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Abandonned Alein Spaceship on the moon (Video)

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posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 09:48 AM
reply to post by Allred5923

I would just like to say thanks for your time you have put into this and hope you keep up the great work

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 10:10 AM
That video and "abandoned craft" are so badly faked, those that believe it to be real should hang their heads in shame.

How convenient that the camera goes all goofy just before the "craft" comes into focus. But even more convenient, is how the platform carrying the camera seems able to defy physics and stop orbiting the moon.





posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 10:16 AM
on the origional point of this thread.

This looks interesting. I don't normally venture into the UFO forums as they are usually filled to the brim with BS and fighting. But this reminded me of a Leopard Class Dropship from the game Battletech. (sorry I know Sci-Fi nonsense) but hmm...

Im interested in this alleged "ship"

Oh as far as everyone is concerned, Yes there are a lot of CGI and bogus finds in the UFO community. But not everything has to be bogus or there would be no UFO field. If everything was bogus the study would die and people would get to the point of just ignoring this topic completely. So therefor there has to be something to this or even the hoaxers wouldn't bother to hoax.

Just an idea for y'all


Edit = I can't spell for

[edit on 6/11/2008 by whatukno]

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 01:01 PM
reply to post by Allred5923
Yes that is a wild video.If you think thats wild go to youtube and a search for Mona Lisa.There is a vid of and alien body that was "suppose" to have come from that very ship on the alleged Apollo 20 mission.Is it real? I dont think so.Its possible but im not conviced thats a real alien.Great vid thou

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 04:20 PM

Here's an explanation for this video .... but nice thread

Edit: fixed the link

[edit on 11-6-2008 by baburak]

[edit on 11-6-2008 by baburak]

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 07:10 PM
"I personally apologize to all that have entered this thread, I have been some more investigating, but it all ends up at the inevitable place called "Dead-End" and I have no excuse.
Deeper research is required for such thing's, and for me to think it "Just slipped by" the NASA scientists is a little unacceptable for the multitudes.
I don't know what else to say to Y'all, but I am sorry for beating a dead dog. (So to speak.)
Thanks for the input!!!

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 07:23 PM
reply to post by Allred5923

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posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 07:43 PM
reply to post by Waitingsolong

"let me try it again for you,"

Heres the other form of the vid.:

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 07:51 PM
reply to post by baburak

that video doesn't explain much, except that over exposure can wash out detail on photo content.

The "object" is still there in apollo 17. It is a much lower resolution, however, and this leads to loss of detail. Likely due to the camera used, the lighting, or a combination (distance could impact it as well).

that response only shows a possibility, but it does little to make anything much that is definitive...not with such a low res image for comparison.

Allred, don't apologize. Denying ignorance should be applied as often to debunking as to "tinfoil hat" wearing.

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 09:15 PM
if this video is fake i would like someone to clarify how it was faked,do you think it is cgi or not saying it is or isnt,but here we have this vid,so tell me how it was faked

posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 11:49 PM
I researched this one a few months ago myself, trying to find a good refernce photo from Apollo 15. I found a really good (200mb version) that convinced me that the "ship" is merely terrain, but I can't find it now. However, this one is fairly good evidence of terrain rather than ship.


The anomaly can be found in AS15-M-0763 through 0765 and probably a few more at that site as well.

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 12:15 AM
All the videos that guy has posted are all pretty bad. The only ones he did a decent job on are the ship videos and all you have to do is look at the NASA images and then his video to see that he put too much detail into the ship. He should have made it a lot more dusty looking. instead it looks to clean in his, while everything else around it looked dusty.

You know when he's debunked, because he'll always remove the videos from Revver if you post a link to the site where it's being talked about in the comments section on the page of his videos. He does it every time. If they were real and he wanted everyone to see them, he'd leave them up.

Linuxman created a thread a while back and I posted some images in there that I took from his vids that show sparks coming off a booster or something and the sparks come from nowhere and are multi-colored. It was an obvious effect that was added. It looked like someone took one CGI video and added more effects to it and they did it very badly.

There was another I think he did where it's apparently a dead alien. Someone keeps touching it, yet they have no gloves on. If it were a real dead alien, wouldn't you want to have some gloves on when touching the body?

[edit on 12-6-2008 by nightmare_david]

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 02:37 AM
anybody with a peaceful heart can see the footage of the ship is fake.
It's a model. You can see that especially by the way the view changes as the camera moves. It was shot at very close distance, maybe a few feet in total.
whe you film something from miles, the object doesnt move that way.
Furthermore, what would be the reason for a footage of lower quality in comparison to that of the other apollo missions? This footage is worse, exposure, light, focus etc...

It's fake in my opinion ( as much as i want it to be true )

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 02:42 AM
Sorry, just to answer purevil...
It has been faked with a few models and a nice diorama.
Remember starwars ( that looked much more real than this ) was shot WITHOUT CG effects.... in a nice parking lot. CG arrives with Jurassik Park.

You can also tell the difference of quality of images between the real missions and this one.

I'm not saying apollo 20 didnt exist or the alien ship doesnt exist, i'm just saying this movie is fake.


posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 03:56 AM
Yeah that's funny you know how to bring the white man down. LOL. The best part about these videos is that they all occurred over 30 years ago. So if all these top secret missions have occurred they most likely towed that junk away. That is considering that they are real. Well that's big oil for you to keep paying at the pump for all these deep space projects. It's true they own everything.

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 04:06 AM
I add some informations regarding the location of the alleged spaceship.
In according to what claimed by W. Rutledge, the coordinates are
Nose: 17.3 deg S, 117.62 deg E; Cockpit: 17.25 deg S, 117.62 deg E; Base: 17.20 deg S, 117.62 deg E

so in according to the coordinates the object is located within the blue rectangle in the image above (white rectangle in the one below).

The apollo 15 images showing the object are

AS15-P-9625 and AS15-P-9630

Comparison between AS15-P-9625 and an alleged Apollo 20 image:

Same formation in AS17-M-2805

[edit on 12/6/2008 by internos]

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 05:04 AM
reply to post by internos

Thank you so much for taking the time to add this additional info and images, internos! I hate to see this case forgotten about.

I guess I am one of a just a handful of people who still believe that the original retiredafb at YouTube was the real deal. The later and obviously faked videos (like the Mona Lise EBE) at Revver have convinced me even more.

Someone or some group have worked hard to make sure that retiredafb (William Rutledge) now looks like a faker and hoaxer. So the info he provided in his very first videos must have been a threat to someone or some group. They want the truth hidden, buried and forgotten.

In my humble opinion.

posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 05:36 AM
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

oooo i dunno if the city is faked or not. one thing i noticed while we were scrutinizing john's moon pics and other pics of the moon was alot of webbing, nets and gridworks. that's what that city looked like, as if it were encased in netting of some kind. didn't make much sense but then we don't know a whole lot about what's going on up there at this point. what part convinced you that the city was a fake? just out of curiosity?


posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 05:38 AM
assuming the video is true , it looks like a shuttle crash. I do not think we ever sent shuttles to the moon, but you never know...


posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 05:42 AM
reply to post by undo

well.. if i would have to build a city on the Moon I would not build it the way it look on that video. My personal opinion - the moon city is a fake. However, we have this shuttle video that is very strange..

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