Americans. Would you let the rest of the world vote for your president?

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posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 05:29 AM
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Not a NWO idea. But think about it. If the US president has so much power around the world, shouldn't those other nations have a saying on who should be the next president? I think it would be a great idea to have France, Germany and China to vote for our next president. And if so, who do you think they would vote for? And what of opening up to the rest of the world to our voting system? failure or success?

Who would Iraq vote for?
Who would Germany Vote for?

And why.

[edit on 9-6-2008 by jedimiller]




posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 05:50 AM
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that's impossible.

vote doesn't mean democracy. just because people choose between GOP and DEM dosen't mean people would get what they want.

both GOP and DEM are working for certain interest groups. neither for people all around the world nor for normal american citizen.

vote is just a ruling skill that make normal people believe that they are chosing their way. well actually they are not.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by zhangxi0183
that's impossible.

vote doesn't mean democracy. just because people choose between GOP and DEM dosen't mean people would get what they want.



I know it's impossible. Call it speculation. I was thinking more of the scene in star wars episode one where the galactic senate vote for Palpatine as the new chancellor. In it, you see the ET's vote against Valorum and other alien races. I think voting could become a global necessity during these war times.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:24 AM
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First thing on other countries voting for leaders, if we are going to do that we might as well just make a one-world government because everyone is going to try to vote for the candidate that will help them the most and not America. Also you have to be a citizen of America to vote, we do not vote for the French and British leader, so why should they vote for ours?

You do not get a "have a good day ol chap!"



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by jedimiller

Originally posted by zhangxi0183
that's impossible.

vote doesn't mean democracy. just because people choose between GOP and DEM dosen't mean people would get what they want.



I know it's impossible. Call it speculation. I was thinking more of the scene in star wars episode one where the galactic senate vote for Palpatine as the new chancellor. In it, you see the ET's vote against Valorum and other alien races. I think voting could become a global necessity during these war times.


The aliens in Star Wars were not voting for someone else's leader, they were all part of the same Galactic Republic voting against their leader.

I'm against the idea. The President would be a puppet if they wanted re-election. Yes, other nations are part of the world and the U.S. pres is powerful, but they are not living here dealing with our issues. If those issues spill over and are immoral and bulling to others nations- voting for our pres is not the way to help.

It would be interesting to see who each nation votes for, but would those votes be genuine and reflect the will of the people. Why not vote for some porn star or Bozo the Clown? Or vote for people who want to harm our country? Or, as mentioned before, someone to aid said country? How about Iraq vote for Hitler? Or the Klingons vote for Ghandi?I don't even see it as a check or balance either. It sucks being bullied But, it's not like our voting is coming up with decent people either.

IMO, if you don't live here, you don't get a vote. That includes the founding fathers.

[edit on 9-6-2008 by Paralaxx]



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 06:45 AM
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I disagree. I think other countries could choose a better leader for us. they know better than we do. America is a young nation. We don't know anything here. Europeans been around for longer than we have. We think democracy works, but what if it doesn't? what if the founding fathers had a dream and it wont really work? we can't ignore everyone else and create our own system anymore, we have to learn from other countries.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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Why not, we already let other countries tell us about trade and military operations.

Just kick it over to the UN for committee action. Give them a list, NO; they already have one... Let them just name the names for the parties.

Very doable and cheaper, other than under the table bribes to get on the list.

Great idea!



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:27 AM
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Hey, if we could get the rest of the world to do the same thing i think it might go a long way to improving international relations with certain countries.



flagged.

edit; perhaps this would be a good point to mention that i'm not american...

[edit on 10-6-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:36 AM
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Interesting concept. I mean, the US votes on other countries leaders. If we don't like them we remove them either by clandestine de-stabilization or outright invasion. Giving them a vote of some sort would at least make the US more accepting of our impact on the worl community. Un-doable but an interesting concept.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by jtma508
Un-doable but an interesting concept.


It's more than a concept, it's a solution to many of the world's problems.

Think about it; how many times has America or any other country been attacked for the decisions of it's leadership from an outside country?


Extremists are not attacking our countries, but the people leading them.

When American presidents in the past said "We will not negotiate with terrorists" i would love it if someone had piped up and said "Who are 'We' exactly?".

