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Originally posted by cancerian42
The children allow their parents to make their choices for them, usually from their first realization that their parents know more than they do and will help them. Sometimes though the parent will forget that their silent agreement is temporary and they continue making choices for the child after he/she has reached the point where he/she wants to make his/her own choices. For example, I am 17 and my mother makes me go to church. I am not a Christian. I know that I can make that choice for myself, but she thinks she is doing the right thing ultimately. However she is still infringing on my freewill even though it is legal to do so and some people would say it was good to do so.
It is impossible to keep people ignorant of the truth without their consent however vague it may be, because the truth is everywhere.
Your free will was infringing your own free will If that makes sense, because you didn't want to burn your hand but your ignorance led to it. And I don't think you would learn not to murder someone by murdering them, you are usually past the learning part and way down the road to the extreme narcissism path. But it is all ignorance. And I do not believe it would be wrong to infringe on their free will to put them in jail either would it?
Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by serbsta
Dollar bill, Freemasonry, annaki, Lincoln, Ea, Enlil, Enki, Jesus, The Catholic Church, Chemtrails, fluoride, 2012 and many other things I forgot to mention.
Originally posted by Brandon Levon
I know I will never see this day but in order for us to take back what has been taken away we would have to have understanding. We have to realize everyone has pieces of the puzzle. We have to realize that everyone is important, that everyone matters and then the cycle of the law of motion would be broken and this over time if there is enough left, would lead us to not be afraid of one another, to not be afraid to speak, to not be afraid to come to conclusions together and then and only then will we not need a leader, we will not need a messiah, we would be everything they do not want us to be, ONE.
Originally posted by cosmicpixie
My Father was reading alot of esoteric stuff before he died , and I know full well it contributed to his mental breakdown as he got into it all "too deep" and was on a very profound guilt trip about his life which led to some sort of psychotic persecution complex. But I don't blame the books, I saw only that it was sad my Father had gotten so impressionable while he was already suffering depression and the spiritual stuff tipped him over the edge into psychosis. That kid could have had all sorts going on in his life that you don't know about and the book came along when he was already very vulnerable. We really don't know the whole story anyway.
Originally posted by Brandon Levon
Matrix1111, I will answer that question, there was a guy that a friend of mine was related to and sometimes when I was at his house he would show up talking about things like population control and things that just seemed to me like “O.K. buddy”. Probably about 6 months after 9/11 I brought up the fact that 9/11 looked to me to be an inside job and he showed me the twin tower and the pentagon fold.
I started working on it myself and at the time I had no ideal that there was so much information on the internet because I never really had a need for a computer as you can probably tell by my first posts not to mention I really had no ideal how any of the features worked when I wrote this book. This is even my first attempt to talk to the outside world via the internet on any subject. Now, yes there are many of the things I discovered back then that are on the internet now but I still have not seen it all and although the time frame fits in pretty close with the link you posted, this person was a lot older than me and had been researching this kind of thing for a long time. And by the way the first line of the first page gives you an ideal of how old I am so you were either intentionally following the path of what is said to be the uneducated or did not take the time to even read the first page?
Now as for population control I have since found that there is reason to believe that they are now and have been for a while trying to kill us, plain and simple. One of the first things I noticed was fluoride and it does not help your teeth it causes all forms of cancer especially rare forms of bone cancer in children. It makes you depressed and your teeth so brittle they break apart.
If this disaster happens they are going to live through it and they are going to put into place their new god, there will be no internet and if this is going to happen in 2012 which I am not claiming this is the date the ancients were talking about but it is close and they no for sure exactly when and they are not telling us just like they did not tell the people about the great flood. In short there will not be many of us left to tell the story of what they did and if a form that can be preserved is not left they will remain in charge just as they did after the last cross of the zodiac, the great flood.
It seems like you are trying to say that if your grand
Originally posted by Matrix1111
Who is "they?" Are they us? If we've been genetically manufactured by "they" (based on 2/3 of their DNA), and "they" are evil, then do we want to become ONE with them? How do we cleanse ourselves of "them?" If their blood (genetics) flows through us, then we need to remove their blood and replace it with untainted blood. How do we do that? Can we do that without a pure prototype?
It seems to me that the danger of Illuminati conspiracy theorists is that they reject all religions as being nothing but a means of control by the "masters." Jesus is not real. A messiah is not needed. But where does that lead us? It rejects the possibility of changing our DNA/blood.
Jesus spoke of the need for engrafting ourselves into the true vine through various parables. He symbolically expressed this need through the Last Supper where he offered his "body and blood" through the sancrements of bread and wine. This connects with the Tree of Life symbolism of the Garden of Eden story. Even the last chapter of Revelation specifies the need to re-connect to the Tree of Life. (Rev. 22:14)
We cannot establish heaven within ourselves without connecting to this original tree, the true prototype. We cannot end this recycling of dysfunctional man without connecting to this true man. Who is this true man? Was it Anu? Enki? Enlil? If they are the original source of the Illuminati, then who will help man purify their DNA? Certainly not them. Then another race of alien?
When Genesis says that man was created in "our image," who was he referring to? The angels? Who are the angels? What is the Tree of Life?
You say we need to learn from one another, yet your theory is that all religion is distrustful and false. So how can we learn from one another when we are all products of various religious cultures and beliefs? If we reject all religions, then we're throwing away the proverbial "baby with the bathwater."
The truth has not been found yet. Imperfect man cannot even comprehend what perfect man is. Consequently, how can we know truth when we see it? Even if we glimpse parts of it, our dsyfunctional mind/body (tainted DNA) prevents us from clearly understanding it. So it's enevitable that man ends up putting a spin on those bits of truth, as he's prejudiced by his dysfunctionality. Then what is the solution? Rejecting all belief systems or accepting all belief systems but taking the best from all of them?
Our psychological worldview is essentially based on the way our parents raised us. We inherited their dysfunctional perceptions through genetics and through their being our role models throughout our childhood development. Each generation makes tiny advancements in knowledge that gets passed onto the next generation. Each culture makes tiny advancements until we have the world that we have today. It's still dysfunctional, but it's definitely not caveman level. But it's a hopeful situation when you see how far we've come in terms of technology, sciences and even spirituality.
Quantum physics has helped new age spirituality see the potential that is available to us. Yes, there are untapped powers available to us, that we were originally "wired" to utilize. But who cut us off from those powers/abilities? Was it a conspiracy of evil angels (satan) or evil Annunaki? Was it done by an evil God, Jehovah? Whatever the case may be, we are at the point in time where all this can be resolved. The question is whether we tap into our higher selves and learn to love or tap into the lower selves and continue to blame and look for scapegoats. Whatever the story you want to choose, the outcome of our future depends on which path we choose. As quantum metaphysics shows, we create our own reality. Just make sure you visualize the right future. Otherwise, you'll get what you imagine.
[edit on 10/17/2008 by Matrix1111]
Originally posted by Dock6
* humans, after death, are consigned to Hades, which .. if I've understood Brandon correctly .. is not the 'hell' described by the Christian church, but rather a what ... ?