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posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by The Stand
The true reason for the first three Ten Commandments because most misunderstand.

#1 Do not worship or help the other gods because me and my slaves are taking over the entire world and I will kill you and your families for generations to come if you do not cooperate and help.

#2 Do not draw a picture of me because I do not want the people in the future to know who is behind this organization. If you do we will kill you and your family for generations to come.

#3 Do not speak the name of your master because then you will be able to trace him and his descendants back in history. Then you would not only be able to find out who we are but what we looked like.

Doing any of these things jeopardized their plans for the future and you and your children would be put to death for generations to come if you did not obey. (Praise the Lord) or else.


More lies. YOU ARE GOD. Jesus tried to tell you that YOU ARE GOD. Read John 14:20. To have no other gods before me, is to not worship another god or man before you. For you to recognize your own authority and to take responsiblity for you're actions.

A false idol is ANY image. Because when you put a single image as being god, you are telling a lie. As we are all god. Love thy neighbor as yourself etc.

How did he bring them out of slavery? Because they recognized and seen their own authority. To where they were not following the authority of another. At that point, they no longer deserved to be slaves, and they weren't.

He even says the "prince of this world" is coming, and he has nothing for him. And then you go and attribute the things the church has done in his name, as being too him? Even after he directly warns and talks about this.




posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:15 PM
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YOU ARE GOD. Jesus tried to tell you that YOU ARE GOD.


Exactly, and where did that philosophy come from?

It has been around long before the time of Jesus.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
Actually you should pay more attention. The Roman Empire was falling. That is why they needed an elaborate cover up. They achieved this by appearing to others as something other than the Roman Empire.

Other than Jesus's teachings, the Bible is nearly identical to the other pagan religions that came before it. It was nearly identical to the religion of the Ancient Egytians and has also been adapted to other ancient religions such as the druids in Europe.

Jesus did seem to perform miracles and heal people through his time as an understudy of buddhist healing techniques and philosophies. He captured the Roman Empire not by violence but by teaching others mainly his twelve disciples who were all in the family.

Julius Caesar had created a three world war plan to create a one world government, this was passed down and used in a way to control society. The Bible is an example of that. While there are many good things written and contained in the Bible. Many parts are completely fraudulent and part of Caesars design to capture humanity under this Empire.


No, you are talking about what people have done in his name after his death. It is a lie to say that is what he intended or wanted. It is a known fact that the Roman empire did bad things. It is a known fact that the Catholic church did bad things. And these people did things in his name, while NOT following the teachings. He directly addresses this issue as I quoted, and you LIE about it.

The Roman empire incorporated the IMAGE of Jesus as a way of saving their empire. By putting the image up there, people thought it was a victory and allowed it. All the while did the Roman Empire actually do what Jesus said? Did they actually follow the teachings? NO. They did the exact opposite, and just did it in his name to manipulate and control the blind people who couldn't see past the image and symbolism.

And yes it's been done over and over. And that is what the worshipping of Taurus the bull was about. Not the changing of the age, but because those people were worshipping the image/symbol of taurus the bull rather than the teaching of the age. Just as the Roman Empire, the catholic church and the rest of the people who do NOT following the teachings of Jesus have done for the past 2000 years.

You are a blind fool.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
Exactly, and where did that philosophy come from?

It has been around long before the time of Jesus.


You mean, he came speaking the truth? That he tried to show people what it meant? He tried to show people god?

But then you look at the Roman Empire. Do they recognize or teach you are god? No, they teach that they are the authority. Seems to go exactly the opposite way. And yet you blame Jesus for that?

If I started doing bad things in your name tomorrow, would that mean you were to blame? Even if the things I did in your name were exactly the opposite of what you actually stood for?

Do you not realize it's done OVER AND OVER in our society, not just with Jesus? Did you know that every president that is on a dollar bill was in fact AGAINST any such creation of the central bank that puts their IMAGE on it?

This entire discussion is ignorant. You don't know anything about this topic, and do nothing more than spread lies.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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Sorry are you trying to imply that I am a heretic or a blasphemer. Those shallow attempts to impose false beliefs may work against you, but they no longer are affective against me. I have done my research and I no longer wish to entertain such degrading insults.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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You mean, he came speaking the truth? That he tried to show people what it meant? He tried to show people god?
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Julius Caesar himself was worshipped during these times as a God. So with that idiology why not call Jesus the sun of God?

Why do you suppose that at Denver International Airport the murals depict a dead Native American woman, a dead Jewish Girl and a dead African lady in caskets.

Is it another way of saying that "We will no longer tolerate ancient history being taught in society?" Is it yet another way of saying, "If you do not worship our God we will cut off your seed?"

I think so.

