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"Secondary Explosions" on 9/11: Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings

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posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 09:35 PM
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www.youtube.com...

"The Documentary That Can't Be Debunked."

Dozens of police, firefighters, paramedics, TV anchors, reporters, WTC employees and eyewitnesses discuss the numerous "secondary explosions" heard throughout the day on 9/11.

If you're wondering what happened to WTC 7, you'll find the answer in the first 10 seconds.




posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:10 AM
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Okay, you have three office buildings, 267 stories tall. I do not know about what you have seen, but every office building I have ever been in, gets cleaned on a regular basis, and most have first aid rooms/closets every few floors.

Now, you may ask, what does this mean? Well to clean an office, you need things like glass cleaner, furniture polish, floor stripper, floor wax, air fresheners etc.. And in most first aid rooms nowadays, you tend to find emergency oxygen bottles.

And on everyone those items, you will (or should) find a warning saying that exposing those items to extreme heat or direct flame will cause them to ignite/explode. In other words, plenty of items in an office building will go BOOM.

Not to mention gas pockets from severed natural gas lines......

Hearing an 'explosion' does not mean you are hearing a bomb.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Hearing an 'explosion' does not mean you are hearing a bomb.

Probably just cans of furniture polish and air freshener going off...



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Not to mention gas pockets from severed natural gas lines......

Hearing an 'explosion' does not mean you are hearing a bomb.

I guess that "suspicious device" that the FBI reportedly found in the video was a pocket of gas.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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Well, theres one sensible post.....you do realize that its not just ONE can...more like a couple cases..



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 10:45 AM
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What suspicious device in what video?



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by GoldenFleece
 

What suspicious device in what video?

Maybe you should watch the video before you posit your "exploding cans of Glade" theory.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999

Well, theres one sensible post.....you do realize that its not just ONE can...more like a couple cases..



My money's on transformer explosions inside both towers.




posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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Glad to hear that we finally solved what took down two of the world's largest buildings in 12 seconds each--it was cleaning products.

Well, all that controversy for nothing! And don't forget to put your Windex in a concrete bunker, folks!



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Seymour Butz
My money's on transformer explosions inside both towers.

You lose. But for sheer absurdity, the "exploding cans of Glade" theory still takes first place.

I'll give you a hint. The correct answer can be found by watching the video and paying attention to what the "federal agencies", police and firefighters say:




posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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Do you want to explain how do you get 110 floors with 47 steel/reinforced concrete cores to collapse at about the same time, straight down leaving nothing standing? That isn’t possible, unless of course a controlled demolition is taking place. As each floor hits a stationary floor that will slow the collapse down, not speed, as if we're in a damn cartoon. And more so, at the very beginning of each collapse "dust" is being produced. Now if dust is being produced where is the mass which caused the collapse? What can move mass out of the way to allow for this dust to be produced and the collapse to be rapid? Explosives......

And last but not least, we have many eye witnesses who were actually there on 9/11 who claim they heard explosives and "bombs going off". That’s an incredible choice of words. People seeing "flashes of light" around the entire building along with loud explosions. Now, im no fool but that is characteristics of explosives and a controlled demolition. Not to mention we see explosions occur 20-50 floors below the impact zone, thats something "air compression" cannot account for. There is no other explaination for that besides explosives, you cant refute that.

You mention Oxygen tanks as a form of explosive effect to explain away explosions within the Towers. I'm sorry but that is just nonsense. It's now justified to say your uninformed. First off these explosions and flashes of light I speak of occured BEFORE, DURING, and "AFTER" the plane impacts. Plane impacts dont "magically" cause multiple explosions "50 floors below" the impact zone, 30 to 56 minutes after the buildings have been standing damaged at 4 floors near the top.

What you need to understand is "wind, rain, water or fire" cannot account for these explosive "squibs" 30-50 floors below the impact zone. Only some sort of explosives can. You know what else is striking, these explosions not only occur below the impact zone, but they occurred in rapid secession within a synchronized manner, all the way around and down the building until it collapsed entirely. What we saw on 9/11 with the twin towers and building 7, we would NOT see in a natural gravity driven collapse. Its just impossible, I shouldnt even have to argue that point, thats common sense, but then again common sense isnt that common now is it.

Ohh this a fantastic one.... they found one of the lead hijacker's paper passport within the rubble of the world trade centers, YET INSIST THERE WAS A RAGING INFERNO. They want you to believe his passport jumped out his coat, morphed through the impact fireball, put on a magical shield, then slipped and slid its way through the collapse, then teleported into mid-air and lofted itself gently to be found by the authorities to "prove" one of the hijackers did it...must have been just a coincidence right...Im sorry Scarecrow knows bulls**t and he doesn’t have a brain, do you??

