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Russian Geologist can take pictures of the past

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posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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This is a story I read about awhile back about a Russian Geologist.

Here's some of the article:

Russian geologist, specialist for geophysical devices Henry Silanov founded a photo studio, in which one can see the collection of 80 unusual photographs – aliens, paranormal activities, people from the past eras.

When a girl was packing a camping tent, Henry was preparing his camera to take a picture of her. The girl stood up and came up to the man. Henry clicked the camera. When the film was developed, they saw the girl on a shot bending over the tent. The picture depicted the girl several seconds prior to the moment, when the picture was actually taken. Henry Silanov photographed not the girl, but the informational trace she had left. It does not sound scientific at all – the experienced geologist is aware of that. He would never believe anyone saying a camera is capable of photographing moments, which were over before the moment of shooting. The scientist would never believe it, if he did not take tens of such photographs himself.

He took the first unusual picture in St.Petersburg's Hermitage. In one of the halls Silanov photographed the throne of Russian tsars. The developed picture depictured the face of Peter the Great, who used to sit on the throne indeed. Silanov started taking photographs of the past. The geologist has a picture of the thermos bottle photographed on the grass. The image of the bottle is slightly covered with vague outlines of a bucket, which was used to keep fresh milk in. The image of the bucket is invisible, but it inexplicably appears on a film. Another photograph shows an old tree broken with a storm. One can see the pale shade of the tree top above the fracture too.

Henry Silanov uses unconventional cameras to take photographs of the past. Object-glasses are usually covered with a thin layer of magnesium fluoride to filter the ultra-violet part of the spectrum. However, Silanov believes this is the exactly the frequency, which allows the film to fix 'the memory of the field.' The scientist uses this term, because there is no better definition for the time being. Henry Silanov thinks space is a huge hologram filled with information about everything that was ever placed or moved in it. Certain conditions make it possible to 'turn the memory of space on.' The memory is materialized in light quanta, which retrieve images of the past. Many years of his extended experience in photographing equipment became of great use in the new hobby.

english.pravda.ru...

The way it's explained makes sense.

We know about the simultaneous nature of time. Einstein said the distinction between past, present and future is a persistent illusion.

So the past and future exist right now, it's just our perception can only observe it moment by moment.

So the past exists now but at a different frequency.

So some people are seeing ghost from people who have crossed over and others are seeing a person's energy signature from that moment in time.

You may take a picture and see the picture of a man and think it's a ghost. It might not be a ghost in some cases but the energy signature of someone who was standing in that spot 40 years ago.

If we can take pictures of the past, the next step would be watching video from the past.

You can watch Washington cross the Delaware or Lincoln giving his Gettysburg Address like your watching a TV program.

I don't think the governments of the world would let this happen because you could go back and watch what happened to RFK and JFK for instance and see if some in the government were involved.

You could go back and watch Egyptian Pharoahs or Babylonian Kings. It would be very interesting.

This would really be "The History Channel."




posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 04:51 PM
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Great thread,starred and flagged!So what about the future?Can you 'photograph'that as well?

Has his method been verified by anyone else and why hasn't this made mainstream media?(I know the government would hush it up,but something is bound to pop up somewhere other than here)

Also what were you talking about when you mentioned the 'Thermos' photograph that showed a bucket outline?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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The universe is a holograph.

The entire field of quantum physics all points to this being true.

I suggest those unfamiliar with the Holographic Universe Theory look it up:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 8-6-2008 by careface]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by jkrog08
reply to post by polomontana
 


Great thread,starred and flagged!So what about the future?Can you 'photograph'that as well?

Has his method been verified by anyone else and why hasn't this made mainstream media?(I know the government would hush it up,but something is bound to pop up somewhere other than here)

Also what were you talking about when you mentioned the 'Thermos' photograph that showed a bucket outline?


I saw this over a year ago and I've wondered why it hasn't made it into the mainstream.

I think it's mainly due to several reasons.

First - Governments would not want this technology to be in the mainstream. If Russia had this they could watch every top secret meeting between the President and his cabinet or when he talks privately with foreign leaders.

Second - Science is truly biased against anything paranormal. Even though this makes sense from a scientific standpoint it would be considered out of the mainstream.

I'm not sure if you if he tried to take pics of the future. I think it's just the past, but the future exist right now just at a different frequency.

I think what he was saying about the Thermos was that it was sitting where a bucket was sitting years ago and the photograph captured the signature image of the bucket.

