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Originally posted by 8.nyx.8
I consider myself an Occultist,
and I am not quite sure how we fit in to coincide with the Free Masonery ?
That's actually the reason why I clicked on this in the first place,
I don't have high thoughts regarding the Free Masons,
or many other set beliefs/religions/cults/etc
So humour me,
I'm not quite used to coming across something
I have not yet heard about concerning the Occult.
Halloween is an appropriate time to learn that a "Grand Druid Council" of 13 "Witches" control the Illuminati, and meets eight times annually on the "Witches' Sabbaths" (incl. Halloween) when millions of occult practitioners engage in orgies, which sometimes involve human sacrifice.
My source is the highest Illuminati defector in history, a Witch High Priest, a member of the Council of Thirteen, and part of the Collins Illuminati bloodline that brought Witchcraft to the US in the 17th Century.
He casts the Illuminati as a vast, highly-organized and powerful occult conspiracy that holds mankind in a satanic vice.
The Illuminati are "thousands of different conspiracies operating in parallel," he says. For example, the vows and initiation rites of witchcraft closely mirror Freemasonry.
His name is John Todd (also Cristopher Kollyns). In 1972, when Todd was "saved," and exposed the Illuminati, he ruled a 13-state US region consisting of 5000 covens, i.e. totaling 65,000 priests and priestesses. That's just the ministers, not the congregation.
Originally posted by Phazon
Freemasonry, the Illuminati and other associated organisations all worship Lucifer...
You're good up to this point, then you start making stuff up…
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
First, a number of our Founding Fathers and Signers of the Declaration of Independence were Freemasons. There is nothing inherently wrong with Freemasonry, spiritually speaking. But that is where the Illuminati come in. Adam Weishaupt is said to have founded the Illuminati on May 1, 1776, based on the Masonic system of degrees and the symbolism and ancient religion and occultic practices. Masons and orthodox Christians fight over the occultic stuff.
Nonsense. The Bavarian Illuminati under Weishaupt were neither satanic nor luciferian. They simply thought the Catholic church held too much power and thought that men should not live under the control of tyrants, kings or popes. They were democratic, and slightly anarchistic, and certainly against the pope, so of course they were labeled as "satanists". Same thing happened to the Templars 400 years earlier…
Illuminati are Satanic and have inverted all the symbols and teachings of the Masons.
No, there really aren't. Springmier's book is a crock. There are obvious falsehoods on just about every page…
There are family bloodlines associated with the Illuminati.
No, You see Druids are where the spirituality comes in, Since king arthur and merlin were around NO ONE Has trusted liked or even ascociated with druids because they are believed to have knowlage pools large enough to break you down, Now...Dont you think that illuminati would worry aobut a group that hates them if they could have a group of people who have been consultants to kings and queens, Lived off the land and learned the land for 10 years, Did the same in town and all this, Why is it that druids were THE ONLY ONES WITH A HIGH LIFE EXPECTANCY at that time when everyone else died at 50...The Masons, were simply a Governmential Group created under somone who wasnt all there due to lack of knowlage about the substances around them in that time period, That is how alot of power hunger and Mania started back then.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
First, a number of our Founding Fathers and Signers of the Declaration of Independence were Freemasons. There is nothing inherently wrong with Freemasonry, spiritually speaking. But that is where the Illuminati come in.
Again NO! the major illuminati simbol is on the american bill, The Pyramid with the eye, The illuminati were considered "Satanic" because they are Pagan...They have egyptian beliefs, Why the Vadiacan and churches hate us so much is because well...I talk to templars and THEY ARE STILL IN THE VADICAN they just branced off so that the church didnt become too powerfull and the pope wasnt being blamed for the Templars doing...since i heard the word illuminati as a 10 year old child ive studied them the templars the masons the druze the Druids ect. i myself and a druid, i strive for knowlage, and this next quote is something that poped up for me sorry JoshNorton.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus Illuminati are Satanic and have inverted all the symbols and teachings of the Masons. So, Illuminati is somewhat embedded within the Masonic structure.
Well...i can honestly say i am part of a blood line of druids, Blood lines of druids tend to lead back to illuminati or Masonic runins, about 40 years ago i had illuminati in my family, about 70 years ago i had masons in my family, And about 300 years ago i had templars in my family...honestly a blood line is broken but it can be folowed, Why we call it "Imposible" now is because Forensic scientists arnt Physicists they dont "JUST KNOW" that EVERYTHING is "Improbable" untill proven IMPOSIBLE in your lifetime/Vacinity because we change an outcome from observing, We freeze the molecule in time so we observe changing the outcome.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus There are family bloodlines associated with the Illuminati. This is where the Rothschild and Rockefeller conspiracies come in.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
What if I do not believe in The Devil/Satan (who I assume you mean by Lucifer)? How can I worship something that does not exist for me?