reply to post by 12.21.12
I would not rely solely on the bible mention of 144,000. There are some other correlations/references to it as well which might help us all get an
even broader perspective :
A baktun is 20 katun cycles of the ancient Maya Long Count Calendar. It contains 144,000 days or 400 tuns or nearly 400 tropical years. The Classic
period of Maya civilization occurred during the 8th and 9th baktuns of the current calendrical cycle. The current (13th) baktun will end, or be
completed, on 220.127.116.11.0 (December 21, 2012 using the GMT correlation). This also marks the beginning of the 14th baktun, as such a term is usually
used among Mayanists.
J. Eric S. Thompson states that when a Long Count of, say, 18.104.22.168.0 is placed in the 9th baktun, we are almost certainly committing an error, like
placing the year 2009 in the 2nd millennium. However, that practice is so well established among Maya epigraphers and other students of the Maya that
to change it would cause more harm than its perpetuation.
***Long before Jesus' Gallilean mission, Earth had already become so polluted by fallen influences that the planet could no longer be spiritually and
physically sustained. This is where the story of Sanat Kumara and 144,000 volunteers from Venus comes in. To save Earth, these high souls chose to
follow their guru in exile from a planet of beauty and love
*** The Hopi tradition describes the gathering of 144,000 "rainbow warriors" or “sundancers” who will unite the earth. At that time, people will
have their choice to accept or reject the Creator's plan for peace on earth. This is prophetically seen as the return of Quetzacoatl who in the
ancient Mayan tradition is also the God of the planet Venus.
source for the above 2 extracts
*** The Jesus character was also associated with "the morning star" (Venus) and promised to return when the Age of Aquarius began (typically
associated with 21-12-2012)
If you visit the page I lnked to you will notice how the 144,000 are linked to the being called Sannat Kumara and the "ascended masters" and note
also the various mentions of the beings hailing from Venus....as you digest the info, recall my thread about Maitreya ,Share International and the
"space brothers" (they also call them "ascended masters") from MARS and VENUS. Remember also there was a group of lesser-ranked Annunaki known as
the IGIGI who were stationed on LAHMU (MARS). Some (not all) of these rebelled , coming to Earth and taking wives for themselves .
The ancients obviously equated these beings and their expected return with a force for light and good, but that is of course the way these beings
planned for it to be seen but I do not think their plans are borne out of love for mankind, rather for complete control .....
As Brandon has discovered and as I too have uncovered in myriad different places, the creator gods who inspired the world belief systems were said to
come from Venus...this is mentioned in various legends around the world and goes way back to the ancient Greek legends . These Venusian characters
should NOT be viewed as our saviours !!
The 144,000 issue might go back way before any mention of this number in the Bible ...perhaps the Christians knew of the legends and associations then
adapted the idea, creating their own version of what it meant ?
The Christian version of the 144,000 could perhaps relate to 144,000 of the creator gods' special henchmen being marked for protection...ie the
"elite" and other members of the original ruling bloodlines which have always controlled the planet.......?
Whatever way you look at it, in my opinion the 144,000 are a select group of people/beings who APPEAR to be working for the good of mankind , helping
to unite the world, bring peace and so forth...and I've no doubt they will achieve that, but it will be a prison paradise, much like the original
garden of Eden, where the inhabitants are effectively brainwashed and mind controlled.
Returning to the 144,000-Baktun commentary....the 13th Baktun ends 21-12-2012 so we enter the 14th Baktun. Note on the dollar bill pyramid the 13
levels with the capstone ("14") floating above....The beginning of the 14th Baktun could be when the capstone (original ruling gods) descends on the
13 levels to create the perfected pyramid.....the return of the gods ?
21-12-2012 marks the end of the cycle of the precession of the equinoxes, an astronomical event that correlates with the golden ratio of the
Pentgram...symbol of the planet VENUS.....Venus being the home of the gods and related to the 144,000 in some traditions
The Pentagram and the Platonic Year (Precession of Equinoxes Circuit)
(you'll need to scroll down the above page a bit to see the picture and comments)
The original gods were split into factions that fought with each other. There are no real "good" guys in this saga coming to save mankind, not in my
opinion anyway. We can only "save" ourselves spiritually and physically.
Just some food for thought anyway.........
[edit on 14/5/09 by cosmicpixie]