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U.S. Plans to Kill Pirate Bay, Monitor ISPs With Multinational ACTA Proposal

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posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 05:37 PM
reply to post by Sheeper

It was an ironic post I posted
I mean I cannot just say "I don't care, US is far away", and I explained why.

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 06:05 PM

I've been all over the net since I was 3.

I have many close friends that I've never met in person (don't get me wrong though, I have a life outside the net.)

From all the people I converse with, many are pretty powerful internet users, I can say with out a doubt that all this is part of a larger plan.

The plan is simply information restriction.
The government wants people to turn to FOX News or other big media outlet to get their info. They DO NOT want people going to sites like ATS, "liberal" "radical" blogs, foreign news sites, etc etc...

Simply, if one is so inclined they can find the real story by looking at multiple sources.

This is bad for their agenda.

The first way to take control of the internet will have to be DESTROY it's underground culture. I can say without a doubt that hackers rule over the internet. The most skilled of them DO wish for freedom of information, and only wish for the best turn out for the internet. Many of those same people are associated with torrents sites, cracking communities, game hackers (when the government cracks down on this is when it gets real bad - lol,) "tv links" websites, porno (some BIG NAME sites are ran by the best of the best,) and the list goes on.

They are involved in this simply because they are doing what they do best. Running the internet underground.

Our government does not care about artists loosing money because the companies that influence the government own big entertainment labels (Universal etc), and those Companies are pimping out the artists. Most artists don't own their money. They are given access to company accounts and are given "gifts" from the label.

It's the companies that are stealing, and they don't want to loose money.
And the government helps them keep there money while furthering their agenda of information control.

This is simply MY analysis on the topic.

acknowledge it or not.

I don't care.

All the best...

posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 02:45 AM
Actually im not threatened by govt at all.They have done nothing but help us at every turn.They have protected America,free speech,and human rights all without having to impose martial law.I think its brilliant!
Mccain 08!

posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 04:52 AM
reply to post by Blaine91555

There maybe a difference between taking a car and a copyright item. Maybe a car will be gone from garage, but i still have the file. Someday we will make cars in our homes, unless these retrograde ideas about copyright turn us into oligarchs.

By the way I make music and load it up on my site for people to download anytime all the time. I find it an antitrust issue to charge for bandwith downloaded and then allow people that can pay massive prices like large record companies to get free bandwith while we get wrecked. They can't compete, so they are running with the football and crying to mommy and daddy in the house.

They are toll booth collectors on a taxpayer paid for road. Say goodbye to videos on Above Top Secret or any other conspiracy videos or Alternative news that often forces the mainstream to pay attention to stories. The Internet has kept the economy going, now, gas at $4, mortgages popped, banks crashing and now the communications network getting hacked by the diseased(political) systems, that maybe like a virus trying to infect your brain. Imagine the neurons being burned out one by one until all the brain cells die, boy that would be a fun Internet, sure!

These people are schizophrenic to try to shut down the net, or turn it into a cable tv "dumbed down" forum. Tolls represent a tax on a already taxed system. They will market this through fear, claiming dangerous things about the net. Our information communications will be ruined if this insanity passes. Why would you download my songs if your ISP WILL CHARGE YOU to get my FREE songs. Nothing can happen in that environment, the economy will go DEEPER into recession/depression.

These laws are anti-intellectual and anti-freedom. Jefferson would have always wanted a free media system, this really sounds like the war on drugs, more propaganda and useless violence and threats. Why don't you put a fence up around the whole country and annouce we're all under arrest? Why do it slice by slice, issue by issue?

posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 04:55 AM
Take down the pirate bay, they clearly have no idea what their talking about or they would know that the pirate bay is hosted on multiple severs all over the world, has been since the last time they tried to "kill pirate bay". If they take one server down the next will just take over, max. downtime would be about 2 hours with no loss of data.

posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 11:43 AM
This will not have any effect on Pirate Bay at all. The threat of ISP monitoring and traffic shaping are old news. There are ways to defeat them easily. There are plenty of open technologies that have been developed for situations when you cannot trust the channel at all (darknets, vpn tunnels, and other encryption based techniques). I find myself more worried about the newer Intellectual Property/Copyright laws and bills that are being pushed, as if the criminalization of piracy isn't enough already.

[edit on 13-6-2008 by Kluge]

posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 11:17 PM
Killing Pirate Bay will be harder than trying to get the soldiers out of Iraq.

posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 08:26 AM
In the 20's the music publishing companies which printed sheet music were terrified that the new technology of recorded discs would wipe them out. first, that didnt happen, musicians still buy sheet music, and second, were the recording companies, like columbia, bothered? not a jot. Oh how the how the wheels have turned! now the record companies are screaming blue murder. people will still buy hard cd copies of music they really want , as long as they are of higher sounding quality and artistic design.

Remember that 90% of artists on labels barely receive money to live on through the labels and are bound to crippling contracts, which keep them poor and the record companies filthy rich. BUT, even if all artists were to go to the poorhouse through pirating, thats better than the huge loss of freedon of information and information sharing which the record companies are trying to create, in order to pay their execs a lavish lifestyle. This is about your information and freedoms being restricted and controlled, forever through potential enacted law which the record companies are seeking to do.

posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:36 AM
I have a dream of a future where ever thing is this way.
every thing is pirated.
that if you wont to get food or a new TV or car.
you get it from the person who makes it.
for a good price.
and the traders and shops and tax and the Government
does not take a BIG share of it.

if all the money for soft ware goes to the one who made it.
and they dont get greedy. they who all be rich.

But we all know.
the Goverment Much take its share!
by force if need be.

the Pirates are the best weapon the people have.
it is a weapon to fight governments with.
not just the Internet. and sites like wikileaks And ATS.
this is the revolution of the future for freedom.
use it and use
strength in numbers.

posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Shar

Originally posted by ALLis0NE

The hackers will own the internet, what part of that do they not understand?

After so many seconds they will have your ip address and send the guns in. Have you thought of that?

Oh yes, because they will just kill everyone right? Then whom do they have left to manipulate and brood over?

The governments aren't going to 'send in the guns' literally or metaphorically speaking. Let them keep pushing people like they have been and its only a matter of time until people start pushing back.

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