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posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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I got my answer which was no answer. This quote sums it up:


While we cannot respond individually to over a thousand messages per day, the level of interest and thoughtfulness of the comments reflected in these communications are very gratifying.


They don't even read the emails. That option is just on their site to give the impression they do. This is the answer I expected. They of course went on to ask me to volunteer to do work for Obama. Oh, the irony of it all
Won't answer a simple question for me, but want me to do work for them




posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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His father is 7/8th Arab and 1/8th African Negro.

This makes him 1/2 White, 7/16th Arab and 1/16th Black. He doesn't want this to become public knowledge.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy Indian
His father is 7/8th Arab and 1/8th African Negro.



Where did you find that out???

I havent heard that before... and what does that mean... that one of obamas dads parents was half black, half arab... and the other full arab???

I would like to see alitte bit on that, cause from what ive seen, his father is a Kenyean, and is prety black... not arab...



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Maybe because he knows there's so much ignorance and racism out there, that people who look at the mute points like his fathers religion or race will casue a stir over something so patheticly minor.


Sure doesn't take long for someone to play the racism card in defense of Obama.



People should be focusing on him, the way he talks, the way he walks, the way he looks you in the eye and TELLS you what he thinks.


But then wouldn't you (and others here) just raise the same racism issue on that? Oh wait, that's already happening on a bunch of other threads.



Suppose he does release it, and his fathers arabic..

How long will it take for an ats:
'' Obama is the Son of a terrorist sympathiser '' thread to open up?



Well, as long as he is really a citizen, then his father can be arabic - and one shouldn't vote either way because of it.

[edit on 6/11/2008 by centurion1211]



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by glad_to_be_His

Exactly...couldn't agree more. Let's talk about his policies. If someone could please clearly lay out what they are, then we could move on to serious debate.



1. increase taxes on everybody making over $95,000
2. impose higher taxes on oil companies
3. nationalize health care
4. immediate withdrawal from Iraq
5. unconditional meetings with Iran, Cuba, N. Korea, Syria, and Hamas
6. $50 billion in increased aid to Africa
7. elimination of all U.S. nuclear weapons (watch video on other thread)
8. immediately stop funding new U.S. weapon systems
9. eliminate all space-based anti-missile weapons
10. Reduce carbon emissions to 80% of 1990 levels, putting the U.S. back to the dark ages.

These all sound like policies that were hatched in some poly sci class at Harvard. Hopefully his birth certificate will show he was born in Ireland. Maybe his real name is Barry O'Bama.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Omissions of convenience...


You are incorrect in attributing any motives of "convenience" to my omission of that word. I like to trim my quotes to the pertinent information. And I didn't leave out a link. It's right there in my post.



If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship.
Sou rce


There is no reason to think that Obama's mother didn't meet this qualification. Even if she traveled to Kenya and had him while she was there (which there is no reason to suspect), she was still a resident of the US.



Now all this could be cleared up by simply providing the document in question to the media... There's no privacy issue... So what is the issue for Barry... Errr... Barack Hussein Obama?


Yes, this would all be cleared up by turning over his papers to the media. If he chooses to. But what do you mean there is no privacy issue? Doesn't Barry have the same rights to privacy that the rest of us do?

Surely he must prove to the State Department that he is eligible to run for President. But he is under no obligation to show the world, or even the citizens or the US, his birth certificate. At this point, it may be a matter of principle. It's not like the people who are demanding this paper are going to change their minds about hating him and vote for him. So why should he if he doesn't have to?

This is an interesting write up about Obama's mother's life in the Chicago Tribune. Maybe you guys can find some interesting little tidbit in there and start a rumor of your very own!



[edit on 11-6-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by TKainZero
Where did you find that out???I would like to see alitte bit on that,


I posted it back on page 3 - here is some of the exchange -


Originally posted by projectvxn
.His father is from Kenya. Kenya is in Africa, Kenya is almost ENTIRELY black. Arabic people...Live in Arab areas. Like...Saudi Arabia. These people are not black.

Neither is Obama.
Obama has Arab slave traders as his ancestors.
Read between the lines
Obama is an Arab American

The Washington Post
Huffington Post has a link to a video of Obama’s grandmother being interviewed on Al-Jazzera.

[edit on 6/11/2008 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
But what do you mean there is no privacy issue? Doesn't Barry have the same rights to privacy that the rest of us do?

No, he doesn't.

