Filmed birds, bats and bugs every day since 21 April!

Who said I took offense to anything besides you? You spelled blame wrong.
I didn't say I didn't believe in UFOs I simply stated your video didn't contain any because it doesn't. I think everyone here is in agreement on that except you.

I don't know how many more of these fake videos I can take either, before I just quit coming here. Just the fact that the person who took them has the balls to say they are UFO's amazes me.

Welcome to ATS Hoaxer, those are birds.



PERIOD

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I completely agree as does everyone else in this lame thread. I can't wait till school starts again so all the kiddies will be absent from this site.

And also, I think the OP owes everyone here a refund on the life that they've wasted in watching these garbage videos.

[edit on 6/11/2008 by Mad_Hatter]

The thing is Max... your videos doesn't present anything that in any way can be described as a ufo by the definition of alien or terrestrial craft.
Like said previously, those "objects" could easily be bugs / flies / birds what move in front of the lens (well probably not birds but the others..)

Something that moves between you and your focus point would appear to move faster that you'd normally perceive it. Especially if the insect was only 2 meters away etc.

There have been presented clips and videos far more convincing than yours before and a lot of those have been debunked / hoaxed. Now what makes yours so special?

Nothing, apart from your own statement about what you think it is.

A last note... it's up to you to prove that what you say is right. Not the other way around. Now, I explained to you how the "objects" could move so fast and turn hard corners... close up insects... that kinda takes away your "proof".

Did you manage to buy an apartment in Västerås by the way.....?

We have a guy who won't provide the RAW files necessary to validate his conclusions.

We have a guy who won't tell us what program he used to edit his video.

Yes, there are double images in every frame the bird appears.

I see three possibilities.

1. Intentional hoax
2. OP is paranoid someone will steal or misrepresent his videos
3. He doesn't know what he has

So why is he posting at all?

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haha I made you not leave the thread.
I won

You say EVERYONE believe there is no more than birds or dust in these videos. As I said in your little mind this might be true.

I can only hope the ones who are open minded can see between the lines here.
I've been accused of animating or using special effects or whatever more than ones. That is a proof that you are incorrect.

Ppl do see that these objects can't simply be brushed off as birds without deleting a lot of real options.

I simply can not believe a person can watch a blurry object and say "THAT'S DEFINATELY A BIRD" no matter what speed the object moves in, no matter its shape. That would be the reasoning of a very closed minded person.

My simple argument is that the objects can't be birds for obvious reasons.

I don't care what you think but don't come trying to tell what the objects are in the vid cause you obviously have barely watched before making your mind up. You still can't reach the surface.

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On the count of 3 everyone. 1.......2.........3..........TROLL!

Sorry guys but it's obviously someone having fun here at the expense of the ATS membership. The fact he said in his last post "i made you stay i won" just shows it's someone with a rather childish mentality trying to get one over on everyone.

The videos are bunk, the user is, well i'll keep that comment to myself.

BS I have told you what program I use.
I have not heard anyone ask for RAW material I do have it. 22 GB of it + Casio camera material 6 GB.

I guess I'm a playful fella at heart

edit: the vid is being updated (for those of you who can't reach it atm)


[edit on 11-6-2008 by maxsightings]

Tweet, tweet

An out of focus bird is an out of focus bird. What more is there to say?

I just viewed the videos, and in my honest opinion they are insects.

BUT....

It's nice to see some HD filming for a change and not the yt stuff coming through. If we caught something REAL in high def that would would be something. As for this? the troller's attitude stinks, this is not what ATS is about, you WIN because someone posted their response??

Nobody wins or loses here. We are here together to look for things that we want to investigate further.

I can't stand this kiddy attitude. This site doesn't need it, there is so much crap to scrape through I don't have time to wade through pages of Testosterone.

If you want to see something worthwhile, the Southampton UFO footage in this thread is something to behold in my opinion, and it's slipping away into the rest of the crud in the ATS forum.. and no, i didn't post it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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You're right, I will continue to debunk everything that comes out of your keyboard now. You brought it on yourself.



Apparently its true outside of my "little mind" also.



Did I miss something here? Where is your proof? I didn't catch it.



Really? Who said that now? Me and you must be reading two totally different threads, because I was reading this one. Maybe you can point us to what you were reading.



And it may not be a bird. It could be a bug..or a bat...or a plane...or Superman. Who knows. But to automatically assume its an alien without question is ignorant in my opinion and doesn't have anything to do with closed-mindedness. And it is shaped like a bird, fyi.



And what are these obvious reasons that everyone seems to be missing? Why don't you present them?



I actually wasted like 30 minutes of my life watching your vids I am sad to say. I wish I hadn't.

INTERNOS!!! Where are you! Please come debunk this bullcrap once and for all! I think Internos hasn't responded to this thread because he doesn't deem it worth responding to. I can definitely feel him on that one.

Oops. I guess you missed this? All the way back on page 2.

They are some very poor videos.
if someone were trying to convince people in the existence of ufo's and alike, these are the last vids i'd ever show anyone.

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I had to watch several times all six vid's, one I can almost certainly say was a bird, the others looked pretty genuine. Still it's difficult to know because of the distance involved, of course one must have a gut feeling about such things, what with all the flakes trying to BS the public, such juvinile behavior, makes it hard for those really searching for the truth.

Before I post my reply.

I am a believer in UFO's and the Paranormal, and have witnessed around 3 ufos up close and personal in my life.

These are nothing more than birds, I am surprised no one even mentioned balloons lmao.

Edit for Curtesy:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 11-6-2008 by NGC2736]

Hrmmm I wonder why huge amounts of people registered over the last couple days. How did you find this out btw?

why was my post edited????

If you look under your avatar, it says the date that you registered.

There have been a whole lot of new thread by people who just registered.