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posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
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Sorry are you trying to imply that I am a heretic or a blasphemer. Those shallow attempts to impose false beliefs may work against you, but they no longer are affective against me. I have done my research and I no longer wish to entertain such degrading insults.


No, I'm not trying to imply anything. I'm straight out telling you that you are.

Whats next, you gonna pull a GWB and claim "let us not tolerate outlandish conspiracy theories"? "You aren't even going to dignify those claims with a response"?

Hide from it. I don't care. But don't think for a second you are going to keep spreading lies without them being exposed.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
Julius Caesar himself was worshipped during these times as a God. So with that idiology why not call Jesus the sun of God?

Why do you suppose that at Denver International Airport the murals depict a dead Native American woman, a dead Jewish Girl and a dead African lady in caskets.

Is it another way of saying that "We will no longer tolerate ancient history being taught in society?" Is it yet another way of saying, "If you do not worship our God we will cut off your seed?"

I think so.


Once again you attribute what people of authority have done to Jesus. Which is it? Jesus taught people they were god, as pointed out already. Or that only Jesus is the son of god?

Jesus said the prince of this world was coming, and he had nothing for him. HMMMMM, you don't suppose you could be talking about the prince, aka "Satan" now do you? You know, Satan, the one who wants to be worshipped AS GOD? That he, and ONLY he is god?

You haven't researched anything. You are just parroting the things you read that you thought sounded good. Obviously you don't really understand.

Any fool can know, the point is to understand - Einstein.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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Actually that is the point that I am trying to make. I posted a video from another thread earlier titled "The History of the Devil" I suggest you watch it. Not becasue it supports any of my claims, because it does not. But it does support the fact that throughout modern history, the empire has held society to these extreme standards.

"If you are not with us you are aginst us."

This is what happened during the crusades and pilgramage. Innocent women were hung under the false pretense of worshipping the devil or being called witches if they opposed these idiotic extreme beliefs. The patriot act is another shining example of everything that is wrong with our society. Guilty until proven innocent, it's called fascism.

By not opening your eyes and seeking the truth you are supporting this fascist movement, whether you realize it or not. I'm sorry if it does not agree with your faith. But in reality fact is based on fact, not belief. So question what is real, not what you have been told to believe.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
Actually that is the point that I am trying to make. I posted a video from another thread earlier titled "The History of the Devil" I suggest you watch it. Not becasue it supports any of my claims, because it does not. But it does support the fact that throughout modern history, the empire has held society to these extreme standards.


If you notice, I have not posted a single link except to those that quote the bible, in which case I do only to show you that what you say is exactly the opposite of what is said in the bible.

I have knowledge and understanding from source. I can sit here and debate this entire topic without quoting a single source. From my own knowledge. I do not even need the bible. And I do not even need to defend Jesus. I am merely trying to show the way the manipulation has been done, which you obviously do not get or understand as you can not separate the words and teachings of Jesus with the things that have been carried out in his name.



This is what happened during the crusades and pilgramage. Innocent women were hung under the false pretense of worshipping the devil or being called witches if they opposed these idiotic extreme beliefs. The patriot act is another shining example of everything that is wrong with our society. Guilty until proven innocent, it's called fascism.

By not opening your eyes and seeking the truth you are supporting this fascist movement, whether you realize it or not. I'm sorry if it does not agree with your faith. But in reality fact is based on fact, not belief. So question what is real, not what you have been told to believe.


Once again you blame the actions of others on Jesus. I know the evil the church and governments have done. I am merely trying to show you HOW it is done, because that is what you do not get.

I have no faith. I know knowledge and understanding. And it's typical of people like you to keep doing this. Every person I have directly debated has tried to push me off as being someone who reads the bible, had it shoved down their throats as truth, and must repeat it. And then try to belittle me in the process, without ever being able to actually prove me wrong in what I say. I can certainly prove you wrong, OVER AND OVER.

Is it so hard to grasp and believe that people can come upon knowledge and understanding without having to read it from the book and works of another person? Tell me, where do you think such knowledge came from originally? Do you think people have always had books and links to rely on?

If you can ever learn the difference between the religion ABOUT Jesus, and the religion OF Jesus, then maybe you will start to get a clue. Until then, like it or not, you are the blind leading the blind.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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bm is just doing what countless Christians before him have done for hundreds of years - hounded people who thought differently. It's part and parcel of the mindset. They're used to being the bullies on the block, so they think they'll continue to get away with it.

That's coming to an end and they don't like it. The battle with these people is only going to get uglier. Fortunately, they can't burn us or hang us or drown us anymore.

Sucks to be you, badmedia. Sucks to be you.
Get ready to lip hind mammary. This time around we're coming out on top.

