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Do you believe John Lears stories?

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posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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I recently listened to a few hours worth of interviews with John Lear on the Coast to Coast AM radio show. The things he talked about certainly went against EVERYTHING taught in schools about astronomy and whatnot.

If you've heard some of his interviews, do you believe the things he claims are true or do you think he's nuts?

He certainly has credentials in his field and is apparently a well respected individual.




posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:12 AM
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Let's just say I reserve judgement. His accomplishments as a pilot are without a doubt worthy of respect. His accomplishments as a UFO investigator are, hmmmm, less so. He hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. As for some of his other ideas...the dreamcatcher on the moon or where ever it is, a breathable atmosphere on the moon, etc...the less said the better.

So as you see, my reviews are decidedly mixed.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:16 AM
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I think John Lear is sane and loves attention (I believe the term is megalomaniac?)! He is well aware that perhaps .001% of all the nonsense he speaks is legit, but he enjoys telling a good tale.

Can you say disinfo agent??



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by MrChipps
If you've heard some of his interviews, do you believe the things he claims are true or do you think he's nuts?




Since Lear is a member here I do not think other members are allowed to express any personal, negative opinions about him. I.e., if you say that Mr. Lear is nuts you will be reprimanded.

That said, in my experience there are certain people who simply cannot accept the fact that their lives are ordinary, especially when they are sons or daughters of people who were considered extraordinary. These people, in trying to live up to their mommy or daddy's expectations, often fall short and need to compensate in some other way. Sometimes they concoct extraordinary tales and having secret information just because they crave attention.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:19 AM
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He makes claims of a breathable atmosphere on several planets. I was just looking at the panoramic view from mars (the one with the human figure) and noted that the sky was blue.

See but that's what I'm saying. What if everything being taught to us is a lie. Part of the cover up?

It's impossible for us as regular citizens to find out for our selfs. We just take for granted that what we're taught is the truth.

I believe. What's the harm?


[edit on 13-6-2008 by MrChipps]



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:30 AM
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I'm not afraid to make a personal observation of John...and I have done so many times in the past. He is a very intelligent man, but some of his theories are borderline COOKOO!. Mr lear does have an account here, but after a little infighting, he left....the reason is here somewhere, do some digging and you will find it.

I don't believe he means ill by his theories, I just believe he had got himself in so deep with some of his comments and theories, that he can't dig himself out, so he just keeps digging.

I take everything he sais now with a grain of salt...no, check that, a shaker of salt, as he comes up with wild theories, but refused to debate them seriously, and will just take offence if you offer an opinion that does not coincide with his.

But, the man still owed me a dinner, John...you there? You asked, and I accepted, so I'm still waiting. ;-)



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by MrChipps


I believe. What's the harm?


[edit on 13-6-2008 by MrChipps]


there is absolutely no harm in believing. But, as I do, wouldn't you think it better to listen to different theories, do your own research, and come to your own conclusion?



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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Well while I'm not one to separate truth from fiction... as it is a big world we live in, believing that there is more outside the realms of what we are told and so come to love and know is half of the battle, just the fact of thinking outside the box usually puts you outside of it, which can make you be labeled as a "kook" "spook" or whatever on here.. at least it is making you think.

Honestly I never knew much of Mr. Lear until I spent some time on this board, and I also reserve judgement on some of the theories he proposed... they did make me think, and in doing so I did my own research and drew my own conclusions from them, some of them opened alot of doors that I would have been ignorant to seeing had it not been for him.

Far out? Yes, but sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction they say...

Welcome aboard!

~telemetry~



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 01:21 AM
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Considering John Lear has said on occasions he enjoys "stirring the pot" and that sometimes he doesn't even believe the things he says.

I think you can pretty much see what he's trying to do from there



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 01:28 AM
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Just to let you know you can see some interviews with John If you have not seen them before

I do like alot of things he said but i'm not 100% sure if it's all correct

www.projectcamelot.org...



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 01:44 AM
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If you want to know about John Lear a bit more here is a Link.

Here is two Q & A 1..Q & A 2 from ATS where he answered questions!!!

And one of his threads...



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:58 AM
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He has always lacked proof and has allot of assumptions and high tales that mean nothing without proof, and the ole story he was telling about the 911 incident being done by holograms was ridiculous!



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by MrChipps

If you've heard some of his interviews, do you believe the things he claims are true...


Hell to the no.



He certainly has credentials in his field and is apparently a well respected individual.


Credentials given to him by himself and unverifiable by others.

He told me there were people living on Venus. I asked him what proof he had of this and he said he remote viewed it.
Wrong answer.
You can't back up a theory with another questionable theory. He seems to do this alot.

[edit on 6/13/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 10:25 AM
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I think Mr. Lear is one of those humans that are "outside the norm" and for whatever reason..only he knows.

I myself read what he says like I would watch a bugs bunny cartoon. It is plain as day if you "feel yourself caution his words" then your on the right track.

see the post here I posted about others that lead people to the cliffs (and over)

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
He told me there were people living on Venus. I asked him what proof he had of this and he said he remote viewed it.


Mind showing me where Lear said he remote viewed it? Maybe he did and I missed it, but I'd like to see your statement verified because it wouldn't be fair to put words in someone else's mouth.


Peace



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Love

Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
He told me there were people living on Venus. I asked him what proof he had of this and he said he remote viewed it.


Mind showing me where Lear said he remote viewed it? Maybe he did and I missed it, but I'd like to see your statement verified because it wouldn't be fair to put words in someone else's mouth.


Peace


I didn't put those words in his mouth. He did. I couldn't think of something that ridiculous on my own if I tried. I don't have our exact conversation as it was in U2U, but there is a whole thread on this:

Will the Real Planet Venus Please Stand Up

And if you can read John Lears stance on Venus and accept it with sanity, then be my guest. To each his own I guess.

[edit on 6/13/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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Yeah, I'll get to that thread when I have a year freed up.

Just as long as everybody knows that what you've said is hearsay since it was allegedly said in a U2U discussion you had with John, I have no problem. I don't recall him ever saying he personally remote-viewed Venus.

Peace



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Love
reply to post by Mad_Hatter
 


Yeah, I'll get to that thread when I have a year freed up.

Just as long as everybody knows that what you've said is hearsay since it was allegedly said in a U2U discussion you had with John, I have no problem. I don't recall him ever saying he personally remote-viewed Venus.

Peace



Okay, well since you seem bent on singling me out and insisting I am putting words in his mouth, even though you refuse to read, here is another thread:

Remote Viewings of Venus

I believe in this thread he says he held a class on remote viewing venus and posts his own remote viewing certificate that he attained.



[edit on 6/13/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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Lear makes me laugh lol. He gives me the impression that he's just screwin' with people's .s and he loves it. I could be wrong, but I think he just loves to tell stories.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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I think you're taking it the wrong way, I'm not singling you out at all, just being fair. There's nothing wrong with that, is there?

Peace



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