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SAS vs Nazi Base in Antarctica 1945-6?

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posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 11:34 PM
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I do find this subject probably the most amazing of all out of that era. I have read this story before and scoured the web for more info on this subject, but it is very sparse. I personally think the key lies with Forestall and his peculiar suicide. Another is why haven't there been not one shred of physical evidence in all the years and all the countries that have explored this region? I still do believe and cling to the idea that something was there.




posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 11:51 PM
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You might like to have a look at this article to further your research!
The fact that the Illuminati gets mentioned in conjunction with Admiral Byrd's expedition is fasanating also!

www.thehollowearthinsider.com...



I was also aware of Admiral Byrd’s connections to the Illuminati and their plans for a New World Order and of his early Arctic and Antarctic explorations having been financed by their paymaster, John D. Rockefeller and his pals.


also www.thehollowearthinsider.com...


On a winter night in 1938 the German research ship “Schwabenland” cast off from a dock in Hamburg – destination Antarctica. Aboard, accompanying the ships hand picked crew, was some of Germany’s top airmen, technicians, oceanographers, biologists, meteorologist and earth scientists, all members of the First Deutsche Antarktische Expedition of 1938-1939. The people who made up the costly Antarctic expedition were under secret orders not to divulge their mission, the purpose of which little is known today.



I hope I am not going off topic (re the 'Polarmen' and the 'Nazi's involvement',) however the more facts we can shed light on, the better we able to research, yes?
H


[edit on 11-6-2008 by Havalon]



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 06:16 AM
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So the proof there was a Nazi base in Antarctica is based on an "account" by an "unnamed soldier"? Every new thread I read on this forum makes me question the sanity of the OP writers.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Totalitarian
So the proof there was a Nazi base in Antarctica is based on an "account" by an "unnamed soldier"? Every new thread I read on this forum makes me question the sanity of the OP writers.



No one has claimed proof of anything. This is merely a SAS Officer's account of a mission, as passed onto a relative. Whether you believe it or reject it - is up to you.

Welcome to ATS, I notice you registered today. May I suggest that if you hang around ATS for too long, you'll eventually start to question your OWN sanity. LOL!

Duncan



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 08:16 AM
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although I posted a reply to this thread before i have a link that show Nueschwabenland on a map of Antarctica its on GE i could post the link if you wish....no skin off my back



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 10:02 AM
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It's a claimed SAS officer's account of a mission. Nothing more. Until the story is proved accurate, it's useless as evidence.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ST SIR 86
although I posted a reply to this thread before i have a link that show Nueschwabenland on a map of Antarctica its on GE i could post the link if you wish....no skin off my back


If you could post a link to the map,that would be great!
I have been interested in the idea of a Nazi base in Antarctica for quite some time,and would love to find out more on the subject.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 11:45 AM
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This is an area of great interest. While much of the story is unsubstantiated, it ties in with other material that has been avaiable for decades. It is worth pursuing even if only partially true. How far is lake Vostok from these "supposed" bases.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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Here are a couple maps I found doing a quick google search:

map 1


strangemaps.files.wordpress.com...

map 3


Might I note, the 2nd one the most interesting

[edit on 12-6-2008 by LookingIntoIt]



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by LookingIntoIt
Here are a couple maps I found doing a quick google search:

map 1


strangemaps.files.wordpress.com...

map 3


Might I note, the 2nd one the most interesting

[edit on 12-6-2008 by LookingIntoIt]


Yes, that second link is a most interesting map indeed. For those interested in what the New York Times had to say of the 1939 Byrd expedition to 'head off' the German prescence in Antarctica, have a look at the following link:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Duncan



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 11:34 PM
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I must say this is my favorite subject of any I have come across. That link serves good, thanks Duncan.

Is there any way to attain physical copies of past NY Times to see those articles in full?

Wishful thinking???



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 11:55 PM
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Actually, there are many active volcanoes in Antarctica. All you need to do is search.


www.volcano.si.edu...

wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com...

Those two are the most basic searches.



Anyway, on to topic. Great read, Will contribute to this thread tomorrow, really tired now. Sorry!



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by LookingIntoIt
I must say this is my favorite subject of any I have come across. That link serves good, thanks Duncan.

Is there any way to attain physical copies of past NY Times to see those articles in full?

Wishful thinking???


I was wondering that very same thing myself. There is some amazing stuff in old newspapers, especially those from before WWII. Sounds like a trip to ebay is in order I guess, unless I can find them online that is.