When running for POTUS, EVERYTHING about a person is vetted. People have a right to know everything about the person before casting their vote. Different things are important to different people. The people have a right to have all information they deem necessary before casting their votes. What seems unimportant or stupid to you and me, will be important to someone else. And they have a right to feel it's important.

A potential POTUS definately does NOT have the same privacy rights we ordinary citizens have.


But he is under no obligation to show the world, or even the citizens or the US, his birth certificate.

Very true. I said that on page one.


So why should he if he doesn't have to?

- Votes.
- Because Mr. Change is supposedly running an open and honest campaign.
- To put this all to rest.
- To provide answers to questions that the American people have.

Hey ... Cindy McCain was under no obligation to release her financial papers. She and John McCain have separate finances and have had separate finances for their entire married lives. At first she said she wouldn't release them because they were a non-issue. But then she changed her mind and went ahead and released them even though she has a right to privacy and she didn't have to.

Know why?

- Votes.
- To run an open and honest campaign.
- To put this all to rest.
- To provide answers to questions that the American people have.

Obama should do the same. It's just a freak'n piece of paper. Release it.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Read between the lines
Obama is an Arab American


Those are BLOGS. Don't you realize that the more you use BLOGS for sources, the less credible you become? These people (like you) have an agenda to make Obama look bad.

Let's see some real sources, please. The LINK TV video was very nice. Thanks for that.

The name "Barack" is rooted in both Arabic and Swahili. And his father was born in Kenya.

The Ancestry of Barry Obama



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
When running for POTUS, EVERYTHING about a person is vetted.


By the whole country??? No. Sorry.



People have a right to know everything about the person before casting their vote.


Where do you get this? It's your opinion, right? His right to privacy is NOT removed because of our nosiness.


The people have a right to have all information they deem necessary before casting their votes.
No, they don't. You're not going to vote for him anyway. I am. I don't need to see his birth certificate.



And they have a right to feel it's important.

They have a right to feel whatever they want. That doesn't mean they have a right to invade his privacy.



A potential POTUS definately does NOT have the same privacy rights we ordinary citizens have.


Perhaps not, but you're going to have to show me that the citizenry of the US has a specific right to see his birth certificate before I agree that that particular right of privacy is stripped of him.


At first she said she wouldn't release them because they were a non-issue. But then she changed her mind and went ahead and released them even though she has a right to privacy and she didn't have to.


Well, maybe Barry will change his mind, too.




Obama should do the same. It's just a freak'n piece of paper. Release it.


Will you vote for him if he does?



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by jamie83

Originally posted by glad_to_be_His
Let's talk about his policies. If someone could please clearly lay out what they are, then we could move on to serious debate.


1. increase taxes on everybody making over $95,000
2. impose higher taxes on oil companies
3. nationalize health care
4. immediate withdrawal from Iraq
5. unconditional meetings with Iran, Cuba, N. Korea, Syria, and Hamas
6. $50 billion in increased aid to Africa
7. elimination of all U.S. nuclear weapons
8. immediately stop funding new U.S. weapon systems
9. eliminate all space-based anti-missile weapons
10. Reduce carbon emissions to 80% of 1990 levels.


Great list Jamie. I guess I'm framing myself here, but I actually read the whole list before I realized you were AGAINST all of the above things. It must be a matter of perspective.

If you open up a new thread on the above list, I would love to respond to each, and that would be an interesting discussion to me.

I think I could argue in favor of all of these items, without limit.

But that would take us off this pressing topic of whether Obama is a natural born citizen, or has a secret allegiance to Kenya.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Those are BLOGS. Don't you realize that the more you use BLOGS for sources, the less credible you become? These people (like you) have an agenda to make Obama look bad.

Let's see some real sources, please. The LINK TV video was very nice. Thanks for that.

The name "Barack" is rooted in both Arabic and Swahili. And his father was born in Kenya.

The Ancestry of Barry Obama


Real sources? You mean like ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, and FOX, who have no agendas?

For God sakes, ABC is putting Michelle Obama on The View to help Obama court the female vote.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 08:31 PM
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reply to post by jamie83
 


Thank you jamie! I am glad someone finally answered me
Maybe Ireland will claim him since they got the head's up
On with the debate....



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Buck Division
Great list Jamie. I guess I'm framing myself here, but I actually read the whole list before I realized you were AGAINST all of the above things. It must be a matter of perspective.

If you open up a new thread on the above list, I would love to respond to each, and that would be an interesting discussion to me.

I think I could argue in favor of all of these items, without limit.

But that would take us off this pressing topic of whether Obama is a natural born citizen, or has a secret allegiance to Kenya.


