One thing I do know is that the way we are living is killing the planet we are living on. Beating someone else's butt becasue you can is only gonna get your butt beat next. Conquering the weak does not ring true in my heart as the way we should operate, but unfortunately it has been the way we have done things in the past. Look where it got us. We have to change. Unfortunately too many of us are addicted to instant gratification, hot dogs, TV, fast cars, nice clothes, supermodels, pills for problems and diet soda. Who got us there? You can blame advertising, big industry, education, government, religion, but we really need to take responsibility for ourselves and our own decsions. Now I know, now I am changing. Gaining knowledge is one thing no one can ever take from you. I choose not to live in fear any longer. Fear of alien invasion and them taking over is just another attempt to get you to live in fear, control and anger. It is a spiral downhill that has been picking up speed.
We used to think the earth was flat. The sun revolved around the earth. Some still think we are alone in the universe. Billions of stars in our galaxy, billions of galaxies in the universe. We are a few thousand years old as a species on an old planet in an galaxy in an old universe larger than anyone can imagine. But we are the only intelligent life out there. We should go out there and take what we can. OK, try it, see how far you get with that approach. It hasn't been working too well so far. I and like many others are choosing a different way. Take your own way, and if you so choose to try to head down the same path as I am, I would be more than happy to show you what I have learned along the way. We are all connected, we are all made up of the same stuff from this planet. We all will return one day. Enjoy the ride, it's just an experience. It's what you make of it. Make it enjoyable and worthwhile.
Metaphysical, Quantum physics are finally starting to say the same thing that the Mayans, Indians, Hopi, aborigines have been saying for thousands of years. Too much to be coincidence I think.

Good Thread,

Things you guys might want to look into is the alien encounters that dealt with Military and Presidential encounters and view the effect of that encounter with the direction or new laws passed -by congress- during that time period, how it affected the direction of the human race.

A lot of our top people in the world are being directed by outside sources on how to make the society function.

Say like when Hitler met up with an alien encounter, now that encounter what year did it take place what were the after results of that encounter.

I would make a Human Alien timeline of events that dealt with top people of influence upon the HUMAN CULTURE.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, others that have in fact been involved with alien diplomatics.

And yes there are aliens inside OUR WORLD working behind the scenes in ACADEMICS.

There are aliens among us is common society. Large crowds are an easy way to blend in. But those that are here for -maturation purposes- are most likely in human form from birth.

There are those that create Perceptional Field Distortion and may be projecting a human form when in fact alien in appearance.

[edit on 12-6-2008 by menguard]

actually for them to contact us on a grand scale would seem to be fairly easy. first selectively EMP the entire planet, this would have a consequence of focusing our attention, by shutting down all, but life-saving devices. station UAV's at critical points to offset any human advanced weapons shielding that might be engaged to retaliate. use the electrical energy in the air that surrounds the planet, to vibrate at a frequency we humans can use to hear sounds, much like an ordinary speaker. they would broadcast their intentions to all humans on earth. you would literally be hearing voices come from the sky. this bypasses any government or individual control, that they know would try and interfere with this type of full disclosure contact. with their advanced technology, this would seem to be a pretty easy way to address us as a whole species, and no human on earth would be able to "SPIN" this type of contact.

[edit on 12-6-2008 by jimmyx]

[edit on 12-6-2008 by jimmyx]

I don't see how you can say that you are certain with such a lack of physical evidence. All you offer is conjecture and your own pre-suppositional belief system. Most of, if not all of, your argument could have been taken from an episode of Star Trek. Who are the witnesses to your "UFO events". Your brother and your friends? Those are some reliable sources you got there.

Originally posted by jasonjnelson

I know they exist. A lot of you people also know this.

Yes, also there a lot of people on this site that "know" Jesus is coming back to save them from their miserable lives. Some people "know" Obama is a secret muslim. Some people "know" Saddam planned 9/11. I "know" the new X-Files movie is going to be terrible.

What a useless thing, knowledge.

Those that know, let's get together and discuss the "real" questions.

Well, since you've got such a good imagination, let's imagine you've answered the basic questions first. And let's imagine that somehow, the answers were exactly what you wanted them to be all along. So the first "real" question: "What difference does it make to us humans?"

For the record, flags on your thread do not equate to credibility. This thread has 40 flags and there's nothing credible about it. If anything, you're riding on the dubious credibility of other people. I don't have a problem with anybody believing in aliens, but this smug self-important persona people put on when talking about it is nauseating. And lay off the "if you're not riding my jock I must handle you with kid-gloves" stuff. I mean really, the only difference between hard core religious people and hard-core alien believers is the religious folks get tax exempt status. Although I heard theres a new Jedi religion in town with tax-exempt status, sounds like your kind of place