Duncan

PS: FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INTRIGUED BY THIS ACCOUNT, YOU WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO READ THIS:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

and a warning, once you get past the first dozen pages, it really 'takes off'. It is one of the most 'far out' documents I have ever come across.

PPS: Aplogies if that document has already been discussed on ATS, I haven't bothered to check yet.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:54 AM
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i managed to locate some issues, waiting on response for some specific dates!



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by nexusmagazine

It transpired that the area near the tunnel was one of Antarctica's unique dry valleys


In other words, thousands of miles away on the other side of the continent from where they landed in Queen Maud Land ......

www.rosssea.info...

Someone didn't check they geography before writing the story



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by nexusmagazine

It transpired that the area near the tunnel was one of Antarctica's unique dry valleys


In other words, thousands of miles away on the other side of the continent from where they landed in Queen Maud Land ......

www.rosssea.info...

Someone didn't check they geography before writing the story


Seems like you didn't check yours either:

"Queen Maud Land offers a stunning landscape of bright blue ice caves and glaciers; endless, perfectly white snow fields and fang-like mountains towering above the plain white surface of the ice cap. It is a paradise of mountaineers, adventurers and nature lovers.
A very interesting area is the Schirmacher Oasis a 17 km long hilly ice-free area with several partly frozen melt-water ponds. It was named after the German aircraft captain who flew first time over this area during the Schwabenland Expedition. The Indian Scientific Station Maitri and the Russian Scientific Station Novolazarevskaya are located in this Antarctic oasis.
Also other countries like Belgium , Germany , Great Britain , Finnland , Japan , Norway , South Africa and Sweden operate Scientific Stations in the area of Queen Maud Land where metorological, glaciological, geophysical, geological, seismological, biological, medical and other research is executed."

(Source: www.antarctic-company.com...)



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 02:34 AM
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Fortunately, I was not selected to enter; that honour was bestowed on the youngest member of our unit. He proceeded inside, hesitating slightly as he struggled with the door. Once inside, a silence descended across the base, followed moments later by two gunshots.
The door was opened and the Polar Man dashed to freedom. None of us was expecting what we saw, and the Polar Man had fled into the surrounding terrain so quick that only a few token shots were fired.
Out of fear and awe at what we had seen, we all decided to go into the bunker. Go in we did, and two bodies were found. The soldier who had pulled the short straw was found with his throat ripped out, and, more heinous, the survivor had been stripped to the bones.


Hmm for SaS entering a bunker picking the smallest straw is a bit funny!
One would think from all the training they resieved! just a thought!!

But still a great story!!



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 02:35 AM
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Why does he specifically use the term 'dry valley'?

The description clearly does not match that of the Schirmacher Oasis - which is far from 'dry' even if there is, as in many other parts of Antarctica, barren, ice-free rock.

The 'unique dry valleys' are a specific geological feature. To use the term to describe any area of ice free ground would be akin, for example, to using the term 'New Zealand's unique volcanic landscape' to describe an unvegetated region in the Southern Alps ....

Notwithstanding which, maybe we can find another ice free area in Queen Maud Land that matches the rough geographic data in the story - which is the nearest we have to anything verifiable.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by Essan
Why does he specifically use the term 'dry valley'?

The description clearly does not match that of the Schirmacher Oasis - which is far from 'dry' even if there is, as in many other parts of Antarctica, barren, ice-free rock.

The 'unique dry valleys' are a specific geological feature. To use the term to describe any area of ice free ground would be akin, for example, to using the term 'New Zealand's unique volcanic landscape' to describe an unvegetated region in the Southern Alps ....

Notwithstanding which, maybe we can find another ice free area in Queen Maud Land that matches the rough geographic data in the story - which is the nearest we have to anything verifiable.


You are correct in your use of the terminology 'unique dry valleys' as evidenced by the link you cited - but I wonder if a SAS officer in the 1940s would have been referring to it in such scientific terms?.

To me, it sounds more like he is quite surprised to find an ice-free area with soil, rocks etc - with the use of the word 'unique' being what I assume it would be to a person of the 1940s of the officer class. In this case, unique would be pretty much the dictionary definition I would assume.

Duncan



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 12:00 PM
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ok here is the link i was talking about its an overlay for ge of the original map that the nazis had superimposed on to google earth one other point to mention
did you know that in german law its highly illegal for a german citizen to have one of these maps on his/her personal....from what ive read the law drops down onto them like a ton of bricks.

bbs.keyhole.com... 0



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