The Good Guys



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:01 PM
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Answer this question. I notice you completely ignored it. Wonder why?

If I started doing bad things in your name tomorrow, would that mean you were to blame? Even if the things I did in your name were exactly the opposite of what you actually stood for?



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sleuth
bm is just doing what countless Christians before him have done for hundreds of years - hounded people who thought differently. It's part and parcel of the mindset. They're used to being the bullies on the block, so they think they'll continue to get away with it.

That's coming to an end and they don't like it. The battle with these people is only going to get uglier. Fortunately, they can't burn us or hang us or drown us anymore.

Sucks to be you, badmedia. Sucks to be you.
Get ready to lip hind mammary. This time around we're coming out on top.

The Good Guys


Oh look, yet another poster that refuses to address the points made, and instead attacks the person. All the while doing the exact same thing as the ones he points the the fingers at.

Which might actually be true if I were a "Christian". I don't belong to the religion ABOUT Jesus. I belong to the religion OF Jesus.

A bit of a generalization, but there are 2 groups that hate me. Chrisitans, and anti-christians. The blind people who can't see past image. And both groups always attack me personally, while ignoring the points I bring up - while claiming to be "seeking truth".



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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Maybe I'm diferent from the rest .. I really don't know, but i do see thinks exactly in the opposite direction that everyone does.

Everyone is trying to find the names, the ones in power in those days, the ancestors from the people that today make us slaves... The keepers of knowledge. Looking for the ones to blame today and in the past. trying to find the beginning of our salvery and its course till our days... the final proof that it is real and it as been happen for thousands of years.
Is it important to know the names in the past ? Are we focacing ourselves in what is really important?

Did anyone try to findout who was fighting them and why did they fail ? What about the knowledge from those who since the beggining foght the gods... ? Those like many of us that do not take things as they seem to be... that question, search and try to find what's in the shadow. Those that always had questions about intentions and motives ? Didn't they learn something ?
Did they exist? who were they? Do they exist today, if so who are they? Why did they fail to stop "them" till today ? Aren't this people worth of credit ?

We already know what as been happening... and it will keep happening till we change our approach, a diferent reaction to the same action.
I do believe we shouldn't be trying to find the cause anymore. We already know that. Was it joe was it Rita, it doesn't matter anymore. It did happen and it will happen again and again as long as we fall for the same mistakes. The problem is not to find the cause is to find the solution.

We always had the power of Choice. And we always ... always try to find the ones to blame and not the ones with solutions.
Was it jesus... was it the devil... aliens... what ever.. it doesn't matter. We don't have time for it. They will never give us the knowledge they have been hiding for thousands ot years, but we can learn to live without it... and if so, going in a diferent direction a diferent aproch to the same problem .. make them useless. Would they have power f all they know is useless ??
But we have to choose. That can be painfull. It is so easy to point a finger and say I know it was the Jews or the masons etc... now everything is ok, your not the one to blame, if your in a bad situation the bad guys did it.
But... if we try to find a solution.. if we believe we can make a diference we have to act.
If we don't .. can we blame them?
I do believe we should be looking for those who can help us change our future and not for those to blame for our past. (and present) The big problem is the choice
We can die free tomorrow or we can die as slaves in 20 years... it is so dificult ... maybe nothing happens... maybe I'll lose everything I have for nothing... maybe not....maybe I'm right .. maybe I'm crazy... ufffffffff !
I've been trying ... couldn't do it .. I still can't... I do believe that acknowledging the choices I have and what they meen is halfway to choose.
What's painfull is that, what ever happens to me from now on ... I can't blame anyone else....but me.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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Andrew Jackson is on the 20 dollar bill. By the level of thinking you guys represent, he must obviously have been supportive of central banks and the bankers right? Of course, the reality of the situation is he was the only president to survive the assassination attempts and got rid of the central bank. Hmmm, wonder why the fed puts his image on the money?

And yet, the same thing has been done with Jesus, and you are too blind to even see it.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:10 PM
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It is more than obvious that only the slaves had to follow the Ten Commandments unless they were told otherwise. I am a little confused about one thing though, where is it in the bible that god says stop killing and stealing and taking innocent peoples land and don’t rape anymore little girls just because I told you too. I have now changed my mind leave those little girl alone and give back that land we stole.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by The Stand
It is more than obvious that only the slaves had to follow the Ten Commandments unless they were told otherwise. I am a little confused about one thing though, where is it in the bible that god says stop killing and stealing and taking innocent peoples land and don’t rape anymore little girls just because I told you too. I have now changed my mind leave those little girl alone and give back that land we stole.


