Has satanism infiltrated "Christian" rock?

Originally posted by orangetom1999
reply to post by Titen-Sxull

 

The sun disc or the sun disc with the rays coming out of the disc is not a accident on the Japanese flag.

Once I began to understand the significance of this..I gave up all holidays and all birthdays....especially christmas. All days belong to my Lord..and not to me. Mind you now..this does not in any way make me better than anyone else...not possible. It does however make me aware of much out here...designed to keep people on a particular treadmill..not of thier making.

Birthdays ..including christmas are a pagan custom. Never were Christian or Hebrew in nature. This knowlege itself makes a joke out of this christmas album once you know.

Dont worry...most "Christians" out here havent a clue and dont ever want to get even close to a clue.

Jesus the Christ for remission of Sins is not the sun god. Not possible.

Maria Stardust on page 1 of this thread makes an excellent post about the art directors. And the sad truth is that many Believers are not well versed in Occult symbolology and patterns of operation....even mathematics. So it would be very easy to accomplish this through marketing strategys.

To my knowlege..there are no symbols for a Christian..not crosses, fishs, birds or anything. If you do not have the Holy Ghost working within you ...no symbols are going to cut it. And there is no symbol for the Holy Ghost.

The cross is the symbol of pagan fertility..the male vertical and the female horizontal. The intersection of the male and female principles. It never was Christian. He was crucified on a pagan fertility cross.

This informations can be found in books like the Two Babylons by Alexander Hyslop for those inclined to heavy reading. Same with the origins of most of our Holy Days.

Before closing I will say it once again....Jesus the Christ for Remission of Sins is not the sun god.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Perhaps you have seen the untainted version of Christ, but once the Romans got hold on Christianity it really went downhill, pagan holidays, occult symbols, and yes the incorporation of various sun God elements into the story of Jesus. If the rising sun on the Japanese flag is important than what about the "solar" halo over depictions of Jesus? While Jesus may not be a full sun deity he certainly shares characteristics with many of them... Christmas and the like are based on pagan festivals which the Church, rather than altering them, merely superimposed their own stamp of approval on and called them Christian...

[edit on 16-6-2008 by Titen-Sxull]

What this whole thing boils down to is that there are preachers who are worried about Christain Rock becouse the musicians reach young people better than they do. The more young people listen and start reading the Bible on their own instead of having Rev Billy Bob tell them what the Bible says, the less power thru followers Rev Billy Bob has. It's all about power folks. The more followers, the more money and power these preachers get. The more people start to question and read and realize that you do not get

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Titen-Sxull,
I quite agree with your position above here with the exception that you did not take it far enough.

What most peoples dont realize or know enough Scripture to think through is that any church doing such conduct as you describe is in fact mixing leven with unleven, new wine with olde wine. This is not Christianity. It cannot be. It is the appearance of Christianity. Appearances is also a term for a Counterfit. Do you understand this important distinction??
Do not get me wrong here...there are other religious counterfit systems out here than just Rome. It is up to the individual to teach himself to spot a counterfit.

Another name for a counterfit..it Hidden, Concealed..esoteric...Occult. They are quite religious..yes..but under different rules and guidelines than those of which most peoples are aware. Occult counterfits are also of a long pedigree of infiltrating conduct...by concealed methods.

What I find very intresting and at times very humorous is that so many on these threads are using a counterfit system as fodder to debate Believers and attempt to put them in a box. In seriousness I ask...Are you able to grasp this concept??

Once one knows what it is..it does not make good nonsense when you see someone using a counterfit template to debate Christians who know.
However ..to be fair about this...many Christians are in fact dumb as a box of rocks about everything including Christianity. Amazing but quite true. This knowlege does not make me or anyone else who knows ..better than anyone else..but it does make us quite different...Salty too.

I have quoted this before on ATS/BTS and will do so here again for purposes of illustrating my point.

There is a section in the Book of John concerning a woman caught in adultery...in the very act. This takes place in the book of John, Chapter8, verse 3.

What I find intresting about this verse is that most preachers do not take this verse far enough in teaching Christians but use this mostly as a verse for forgiveness..where Jesus tells the woman .."Go and sin no more."

But for the purpose of illustrating a counterfit doctrine and such Occult substitution principles..let us watch closely as to what happened here with this woman caught in adultery ..in the very act.

First off they were not in any way concerned with the woman caught in adultery. They wanted to discredit Jesus in his doctrine and practices.

The problem here stems from the Pharisees being proud that they kept the Law of Moses in all parts. They were boastful of this and their knowlege of the Olde Testament. The Olde Testament states that "They both Shall be Stoned." Not one accused..but both. The Pharisees only brought a woman caught in adultery.....in the very act. They did not bring the man. The doctrine the Pharisees were keeping said women get stoned for adultery and men dont.
They had secretly and Occultly switched doctrines and practices and overlaid the new secret doctrine over the Law of Moses ..passing it on to the public as if it was the Law of Moses when it was in fact a counterfit doctrine and practice.
As a result the Pharisees were disobedient and had in fact switched gods from the God of the Law to the counterfit god. 'They told no one of this. This is the Occult portion. Hidden ..concealed..esoteric..known only to a chosen few.
This is very easy to do if one does not know or is easily seduced..misdirected...etc etc. A counterfit can easily be overlaid on another principle..the bait and switch.
A counterfit is not the opposite of a thing but as close to the real thing as possible so as to pass for the real thing even though it is not the real thing.
There are counterfits all around us once we know for what to look.
But to know a counterfit ..you must know the real thing. Otherwise you will have great difficulty spotting the counterfit.

Hope this helps illustrate the point I am trying to make. This can be applied to music as well.

You see Tixten-Sxull..I also know that Classical Music(Wagner, Motzart etc) contains much of this counterfit fingerprint...it is not just confined to rock. Rock has no such monopoly on this practice. No insult intended to the devout rockers here. I can make the same point about Country. Same point with politics...same point with public education..since the body politic finances public education..correct???

Nonetheless...I hope you get my point about Occult counterfits. They are all around us once we know the fingerprint for what to look.

Thanks Titan-Sxull. I agree with your points you make with the exception that you did not take it far enough.

BagBane,

Strange post you made above. Musicians teach young people exactly what better than do preachers?? Precisely what religions are musicians teaching young people better than these preachers??
I am not against young people reading the Bible or reading the Bible on their own. If the Holy Spirit watches over them someone will be sent to them to help or aid in thier understanding..no problem with this. Often it is a preacher. Often a Layperson.

Also I hope you understand that Believers are not to just take the word of thier teachers and preachers..but are to check up on them to make sure they are teaching the Whole Council of God..not just fluff and feel good sugary drivel. I check up on preachers ...to see if they are teaching the Whole Council of God..not just selected parts or misdirection. I check on them to see if they are being Pharisees.

You are correct in that there is Power in this knowlege and not ignorance or counterfits. Ignorance and counterfits cannot survive if sufficient Light is put upon them.
Also none of the early churchs were wealthy churchs in monetary means.
This is often a very important indicator of what a church is or is not.

Well..we are getting a bit off topic here. Precisely what is the religion that musicians..particularly rock musicians in this instance.. are teaching young people better than are preachers. Can you elaborate on this for us??

Thanks,
Orangetom