[edit on 8-6-2008 by polomontana]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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Sounds like the wave nature of light got wrapped around something and took it's sweet time. Reminds me of that place in Oregon, the vortex. I wonder if this place in Russia is near any ley line conjunctions...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 05:40 PM
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Is there a link available that show his photographs? I would be interested to see pictures of the pyramids...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Pravda is not known to be a very reliable source.

Also, your article's from 2004. I've googled around and I don't see any of the pictures that he's taken anywhere.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 05:50 PM
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The lack of pictures makes me think its BS.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:03 PM
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I was waiting for the debunkers to come out of the woodwork.

It's BS or it's from Pravda.

I think so called debunkers are the biggest unpaid agents of governments and they don't even know it.

The story coming from Pravda has nothing to do with it.

What he's saying is scientifically sound. Nothing he says violates the laws of physics as we know them.

We have known about the simultaneous nature of time for years. If we can read about it, of course the Russian Government can also. So of course your not going to see any pictures of this.

Even if there were pictures, some people would claim their photoshopped and fake.

I truly think debunkers are useful idiots to governments worldwide.

If it's true why do you think the russian government would let it go any further?

I'm reminded of a quote from Hitler. He said:

"It's a fortunate thing for governments that the people don't think."



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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I truly think debunkers are useful idiots to governments worldwide.

Without debunkers, everyone (Including you) would think the toy in their cereal box is a government conspiracy.

Sometimes a plastic superman is just a plastic superman, not a high tech alien technological device designed to spy on your wife's menstrual cycles.

Oh, and I've also googled the geologist's name. All links lead back to the Pravda article. If this story is true, it would be huge and other media outlets would be talking about it.

[edit on 6/8/2008 by Hyzera]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by Hyzera
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I truly think debunkers are useful idiots to governments worldwide.

Without debunkers, everyone (Including you) would think the toy in their cereal box is a government conspiracy.

Sometimes a plastic superman is just a plastic superman, not a high tech alien technological device designed to spy on your wife's menstrual cycles.

Oh, and I've also googled the geologist's name. All links lead back to the Pravda article. If this story is true, it would be huge and other media outlets would be talking about it.

[edit on 6/8/2008 by Hyzera]


Your wrong on all fronts.

People use reason.

It's nothing wrong with being skeptical but most people who claim to be debunkers today are devoid of any reason or logic.

What was said in the article that goes against the laws of physics as we know them?

Why would this story go beyond Pravda once the Russian Government saw it and looked into it?

The fact that the only source of this story is Pravda actually gives more weight to the story.

Why would any government see something like this and then put it out into the mainstream?

This is what I mean when I say some debunkers are useful idiots. It's because they don't think.

Say if your a government and you do have alien technology.

The best thing to do is release that information to the public and then let the debunkers do your job.

This way things are left in the realm of conspiracy and the goverments can work on these things unabated.

This is why I say most debunkers today are useful idiots.

All stories from Pravda are not false.

If I'm the Russian Government I would release info to Pravda so the useful idiots can debunk it. This is the best way to keep things secret.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:47 PM
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The fact that the only source of this story is Pravda actually gives more weight to the story.
Why would any government see something like this and then put it out into the mainstream?


It doesn't have to be on the mainstream. If other news sources (alternate or mainstream) had written an article about the same subject, THEN maybe it could be true. I fail to see how the story being on only one news source (whose reputation is sup-par) gives it more weight and credibility.



Your wrong on all fronts.
People use reason.


What you implied in your original post was that there is no need for any debunkers. My superman example was an exaggerated one, but think about it. Sometimes basic reasoning won't cut it. Many people still believe the official 9/11 story. Without debunkers, ATS wouldn't exist.



If I'm the Russian Government I would release info to Pravda so the useful idiots can debunk it. This is the best way to keep things secret.


The best way to keep something secret is to not release it in the first place.

[edit on 6/8/2008 by Hyzera]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:51 PM
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I only take Pravda with a grain of salt, it isn't the most credible of site. As for this article it does have some truth in it, but there is a saying: the greatest lie is the one with the most truth in it. While this article and the geologist "MIGHT" be fake, there is no doubt the phenomenon is real.

Anyways this article gave us a hint of how to build this camera:
"Object-glasses are usually covered with a thin layer of magnesium fluoride to filter the ultra-violet part of the spectrum. However, Silanov believes this is the exactly the frequency, which allows the film to fix 'the memory of the field."

