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LOL! The HOAXER, Prophet Yahweh is back, with new HOAXED UFO footage, says he will film a 'Landing

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posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
If ever there were a Religious Cult or Cult Leader that needed to be investigated in depth and shut down, it is this guy.


Well I am saying the same thing, sort of.

A real investigation needs to be done, as opposed to "armchair investigation".

Someone needs to get out there and watch him do this in person, talk to the eyewitnesses and find out what they think, etc etc.

But, real detective work like that takes time, money, resources, effort - it's much much easier to just jump to conclusions, declare things hoaxes and move on......




posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
He's definitely filming objects up there, and it appears he's gathering audiences in at least some of the clips. What these objects are, I will leave up to the viewer to decide.


Well...I just watched the first video with the news team and I have to say it is very interesting. I have no idea what he is doing or what the objects are. This guy seems a bit eccentric and yes he is colorful indeed.

Now...why is he a hoax and what evidence do you have of this? Has this been proven? If this is a proven hoax I don't want to waste my time on it.

Can someone clearly lay out how this is a hoax? I read he had people releasing balloons...can you showw me where to look for this? That news video ufo didn't look like a UFO but I coul dbe wrong.

Why is the title started off with a biased "LOL"??
Did I miss something? If so please enlighten me.



- Lee



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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But wasn't the ufo in that particular footage travelling right to left, not left to right? did the person who retrieved this piece turn it around so that it's facing the other way?



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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This is fun stuff,

Have any of you seen what Chris Angel can do? And he does it in front of cameras as well.

ATS should go to Chris Angel and ask him to become the official ATS debunker. If anyone can duplicate PY's antics its Chris.

Plus I totally agree that we must be given proof of UFO's before we drink the Kool Aid. It would be exciting to see the 100% definitve evidence. I also hope PY is wrong because I'm white and what he says doesnt bode well for me.

Anytime things are posted in a site like this ya'll should go to great lengths to debunk them. Because if you cant that means we just might be seeing the real thing. So instead of laughing at guys like PY just demonstrate him to be wrong and press on!

Scott



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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I'm always all for that, so we do agree in essence. I'm fairly sure what such an investigation would turn up though. The more I read, the more disturbing this man is to me. There are cases other than this one where I think we (including me) have been a bit quick to dismiss them.

I don't think this case is worthy of a real effort in my humble opinion. I sense you are frustrated more by other cases than this one. This one, I think, is a bad battle to pick.

If I am wrong I will soon be wiped out by "Black Jew Hebrew's" anyway. When I see that huge Temple show up in Nevada I'll be plenty interested. I wonder how many followers he has and why he went silent for so long after his initial predictions failed to materialize?



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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well IF Jehovah is Enlil (and sumerian texts suggest he is), and Enlil had a group he and others called "Enlil's black-headed people", he may be onto something in a biblical sense, but the rest of his interpretations are not as loyal to the text as his original studies in Isaiah. I think after a certain point, he lost his objectivity and the rest goes downhill.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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His real name is Ramon Watkins. You should read up on him. On earlier pages are some links and information. There is a huge thread here on ATS about him.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
I don't think this case is worthy of a real effort in my humble opinion. I sense you are frustrated more by other cases than this one. This one, I think, is a bad battle to pick.


Well, yeah, admittedly I'm much more interested in James Gilliland and the Mount Adams Sanctuary than this, and I think ATS has the best chance of discovering something real and amazing by doing a field investigation there


I find PY interesting though because his methodology is strikingly similar to Gilliland and CSETI, with the telepathic communications and all....



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:21 PM
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When I read his words, I get that hair standing up on the back of my neck feeling. I doubt God is interested in our skin color and is communicating only with this man and nobody else. He fits the definition of a Cult Leader precisely. We'll see after he gets his billions in his pocket.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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I wish I could go to Mount Adams myself
I'm convinced the accounts are authentic and people are being honest when relaying their experiences. Sounded like Springer is going to go. I'm more of a believer than I let on sometimes, but don't tell people that; it will ruin my image



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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It's odd that when someone claims hoax and you ask for the reasons why this is, you get hit with a "do your OWN research" rebuff. I mean...I thought we were supposed to PROVIDE the evidence of any claims made here to some extent. Especially if someone has clearly proven this man to be a fraud.

I see that he is certainly a bit nutty, and definitely trying to make money from his claimed abilities but what makes him any more dangerous or outrageous than any other person claiming similar abilities and or contacts with ET's.

Billy Meier for example has made similar (and even more outrageous) claims and provided his OWN photographic evidence which was so ridiculous it is laughable. I've seen photos taken from books and television sets he used to show himself in contact with aliens and having even time traveled. There is the "Marduk" guy that shows photos that I can create in 10 minutes or less using Photoshop (I actually did in one thread) that are claimed to be alien politicians among other things. We have the Raelian cult that I don't want to even get into.

Prophet Yahweh hasn't so far gotten nearly half the success, recognition or support that those hoaxers have received. None of them have even gotten a news crew to video the proof for them like Prophet Yahweh has. Yet I have come across multiple sites attacking him personally.

What makes him so dangerous that he must be stopped?

I can take his claims with a grain of salt like any other fraud...if he is one.
Why is there so much outrage over this man? Hell...apparently some of his stunts even backfired. This still does not make him a hoax, it could mean his attempt just didn't work. Unless of course he is just insane and wanted to make a fool of himself publicly there would be no reason to attempt such a thing with a wide audience unless you actually believed it would work.