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Any intergalactic council would be prevented in every way possible by earth's governments to contact ordinary citizens of this planet. I believe that was the true purpose of the "Star Wars" missile program, to shoot down any friendly extraterrestrials should they attempt contact. Of course, as some authorities such as John Lear, inventor of the Lear Jet, have suggested, the US government is in contact with at least 16 alien races, most of which have unfriendly agendas. However, ordinary citizens can be contacted telepathically, so governmental plans to keep the people of planet earth in the dark has increasingly failed, as more and more people become aware of their "intuition" or, as I coin it, nuetrino psychic ability. I have concluded, and may be the first to conclude this, that telepathy can be explained scientifically by the existence of neutrinos, particles which, in a vacuum, appear and disappear randomly. One nuetrino easily could move from one mind, then, to another, carrying information. Any sentient species could then communicate in such a manner. The intergalactic council does exist. However, not all races are members. Kind of like a cosmic UN. Be warned, however, that earth governments are beyond deceptive, and so if you should see a mass appearance of aliens, consider the special effects of Hollywood, and ask yourself if satellites placed in orbit may be the cause of such mass appearances of alien craft, Jesus, whoever, whatever, in order to fool people and prevent them from realizing the true reality of such experiences and beings which assuredly will come at a later date after the "first" and false appearance of same. The best liars put out a false story before the true story emerges so you already have formed a (usually false) opinion before the truth surfaces. I highly advise against voting for Obama, by the way, who, according to my interpretation of Nostradamus, is MABUS, the "third" Antichrist. MAB backwards is BAM, and this would be typical of Nostradamus anagrams, and US is the US. Pretty simple. Pretty scary. Nostradamus puts this third antichrist on the scale of Hitler, but worse. This also fits with biblical prophesy. Bottom line, don't be fooled.

Originally posted by menguard
Good Thread,

Things you guys might want to look into is the alien encounters that dealt with Military and Presidential encounters and view the effect of that encounter with the direction or new laws passed -by congress- during that time period, how it affected the direction of the human race.

A lot of our top people in the world are being directed by outside sources on how to make the society function.

Say like when Hitler met up with an alien encounter, now that encounter what year did it take place what were the after results of that encounter.

I would make a Human Alien timeline of events that dealt with top people of influence upon the HUMAN CULTURE.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, others that have in fact been involved with alien diplomatics.

And yes there are aliens inside OUR WORLD working behind the scenes in ACADEMICS.

There are aliens among us is common society. Large crowds are an easy way to blend in. But those that are here for -maturation purposes- are most likely in human form from birth.

There are those that create Perceptional Field Distortion and may be projecting a human form when in fact alien in appearance.

[edit on 12-6-2008 by menguard]

Again, How do you know this? Was it Sleeper's thread where you got this info? Or was it another source?

Originally posted by ANTHONY33
I have seen countless ufo in the sky to the point that it doesn't surprise me anymore. I have seen some amazing things. It would usually happen that I would get this powerful urge to go outside and look at the sky and go out and see it. I have a pen lazier that I use to signal them and the sometimes flash back as to acknowledge me. Also if I go to some place such as Whitehorse hill at night with the intention of contacting ufo I usually get greeted in some discrete manner.

Wow, you must be truly special. One of those chosen by the Galactic Council to be the first to receive our new friends! By the way, if your pen keeps getting lazier and lazier, I recommend the Zebra Sarasa, it's a good pen and not lazy at all. In the mean time, how about getting one of those you know, cameras and get some proof of your experiences. And lay off the weed.

Originally posted by easynow
if there are so many alien races that they need a governing council as they claim...how is it possible that we dont have open contact with any of them ? you would think one race that doesn't belong to this council would have made open contact with us or we would have somekind of proof by now.

Hmm. That logic is a little broken. You say there probably isn't any council because if there was then some non-member would have contacted us openly. Well, if there is not council, then they are all non-members and wouldn't one of them contacted us openly? I think the lack of contact could also be called a lack of evidence. But then I'm one of the nut cases who thought that when the inspectors didn't find weapons in Iraq before the war, that meant there might not be weapons there.

Originally posted by easynow
Originally posted by easynow
if there are so many alien races that they need a governing council as they claim...how is it possible that we dont have open contact with any of them ? you would think one race that doesn't belong to this council OR A RACE THAT DOES BELONG TO IT would have made open contact with us or we would have somekind of proof by now.

So then, you are saying that there probably aren't aliens flying around? This, I believe, is the most sensible thing said on this thread or possible this whole ridiculous site.

Since I haven't bothered to read this whole thread, I'm going to state something probably already mentioned.

It would already appear that we've been manipulated by some types of intervention against that so called (star trek) primary directive. Crashed ships and reverse engineering them. Crashed ships with aliens cross breeding and possibly taking over human bodies etc.

By bringing this planet up to speed with certain space technolgies, may actually put us in another category that demands intervention and us falling under that alleged intergalactic councils rules.

It may also mean those at war with any who fall under a threat, will be fair game also.

Crashing ships with advanced technologies reminds me of the story of the Trojan Horse.

How do we know what or if some type of hostile intention was deliberately set, such as, in the ship that crashed at Roswell?

It would seem there's been intervention for thousands of years. For all we know, we were brought here to help our species survive and give it another chance. Without knowing the exact details of our history rather than fabricated ones, we're still lost in space.

It would seem it's too soon to know who is who and their true agendas. Some here believe they are psychic. That could also be fabricated and an illusion. Just because a majority claiming to be psychic have the same interpretation or vision, doesn't mean it's real or accurate.