Cool.... here's the new thread:

New Obama's Policies Thread



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Oh boy. This is such fun. You know, my first thought was that if he's a Gemini, we're in some seriously big trouble here.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 12:18 AM
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Now the story's made it to the New York Times:

NY TImes Addresses Birth Certificate Issue

I can't help but think that somebody wants us to discuss the birth certificate instead of some other issue that may be more important.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 04:04 AM
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Before this is all over with I would not be surprised if we are told that
Barack Obama has ancestors who are Lemba and/or Habashim. People fail to realize Kenya is right next door Ethiopia.

Someone will try to connect this to the Solomnic Dynasty of Ethiopia and then someone can claim that Barack Obama is from the House of David through Queen Makeda and King Solomon. (Cue scary Omen theme music)

Of course none of this has to even be remotely true. People just have to believe its true. I mean if you want to legitmize yourself as a Messiah, well you need that House of David membership card.

[edit on 12/6/08 by MikeboydUS]



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 04:52 AM
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Anyone Running For President Of The United States HAS TO BE ANS AMERICAN BORN CITIZEN ! No If's and or buts about it! WHY Wont He Produce It ? It's Because He's Not American Born ! His Background Is All Fairy Tale Bullcrud ! He's Obviously Trying To Hide Something And Stalling For Time So His Handlers Can INVENT AN Birth certificate . This Guy Is A Phoney And these idiots that are being hoodwinked by this guy think he is a MESSIAH oF Some Sort . Ask Yourself This OBAMAITES , WHAT Do You really KNOW ABOUT him ? Research Him Real Close . This Guy Came Out Of NOWHERE . Look At His Senate Voting Records . This Goof Has'nt Been In The Senate Long Enough To Know Anything . Look Deep Into His Financial Backers . And His ADVISERS . And If You Think That He Disagrees With His Pastor For 20 years That Spewed All That Anti American Crap, Anti WHITE Hate . You Are Blind And Brain Dead ! The Only Reason He Is Distancing himself From That Radical Preacher Is Because He Does'nt Want You To Think That He Feels The Same Way ! BULLSH*& ! He TOTALLY Agrees With The Same Ideals Period !



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Those are BLOGS. Don't you realize that the more you use BLOGS for sources, the less credible you become? These people (like you) have an agenda to make Obama look bad.


My credibility is just fine, thank you for your concern.


Oh BH .. SWEETIE ... The MSM doesn't have an agenda???

The facts stated at those sites are credible. You don't want to accept that? Fine. Don't. But the FACT is that Obama is not 1/2 black. His fathers ancestory goes back to Arab lands. Arab SLAVE TRADING lands. Personally I don't care what the hell color his skin is ... but those are just the facts.

As for the rest of your post .... again, you are welcome to believe what you wish. But the FACT is that someone running for POTUS has to be more open and more forthcoming with information then the rest of us. I NEVER had to disclose my tax information or medical information to get a job. But the potential POTUS has. It's just part of showing the American people who you are and helping them to decide if they want you to represent them. Same goes for college papers and birth certificates. Bush43 and Kerry both released their college grades. They didn't HAVE to, but it was part of the process to let the American people know who they are and help the American people decide if they wanted Bush or Kerry to represent them. (Bush had a C+ average and Kerry had a C average).

BH ... believe what you wish. The REALITY is ... people want to see it and he needs to release it in order to gain votes for POTUS. If he doesn't release it, which is his right, it only hurts himself. (and verifies that he is NOT transparent and is just like the rest of the politicians he claims he is different from)

and no ... I"ll never vote for him. He's a liar, a racist, and a criminal. He offers NO change. NO hope. and definately NO unity. However, there are those who will feel more comfortable with him upon seeing his BC .... so it's to those people he should be releasing his birth certificate.

This is all part of that 'transparency' and hope/change rhetoric that he keeps blathering.


So Obama - WHERE'S THAT DARN BIRTH CERTIFICATE????



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 09:06 AM
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My understanding of the law is that the President must be a natural born citizen of the U.S.
I found this on www.worldnetdaily.com, a free press website:

)Link- www.worldnetdaily.com... )

'According to FindLaw.com, which is cited by Geraghty, the requirements that were in force from Dec. 24, 1952 to Nov. 13, 1986, encompassing the time of Obama's birth, state, "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." '

This would mean that he would not be eligible to be a candidate for President. After expending all that money to be president, it looks like he's scrambling to make sure no one knows that he's not eligible, since his mother was 18 when he was born.






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