If the foreign extremists had the power to affect political change through peaceful means, i think an awful lot of people would probably settle down and get on with their lives, don't you?



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:41 AM
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we already do let other countries vote for our presidents.
you dont think americans are picking these idiots do you?

corperate globalists decide whos on the ticket and who gets on the news and then diebold gives them the results they want.

im sure other countries were deciding who will win our election at the bilderberg confrence this weekend. i wonder who Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange voted for this weekend?



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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I'm an American. I don't think i'm the first one to come up with this concept. But I think that other countries have the right to choose our president. especially if we americans are uneducated and don't know what's good for us. Majority of americans vote for the wrong person and we need the world to help us choose the right candidate. And if our president has the power to invade your country, then you should have a vote. I differ with the guy that says everyone should keep out of america. as an american, I welcome the world with open arms.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by TheRepublic

corperate globalists decide whos on the ticket and who gets on the news and then diebold gives them the results they want.



Yes, but they only get away with it because they're doing it un-officially.

It's very true what you speak, especially when you look at how funding campaigns are done nowadays.

But then, what you speak of sounds more like an excuse, than a reason...



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:52 AM
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believe me i am not excusing them. if i had my way every last one of our politicians involved in those confrence would be brought up on treason charges.

what im trying to say is that americans dont even get to decide our own rulers.
im just calling a turd a turd.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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Trust me when i say this;

You will never acheive progress by threatening people with punishment.

My solution offers a work-around that accomplishes 2 things -

1) It enables people the entire world over to vote, so we can more or less drop any pretense of "White vs Black" or "Woman Vs Man" because the entire world will have the ability to vote.

This will go a long way to improving our social standard of living, believe it or not.

2) All those people in the world who see capitalism for what it truly is and yet have no power to affect those who control capitalism will find themselves in a position to affect that problem, no matter how insignificant their vote is they will be able to have their say.

Which, i believe, is the true purpose of democracy.

You say Americans don't get to decide their own rulers, so what if it was The entire world that didn't get to decide who ruled America?



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:02 AM
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If you want that slimmed down into an easier-to-read example of my meaning, i'm essentially saying we should up the stakes.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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if your vote dosnt matter than whats the point where you live or who you vote for?

small government is better because it is easier to root out coruption that inevitably finds its way into the upper ranks of government over time. your say means more in a small election than a big one. anmytime you make government bigger it gets more corrupt and harder to control.

thats why world government proposed by these globalists is a horrid idea. who can take care of you better? a trusted nextdoor neighbor or someone in a shanty in beijing? or the queen of england?

well the next door neighbor definatly.
the chinese person may feel for you but probably wont be able to help
and the queen couldnt giv a poop about you or your family, and guess what it is elietist like her calling the shots, not well meaning average people from all around the world.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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*claps slowly*

Well done, you've completely missed my point.

Suppose it did turn out that despite the entire world voting, we ended up with a guy who to all intents and purposes is an idiot (not that such things don't happen already), what would happen then?

Well, presumably the idiot won't be holding another election, so we'd be left with someone who the world hadn't voted in as American president for a while.

Don't you get it?

The elite have power over Americans, because they are the American Elite, as such, they do not have anywhere near as much power in the rest of the world as they do in America.

Although of course they do possess the power to influence us financially, but that's a different point.

My point is that if American power isn't enough to deal with the problem, i'm all in favour of upping the stakes so we can add to the power that is already working to wrench America from the grasp of the elite.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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well i would say you dont get it then.

because the american eliete are not really true americans. they are globalist and globalist are by nature global. look at the bilderberger attendance list to understand this.

en.wikipedia.org...

bushes family tree goes back to william the conqourer. he is not just some american chump. he is the son of new england blue bloods decsended from european royalty.

my family tree goes back to an irish potatoe farmer and a german farmer.
most americans are like me. the ones in power are like bush. same crap diffrent country

the eliete are by nature global. they are globalists. they are not americans. thats why they leave our borders open while sending our troops off to god forsaken deserts. they are trying to destroy our country.



posted on Jun, 10 2008 @ 08:26 AM
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It's only succeeding because you are hesitant to accept others into America, or even to acknowledge that American interests have the ability to affect every man, woman and child on this earth.

Perhaps you should ask yourself, "Is America Paranoid?"






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