Peace

CR



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 09:08 PM
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In April of 2006, almost five years after the World Trade Center demolitions, human remains were found on the roof of the Deutsche Bank building (pic below) in New York City. How in the world did they get there? Those who chose suicide and jumped to their deaths could not have landed on the roof. If the North and South Towers simply fell down, that would not send people flying through the air. This is just one of the tens of thousands of questions that have arisen since 9/11. It is believed that the controlled explosions in the Towers actually blew humans outward in every direction. A fact is a fact. Human body parts were identified through DNA testing as belonging to victims of the 9/11 attacks.



Chief of FDNY's Fire Safety Albert Turi believes that explosive devices were planted in the World Trade Center Towers. He was in the buildings aiding in the rescue effort, and pulled his men out when he heard multiple explosions above and below him.

William Rodriguez is a former janitor who was in the North Tower during the chaos of 9/11. Known as the "last survivor out", he escaped death after saving many others. Since then he has been honored five times at the White House. He is also a member of the 9/11 Truth Movement. In an interview he tells of hearing multiple explosions in lower floors and other parts of the building. Columbia University's seismographs support his testimony. They have recorded explosions in the lower levels of the buildings eight-to-nine seconds before the Towers fell.





In a college lecture, Dr James H. Fetzer, founder of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth", tells of how steel girders were blown by explosives from the building as they collapsed. This is another convenient fact: The steel girders blew into 30 foot sections, making it very easy for them to be quickly removed from the Ground Zero sitebefore a thorough investigation, which never came, could have exposed the steel sections as being blown apart from one another, not bent, twisted, or melted.







Controlled Demolition the company that was in charge of removing World Trade Center debris at Ground Zero. This process was done remarkably fast. The wreckage removed was heavily guarded and quickly disposed of. Why the secrecy? What would analysts have found? Controlled Demolition also works with numerous government agencies, such as the Department of Defense, Department of Energy, Department of Housing and Urban Development, Department of Justice, and the Department of State.

MIT Engineer and Research Scientist Jeff King also is featured in the following video, explaining how controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers. He uses original, undoctored video from 9/11 to show the clear signs of explosives being used.



Morgan Reynolds, professor at Texas A&M University and former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis, served as Chief Economist for the United States Department of Labor from 2001 to January of 2003. Today he is a member of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and was the first of many prominent government officials to publically claim that he believes 9/11 was an inside job. In the following video he speaks about how "he saw the tops of both of the towers blown to Kingdom Come, and then progressively pulled out from the bottom with almost no resistance from lower floors which had zero impact damage and zero fire damage" . It is his opinion that the evidence is overwhelming that the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings was an inside job.



Securacom is the company responsible for the security of both the World Trade Center Buildings and Washington Dulles International Airport. Its director is none other than Marvin Bush, President George W. Bush's brother. How convenient that under his watch, the buildings in New York City were destroyed in a "terrorist attack". How convenient that under his watch, Flight 77, the 757 that "supposedly" hit the Pentagon, took off from Dulles International. There were also reports of strange occurrences involving security weeks before 9/11.

Because the North Tower, South Tower, and Building 7 were destroyed by controlled demolition, it is a fact that there were pre-positioned explosives throughout all three of the buildings. This takes weeks to put together. Many people had to have known that this was going to happen, and not one did anything to stop it. I find it amazing, disappointing, and embarrassing what our government can do and has done.

Peace

CR



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 09:16 PM
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The seismograph is the most damning evidence IMHO.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by gottago
Glad to hear that we finally solved what took down two of the world's largest buildings in 12 seconds each--it was cleaning products.

Well, all that controversy for nothing! And don't forget to put your Windex in a concrete bunker, folks!


I was waiting for the first childish response to come up. Should have figured it was going to come from you. I was pointing out that there are plenty of items that you will find in an office building that will explode when exposed to heat or flames. I did not say that it would cause structural damage, just loud explosion type noises. If you cannot comprehend that, then thats on you.




Morgan Reynolds, professor at Texas A&M University and former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis, served as Chief Economist for the United States Department of Labor from 2001 to January of 2003.


NOW theres an authority on explosives and construction..an ECONOMIST.




In a college lecture, Dr James H. Fetzer, founder of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth", tells of how steel girders were blown by explosives from the building as they collapsed. This is another convenient fact: The steel girders blew into 30 foot sections, making it very easy for them to be quickly removed from the Ground Zero sitebefore a thorough investigation, which never came, could have exposed the steel sections as being blown apart from one another, not bent, twisted, or melted.


Ah yes....the 30 foot section argument...now we had crews that planted explosives every 30 feet...and no one noticed. Yeah, and I would like to sell you a bridge. What does Dr Fetzer teach again?

