabia retract all support for using there country in reply to all the hate rhetoric against them being spouted by washington....

how quickly can the US recover its men from the beach under fire?


whilst that is the worst case senario - read between the lines , only 1 country in the ME actually wants the US there now - everyone else wants them to go home.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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You know the more this goes on the more I believe that this administration even doesn't know why it invaded Iraq either.

It was just a spasm of blind beligerence and everything else has been nothing more than an attempt to justify it.

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posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:44 AM
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Grover, you should head over to the 'BBC Uncovers Lost Iraq Billions' thread and you'll find a post on the last page with instructions to install a proxy server program into Firefox. Do that and then go to the BBC iPlayer website to watch the Panorama documentary.

About halfway through it drops the bombshell on the oil leases given out in the Kurdish tribal area of Iraq. Something like $5.4 TRILLION in oil with the biggest leases given to the guy who has been backing the Bush family for decades and just gave $35 Million to Bush's Presidential library.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:48 AM
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I have firefox on my home imac but I am at the library... I am on line at home when my neighbor has his wifi up and running... he turns his modem off when he's not home though... damnit.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:51 AM
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uk.reuters.com...



AMMAN, June 13 (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said on Friday talks with the United States on a long-term security pact were at a stalemate because of U.S. demands that encroached on Iraq's sovereignty.

The United States and Iraq are negotiating a new security deal to provide a legal basis for U.S. troops to stay in Iraq after Dec. 31, when their United Nations mandate expires, as well as a separate long-term agreement on political, economic and security ties between the two countries.

"We have reached a deadlock, because when we started the talks, we found that the U.S. demands hugely infringe on the sovereignty of Iraq, and this we can never accept," Maliki said, speaking in Arabic to journalists during a visit to Jordan.

The talks have been taking place behind closed doors. U.S. officials have refused to be drawn on their content other than to say the agreement will have no secret annexes and that it will be open to scrutiny by the Iraqi parliament.

In his first detailed comments on the talks, Maliki said Iraq objected to Washington's insistence on giving its troops immunity from prosecution in Iraq and freedom to conduct operations independent of Iraqi control.

"We can't extend the U.S. forces permission to arrest Iraqis or to undertake the responsibility of fighting terrorism in an independent way, or to keep Iraqi skies and waters open for themselves whenever they want," he said.

"One of the important issues that the U.S. is asking for is immunity for its soldiers and those contracting with it. We reject this totally."


Of course they are rejecting it... if they accept it every one of them is dead meat.




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