Why not build one and test it out.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:53 PM
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I would love to see this be real, but the lack of pictures and lack of other sources is really screaming HOAX to me.

The science behind his camera might sound real, but it could also be pseudo-science. We need a physicist to come and confirm.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Hyzera
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I would love to see this be real, but the lack of pictures and lack of other sources is really screaming HOAX to me.

The science behind his camera might sound real, but it could also be pseudo-science. We need a physicist to come and confirm.


Again you prove my point.

You come to a conclusion because it comes from Pravda.

This is what I mean when I say useful idiots don't think.

The term you used pseudo-science is the favorite language of the pseudoskeptic.

Nothing that was said in the article goes against the laws of physics as we know them.

The past, present and future exists only to the observer.

If you were to look at our timeline from a higher dimension, you could see everything at once.

It's like sitting in a stand at the racetrack. You can watch the whole track but the Jockey is limited to what he can see around him.

So the past exists right now.

This is not pseudoscience.

That term is so overused by people who don't think.

Science is about exploration and the term pseudoscience is about ignorance.

I'm reminded of something Einstein said:

"When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come to the conclusion that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing positive knowledge."

He also said:

"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift."

It really gets under my skin when people don't think and I hear terms like pseudoscience thrown around.

Again, if it's true why would the Russian Government let it go beyond Pravda?

So the question is not about Pravda, it's is the science sound. This gives credence to the story.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 07:40 PM
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I might not be able to think, but at least I can read. Note how I said:


The science behind his camera might sound real, but it could also be pseudo-science.


I was merely saying how since I am not a physicist, I do not know if the science stated in the article is true or false. 'Could' and 'is' are two different things.




You come to a conclusion because it comes from Pravda.


Once again, I might be an idiot, but at least I can read. I never reached my "conclusion" because it comes from Pravda. I said:


lack of other sources

If we step back and ignore the the name 'Pravda', this article still only has one source, which does not give it any more credibility.




Again, if it's true why would the Russian Government let it go beyond Pravda?

If they wanted it to be a secret, why would it be released in the first place? Since you don't read, I'll quote my last posts.




The best way to keep something secret is to not release it in the first place.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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I apologize if I'm coming off upset but terms like pseudoscience truly get under my skin.

Pseudoscience is a term that's usually connected to science when it's involved with things like the paranormal and ufology.

Most things labled pseudoscience are never refuted. Once you use the term then some people stop thinking.

It was a story released by Pravda and then it went cold.

This is what leads me to think it's true.

The science is sound and the story went cold. This leads me to believe the Russian Government got to him after reading the story.

Why wouldn't they? Like I said it's scientifically sound and if it could be developed by the government in Russia they would be unstoppable.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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What would be the Russian government's motive for "silencing" him? Afraid of unearthing government secrets? If so, then our geologist would need to waltz into a government facility in order to take a photograph with his modded camera. I wouldn't think that would be possible due to high security in such places.

If the Russian government did fund him, then they would need to get into for example, the oval office in order to take pictures with the camera. It would be very hard to do.

That's the conspiracy side to the story.

The more easier to explain one is that the story was a hoax. Or it was based on a true story, but got warped and twisted in the article.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Hyzera
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What would be the Russian government's motive for "silencing" him? Afraid of unearthing government secrets? If so, then our geologist would need to waltz into a government facility in order to take a photograph with his modded camera. I wouldn't think that would be possible due to high security in such places.

If the Russian government did fund him, then they would need to get into for example, the oval office in order to take pictures with the camera. It would be very hard to do.

That's the conspiracy side to the story.

The more easier to explain one is that the story was a hoax. Or it was based on a true story, but got warped and twisted in the article.



No they wouldn't have to waltz into the oval office.

Again, he called it the memory of the field. The article then said:

Henry Silanov thinks space is a huge hologram filled with information about everything that was ever placed or moved in it. Certain conditions make it possible to 'turn the memory of space on.' The memory is materialized in light quanta, which retrieve images of the past.

The key phrase is "turn the memory of space on."

If you had a device that can tap into this field, you could produce images and video from the oval office while in Russia.

So of course it would be a HUGE advantage to have for the Russian Government.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:53 PM
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If the Russian government has this technology, why didn't they expose their enemy's secrets yet?

This whole thing doesn't make sense to me.



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