Shocking!!!!

Here, all this time, I thought Obama was a stealth Muslim, but it turns out he's a stealth Hindu

OMG OMG!!!!

He's going to make us all wear dots on our heads!

We're all DOOOMED!

Originally posted by Djarums
I dunno... personally I'll be reviewing the candidates based on what their stances are regarding the issues.

Not who carries a rabbit's foot or whatever.

What does this sidetracking accomplish?

Great question. I think you answered your own question.

I think that Obama's own camp is fanning the flames for these side issues just for the reason you implied -they don't want Obama's stance on the issues scrutinized. Obama is far too liberal for main stream America, and by creating these side issues they can distract from his positions AND make Obama into the victim of racist smear campaigns.

I hate Obama...I believe he is another N.W.O puppet..BUT...this is the second time in 2 days that I will stick
up for him and say ...WHO CARES..

It blows my mind to think that anyone would consider this story unimportant

Originally posted by MandM
It blows my mind to think that anyone would consider this story unimportant

I believe I owe you an apology. I was one who didn't appreciate this thread. I want you to now that it was not my intent to disrespect you or your material.

My frustration was with the notion that this man's predilection for a good luck trinket should form the basis of a judgment of the man's character or candidacy. Perhaps that was your intent to explore, but I should have addressed it less obliquely than I did.

People have chosen to carry good luck charms for a very, very, long time. The things that they have chosen have ranged from the bizarre to the offensive. That Mr. Obama is one of those people doesn't seem to be noteworthy to me. It is true that purists of the Christian faith will decry such things as 'against' their belief system, and so they are, however I personally know many Christian 'religious' leaders who have 'good luck' charms of their own.

Unless there is reason to believe that this little figurine represents something more sinister than a good luck charm I can't find merit in the title you chose, in particular the phrase "Shocking" or "Hindu Idol". They seem to carry an inflammatory connotation that goes far beyond the stated 'good luck charm' purpose.

Just my opinion mind you.

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Originally posted by jamie83

Originally posted by Djarums
I dunno... personally I'll be reviewing the candidates based on what their stances are regarding the issues.

Not who carries a rabbit's foot or whatever.

What does this sidetracking accomplish?

Great question. I think you answered your own question.

I think that Obama's own camp is fanning the flames for these side issues just for the reason you implied -they don't want Obama's stance on the issues scrutinized. Obama is far too liberal for main stream America, and by creating these side issues they can distract from his positions AND make Obama into the victim of racist smear campaigns.

Well said. Your theory about Obama's supporters floating this kind of crap out there makes a lot of sense to me. I can see some more wacky types actually believing in the idea that he's a closet Muslim and anti-American because it's somewhat believable to a conspiracy theorist and would actually effect his policy as a president, but stories about the lucky charms he carries around, replete with an Old Testament Bible quote warning believers about idols? That's just silly. Almost as bad as all the nutjobs out there claiming Obama's the Anti-Christ.

Just like it turns out Democrat operatives spread the rumor about Michelle Obama going on a racist rant against "whitey", just to bait conservatives into discussing said tape and being "exposed" as race-baiters.

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There's a new "shocking" revelation about Obama nearly every day. And this one is particularly lame. Don't you know character assassination when you see it?

Let's get back to basics. Let's do a quick refresher to remind everyone here of what Obama is really doing here.

I quote from the Jewish Stone Edition of the Torah (Chumash, i.e., Bible):

"God spoke all these statements saying: I am Hashem ("the Name"), your God, Who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall not recognize the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make a carved image nor any likeness of that which is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the water beneath the earth.

You shall not prostrate yourself to them nor worship them, for I am Hashem, your God - a jealous God, Who visits the sin of fathers upon the children of the third and fourth generations, for My enemies; but who shows kindness for thousands (of generations) to those who love Me and obey My commandments."

The commentary in the Torah explains as such: "Second Commandment: Prohibition against Idolatry. This commandment comprises four separate negative injunctions: a) it is forbidden to believe in idols, b) it is forbdden to make or possess them, c) it is forbidden to worship them through any of the four forms of Divine service....d) it is forbidden to worship an idol by a means that is unique to it, even if such a method is not used for other deities, and even if the service would be considered disrespectful in any other context...

This verse prohibits not only the worship, but the manufacture of idols. A carved image is a three dimensional, accurate representation of something, while a likeness is a symbolic image, which may be either sculpted, drawn, or produced in any other way."

Obama is clearly violating the Second Commandment. Western civilization is founded on Judeo-Christian ethics, not Hindu ethics. This action of carrying an idol with him at all times is an abomination against the Lord, and our Christian and Jewish heritage.

Obama is doing this out of sheer ignorance of God's commandments, which means that he is not suitable for the highest office of the land, or because he is aware of the commandment and chooses to disobey it. Either way, he's in clear violation, and God will not be a happy camper.

You are already starting to see the wrath of the Lord as he strips away His protection for this country, which was once a land of God-fearing people, and now is rampant with idolatry, and virtually every other sin in the Ten Commandments. Just follow the news and you are starting to see the Lord's wrath unfold as he metes out punishment against a nation steeped in idolatry and other blasphemous behavior.

Our Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their grave if they knew that the nominated candidate to the Presidency carried an idol in his pocket. At least they knew the Ten Commandments.

It's high time the American people got back to basics, gang.

Soooo....

What is the significance of this?

Well at least his isnt running around Bohemien Grove,worshiping statues of Owls named Moloch.
Like some of our other politicains.

And this means what exactly?

So, Obama empties his pockets and lo and behold there is this... thing... wait for it...
A Trinket not lot which has been seen before! The world is coming to an end, apocalypse, anti-whatever, pro whatever... whatever.

Big deal...
I could care less what faith or superstitions this .. better yet or any man or woman for that matter has, and in no way do those said things mean anything to me, really. I'm more influenced by one's own integrity and devotion to the betterment of mankind than race, creed... (insert whatever you think here) and that is what makes us all human, does it not?

What would you think if this man emptied his pockets and there was a money clip filled with hundred-dollar bills? Would it make you think any different? Would it make you feel better or worse?


Like I said, big deal... this is amounting to making a mountain out of a mole hill really. If I stood before you all right now and emptied my pockets in my hands for your personal inspection, you would most likely find a couple of wheatback pennies I scrounged during operating a till for the day (I pay them back just so you know) a silver dollar for luck, a Yen... (oh noes!) and a piece of pence. Dig a little further and you might just find a small strip of paper from a fortune cookie, a worn out Zippo... and what's this....?! A small fuzzy thing... lumpy... wait, it's just a ball of lint.
(I keep them in case I need to start a fire, you know)

Just think about that for a few.

~You can judge a man by the size of his pockets, and that is fine... but to judge a man for what is in them is just plain wrong, seriously.~
~telemetry~




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Whats the big deal? I don't understand why this would be even news, Why do we waste are intellect focusing on such matters that truly do not matter.