Or maybe he didnt notice the hundreds of steel workers with torches cutting apart the beams so they could be cleared from the site.




Securacom is the company responsible for the security of both the World Trade Center Buildings and Washington Dulles International Airport. Its director is none other than Marvin Bush, President George W. Bush's brother. How convenient that under his watch, the buildings in New York City were destroyed in a "terrorist attack". How convenient that under his watch, Flight 77, the 757 that "supposedly" hit the Pentagon, took off from Dulles International. There were also reports of strange occurrences involving security weeks before 9/11


As pointed out on literally DOZENS of threads on ATS, Marvin Bush left Securacom's Board of Directors in June 2000. John O'Neill was in charge of security at the towers...not Securacom.




Do you want to explain how do you get 110 floors with 47 steel/reinforced concrete cores to collapse at about the same time, straight down leaving nothing standing?


Straight down? Thats why EVERY building around the site suffered damage, the towers fell straight down into their footprints. One of the more misinformed beliefs about the events that day.....




Ohh this a fantastic one.... they found one of the lead hijacker's paper passport within the rubble of the world trade centers, YET INSIST THERE WAS A RAGING INFERNO. They want you to believe his passport jumped out his coat, morphed through the impact fireball, put on a magical shield



And this just proves that you know nothing about aircraft accidents or the events that happened there that day.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
NOW theres an authority on explosives and construction..an ECONOMIST.


About as much as a vehicle autonomy specialist and integrated health manager.


Ryan Mackey is a research scientist at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, specializing in vehicle autonomy and Integrated Systems Health Management for aircraft and spacecraft.


911myths.com...



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 09:04 AM
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Scanning the thread....


Scanning......


Scanning......


Still scanning, but I do not see anywhere that Ryan Mackey is listed in this thread........



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
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Still scanning, but I do not see anywhere that Ryan Mackey is listed in this thread........


So, it's ok for you guys to bring in "no-planes", space based weapons etc. to debunk us when nothing has been even remotely said about them. But, when someone devalues a person's experience and/or expertise, I can't go a little off topic and mention another one? OK.

BTW, how's the fighting in Iraq? Got another day off?



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 09:27 AM
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You people really are ridiculous!!!!

Air freshener, polish, small cans, etc, would most likely not cause a large enough explosion to be audible over all of the other hell that was going on at the moment...

But oxygen tanks would! Transformers would! Gas pockets, exploding gas lines and the like would!

You're all so deperate to prove something more than face value happened that day you're sounding like a bunch of children?

Who here, any of you, is an expert on anything more than doing an internet search and reposting someone else's thoughts as fact?!?!?!



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 09:38 AM
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1. If it was just transformer and products in the buildings, then how do explain the fact that the eye witnesses said the heard them going one after another on each floor, and the floors were popping out?

2. How do you explain the seismographs?

3. How do you explain the fact that firefighters and police were told by their superiors that there was a device inside the buildings?

4. How do you explain the fact that witnesses say they heard explosions and then were knocked down by the force of them?

5. Why do the opinions of a handful of government paid experts who won't release the evidence they tested outweigh the experience of countless eyewitnesses, not to mention experts who have studied the films thouroughly.

Of course I forgot that eyewitnesses have 0 credibility unless they agree with what you think.



posted on Jun, 11 2008 @ 10:03 AM
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1) Have you, or anyone else been witness to a building pancaking floor on top of floor prior to this event? Are you very familiar with the type of sound that this would produce? I am not, but I can definately imagine that each floor collapsing on top of the lower could produce a very explosive sound. I can also imagine that as said building collapses, that the floors would pop out, one by one.

2) Three large building collapsing is bound to produce a tremor. The whole process would actually, from initial collapse to impact and anything falling or exploding thereafter. After all, several thousand tons of material is colliding with the ground.

3)Are you talking about the report that law enforcement/agents had found a suspecious device? Can you imagine how many suspicious devices were found that day? Can you imagine any half-way ordinary object seeming suspicious under those conditions?

4) Again, do you think those witnesses are familiar with what an explosion, looks, sounds and feels like in those conditions? Suddenly, it seems that all "witnesses" are all explosives or blasting experts. Explosions can mean a multitude of things. If there really were explosions, it was most likely office supplies, gas lines and transformers blowing, or possibly partial structural collapse.

5) I am not a paid governement expert; neither are several others on here who refute these theories. There are many, many others out there who refute them as well, and they're not kool-aid drinkers, and they're in no way associated with the US government. They're just basic people using common-sense.

Of course, that's what's missing in all of this, common-sense. Common sense tells us these things. Common sense doesn't tell us that there were planted bombs in the buildings, holographic jets, widespread government conspiracy or anything of the like.
Eye witnesses have plenty of credibility. But you have to put things in context. Context is something that's severely lacking on this board.



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