He could simply be schizophrenic...but again that doesn't mean his claims aren't actually valid.


Originally posted by GUNSINWAR

Prophet Yahweh did the youth initiative program, developed an interest in weather balloons in early 97'




www.surfingtheapocalypse.net...



That doesn't even remotely look like Prophet Yahweh.
You can't claim any bearded black man in a turban is every bearded black man in a turban.

Again since we are told to do so I am researching this myself. That photo seems to come from this site: Computerclubhouse

The site states:

Working with staff and volunteer mentors (professionals and students from Harvard, MIT, and Wellesley), participants built scientific instruments using LEGO, Crickets (microcomputers developed at the MIT Media Lab), motors, sensors, and various other building and art materials.


I don't believe this guy fits the description of those who worked on the project. By his own admission he was in and out of jail or on drugs throughout his early adult life. I seriously doubt he was in contact with MIT, Havard, and Wellesley or was a student or professor there.

From his writings I can see that he is bigoted in terms of his religious views. He is homophobic in spite of having homosexual affairs himself early in his life. He seems to be slightly delusional and extremely paranoid based on some of his claims that he cannot substantiate have actually happened and the "voices" he claims to hear.

Yet still...there doesn't appear to be any proof that these are balloons or that he is releasing them.

Does anyone have anything that can connect him to the Beyond Black Boxes project and the creation of scientific instruments as well as weather balloon for those experiments?

I may try and email the author of the site, to find out more regarding who that man is but from the looks of it, that is not Prophet Yahweh. I could be wrong but I doubt I am.

He is definitely a weirdo but I am not sold on the hoax part just yet.

- Lee



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:51 PM
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i don't get the hair on my neck thing, but rather i feel sad that his vision of a heavenly, divine existence is enslavement of the rest of the planet (whites and non-hebrew blacks and orientals). by taking jesus (yeshua) out of the equation, the gentiles are not forgiven, are not grafted in to the tree of life, and we are right back to the days of pharaoh, but in this case, a very specific pharaonic line.

[edit on 9-6-2008 by undo]



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:51 PM
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From May 20 2008:



blog.prophetyahweh.com...

PY is claiming that he's about to launch another major effort to get his UFO summonings on TV and in the news.... if this is true, the next few months should be interesting



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by lee anoma
 


His real name is Ramon Watkins. You should read up on him. On earlier pages are some links and information. There is a huge thread here on ATS about him.


Yes I looked him up.

He seems to be a bit uneducated, poor and very obvious in regards to his money making plans with UFO summoning. So obvious he just states outright "I want to make money" lol. At least the other hoaxers were smooth about it.

Like I said though in spite of all that (including a very checkered past) I don't see the proof that he is a fraud.

Crazy maybe...but where was he busted and shown using balloons?

- Lee



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by undo



it looks like a giant dildo.


Very mature, and well thought out. Are you a specialist in the areas of dildo's? Especially "giant" ones"?

Because I have seen thousands of planes at that height as I lived right next to J.F.K airpor in NY. I can tell you with 99% certainty that is an airplane.

The guy is a hack, get over it. He uses ballons, and blurry video of planes.

Every major event he has predicted has failed to take place, that why theres a LOL HOAX tag on the topic.

So LOL at Yahweh the Hoaxer, and all of his giant Dildo supporters!

LOLZ


[edit on 9-6-2008 by Nola213]



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Blaine91555
 


i don't get the hair on my neck thing,


I'm having memories of the Heavens Gate incident. The saying itself just means I'm on guard and don't trust him based on an initial perception. In this case, his own writings. Jonestown also comes to mind.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 07:26 PM
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You don't consider the lack of a single good photo or video a bit suspicious? Remember, according to him, he can call UFOs at will and has been doing it for years.

What about his disappearing off the scene when his big prediction failed to happen?

What about his obvious concern about the wind in one of the video's?

What about the fact the objects look just like balloons at a distance?

Combine all that with his wild religious claims and up front racism, along with his admission he is out for huge sums of money so he can live in comfort while the rest of the world suffers?

I think it is incumbent upon him to prove his claims and not the other way around; especially under these circumstances.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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well that was kinda my point. It DOES look like a giant dildo.

But erm, no, I've never seen a giant dildo. Doesn't a giant one look like a smaller one only bigger?


Anyway...



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 07:49 PM
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No good videos?

www.youtube.com...





Also, you said he disappeared from the scene after his big predictions didn't pan out, well that's not true - for a while he had this "Contact TV" website where you could view a whole bunch of his summoning videos, where he had lots of witnesses around and everything.

For some reason he seems to have taken that down now and replaced it with this "UFO TV News" site.

But I specifically recall one video where he was driving along in a car and filming a UFO against a city backdrop, where you could clearly see cars, buildings etc. You could tell by the way the UFO was moving that it absolutely WAS NOT a balloon!



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 07:57 PM
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heaven's gate: i saw all the drama and sadness, retrospectively. i didn't even know such a group existed till the news of their deaths was already several months old.

he doesn't seem to be THAT kind of crazy. he seems more like a farrakhan type figure. i'm guessing alot of this is the end result of anti-religious propaganda in the first place, which goes in cycles of targetting one religion moreso than another, causing a massive influx of theoretical works on the subject, which in turn spawns new theories to make sense of the old data. and on it goes. when truth of it is, just reading the stuff for yourself should be the first order of the day. then reading other people's critiques or theories, after that, and so on. most people though, do that in reverse so when they come to the table, they've already got a set prejudice against certain aspects of the material.



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