If you realize that everyone is god, then you realize that when you treat other people bad, you are treating and turning your back on god. As such, there is only 1 real commandment. That you do not infringe on the free will of others. The commandments and things you listed are all based on that principle.

Just because someone didn't follow this, doesn't mean it's right does it. Eye for an eye leave the whole world blind.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:19 PM
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Hi 12-21-2012
thanks, I'll plough through the 6 hr documentary that thread links to...I don't seem to leave my chair anymore unless to eat or sleep LOL

Have you ever read "jesus the man" by Barbara Thiering ...she did a lot of research that made tremendous sense yet reaches a totally different conclusion to yours ! God, it's a labyrinth.
She linked Mary and Jospeh to a religious group that had 2 parts to a marriage ceremony...a couple were not properly bound until taking part two of the rite, which occured quite some time after part one and this gap demanded celibacy. Until properly bound the woman was known as a "virgin". The story goes that Mary got pregnant before the marriage was legal and baby Jesus was dumped outside the Essene temple...at the time, that's what happened with lots of unwanted babies. He was raised by Essene priests and trained in the secret gnostic knowledge . The head of the Essene Temple was referred to as GOD while the other priests were called ANGELS. She also concluded Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married, that he went on to have kids, etc etc

The research supports all this yet would contradict YOUR version of jesus...or do you think this could have been some elaborate plan to "cover the tracks" about who Jesus really was ?

In which case the bible becomes VERY multi layered....cunningly put together so that some people just believe the literal idea of immaculate conception and supernatural ressurection, while others think Jesus was the earthly incarnation of the sun god (the astrotheology correlations are everywhere in the Jesus story), then others still who dig deep see jesus as being born out of wedlock and being very human ....you then have 3 theories detracting from the actual truth ???


I can get that the Jesus you talk about wanted to perpetuate the empire and forming a new religion was key to this plan, but this still does not explain why no writers at the time he was around making waves bothered to record anything about him. If there really was someone doing miracles of the kind described in the bible , plenty of writers would have written about it, no ?! But they didn't. The Jesus you talk about didn't seem to have made any impression on the thinkers and writers of the time...no-one wrote a thing about him until decades later, through the gospels.

I can accept he might have developed some mystical skills and tricks but I tend to take the stories of the "miracles" as metaphors that "for those with ears and eyes" would understand made reference to current events at the time of Jesus.

Anyway I'd watch the documentary, I have masses of questions in my head now !



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:26 PM
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I am the son of god. You are a daughter of god. We are all god. And this is what Jesus tried to tell us.

The lie that religion/church puts on the Jesus thing, is that he was the ONLY son of god. And thus why things about the sun have been attributed to him, which comes from pagan religion etc. To make you believe that you are not worthy, and thus not the daughter of god.

If you can understand that, then you will see the truth in what is being said.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:29 PM
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You mean, he came speaking the truth? That he tried to show people what it meant? He tried to show people god?


Actually I don't care. I am not claiming to be the son of God. So do whatever you want and blame it on me, I don't care.

The columbine massacre was blamed on Marylin Manson. But I did not see him running around Conlumbine High School with a shotgun.

Badmedia, you know what I did not call you, but you have repeatedly called me? A liar? Which would make you just as much of a sinner. Obviously you don't have any historical evidence supporting your claim. If so please come forward with it.

Obviously what I am stating is my opinion and I am entitled to it. I am not going to raise my children passing some make believe character of as the son of God or God. I am just not going to do that you catch my drift? Fact is, I have not ever seen any historical evidence supporting these claims.

All there is is the Bible, the Bible is full of words and talk is cheap.

I myself was raised having these people, including my own parents shoving this nonsense down my throught and I NEVER bought into it. You know why? Becasue it's a fairy tale, it's not real. Instead I asked the questions most don;t dare to ask and after over 25 years of asking, I am finally finding answers that actually make sense.

So if I am wrong, I am willing to take that chance...

But I am not going to teach to my children this nonsense that they are supposed to believe in a man that all historical evidence points out was nothing more than the son of a tyrant and a mortal man as beiing a God or the son of God. I just won't destroy their life that way.

You are just as guilty of telling lies as you accuse me of. I hope for your childrens sake, if you have any or ever have any. You do not pass these fairytales off of them.

I will gladly spend an eternity in hell for my children, in order to leave them in a better world then the one I was raised in. I do not fear hell. I do not fear God. If there is a God, I believe that he or she or whatever God is is a compassionate God and would not hold me accountable for not believing in all these lies that I have been taught.

But like You said. We as individuals are God and through unity we can manifest a greater purpose that is well intended to better and further humanity.

Chrisitanity and Catholicism has failed humanity and every living thing on this earth. It is time we take this babaric way of thinking and let it go. Forever.

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