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There is a discipline under the scientific field called Archeology..also the field I think is called Paleontology. I don't exactly know the name of the scientific discipline but it has to do with Maps and studying terrain..not just currently but also looking back to ancient times as to how the land and its contours were configured. All of these are scientific disciplines.
Very strange statement you have made here. If the catholic faith is not Christian it must be Pagan. You are using a pagan template to describe and define the shortcomings of Christianity. You don't see a problem here??
Not possible ...Jekyll. Our Father Abraham ..did not take part in the pagan abominations of the nations surrounding him. This is recorded..as Abraham being Faithful.
I'm saying that they are not Christian because they do not follow Jesus' teachings as they should,not because they have been influenced by paganism.
Hinduism predates the faith of the Hebrews by about 3000yrs.
I know this immediately and instinctively because a Christian has no such instruction to define themselves by anything to do with their sexuality.
This is a standard M1 issue propaganda format of the Gnostic, sophists, wise men philosophies. You can find this dogma clearly in real occult books dealing with all the variations of occult religions...including the body politic existing today.
But Essene Nazarene Judaism was not the only form of Judaism. A violent, flesh-eating form of Judaism based on bloody animal sacrifice became the dominant religion in Israel. The nonviolent, vegetarian Essenes were persecuted by the animal sacrifice cult. Both forms of Judaism expected a Messiah: the sacrificial cult expected the Messiah to be a warrior king; the Essene Nazarenes expected a Messiah of Peace, a spiritual King. And so it was that the Messiah of Peace, the spiritual King of Israel, came to earth through the Essenes; for it was the Essene scriptures and prophecies that proved true. And so it was that the Essene Nazarene Jews, practitioners of the authentic Judaism established by God through Enoch and Moses, BECAME THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIANS!
As to the Vedic faith ..it has all the problems associated with it that is to be found in European Feudalism...no fruit which was to help the ordinary peon to rise above the subsistence/grass hut level. You can see this anywhere you go in history from the middle east...
You are obsessed with fruit.
I also find it highly amusing that you believe America hasn't totally succumbed to the 'Whoredom' you talk of.
"I know this immediately and instinctively because a Christian has no such instruction to define themselves by anything to do with their sexuality."
This is because the Christian has killed the feminine element of life.There is no Goddess,no Heavenly Mother,there is only the masculine.
The Vedic were a very advanced culture.And the Middle East is not called the Cradle of Civilization for nothing.The cultures there had towns and cities built from stone while people in Europe and Asia were living in 'grass huts.'
The average person in America....even poor persons live far better than a king did anywhere on the earth ..500 years ago. How do you think it was in Vedic cultures or any other Ancient culture...Goddess or not??
As to what effect it has had on the world..it has spread this progress around the globe.
As to Jesus being an Essene...Not possible. I read the link you posted. YOu do not see Jesus teaching or preaching Kabbalistic principles..
[li]all of these rights were both supported and denounced by different portions of the christian community...
to say that all those advances that have made the peon's life better was because of christianity is bogus...
what changed was that the people rose up and demanded more from their leaders, and well stripped them of much of their power...
beheaded a few if I remember right...
remember, serfs and servants, slaves are too busy struggling for their daily bread to waste time thinking of new and better was of baking it!
Thus demonstrating to those who can see....what they are. A feudal government of royalty.
As to the name of the religion..it is called Christianity.
The Kabbalah has to do with Hebrew doctrine as practiced today. It also has to do with Talmudic and Occult doctrine practiced by many non Hebrew sects today. Neither of these were practiced by Jesus or his followers. They have their origins in the nations which the Ancient Hebrews were told not to do as these other nations were doing...for it is abomination.
here in the United States is a nation which did not begin with the feudal Occult principles as did Europe, the Middle East, and the Orient.
These systems were no different in the fruit they bore than were the systems of the ancient Royalties...the Egyptians, Babylonians, the Assyrians, Persians, Greeks and the Romans, The ordinary peons in these nations lived at a basic substance levels or lower...while the royalties and priesthoods lived well off the labor of others.
This could only happen in non Catholic countries...where the concept of divine right of kings was not believed by the bulk of the peoples..and it most certainly was not believed here in the USA...even before our revolution.
Since that time no monarch of England dared to declare themselves divine right.
Poor people today are the same as poor people throughout the ages,they have to worry about food,shelter,work etc.
[iChristianity is a creation of Paul,not Jesus.
The 4 biggest land owners of the conquest of America were Spain,Britain,France and Holland.
And the menial workers of today still live at a basic substance level,even in America.
The French Revolution.France.Catholic.
The Peasants' Revolt.(1381)England.Catholic.
The Engelbrekt Rebellion.(1434)Sweden.Catholic.
The Peasants' War.The Holy Roman Empire.Catholic.
Originally posted by EricD
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
So, while the oppression of women in Islamic society is now talked about at length, why don't we take the same tone with Christian oppression of women?
I'm fairly certain that the likelihood of women being considered less than equal in Christian households is effectively a statistical anomaly. I would tend to believe that the the rate of women being treated as if they were less important than men in Christian households would be similar to the same rates in German -American households, Brunette households and People Over Five-Eight households.
I also believe that you are equating 'different' with 'unequal'.
Poor people in America live better than poor people anywhere in the world. This cannot be accidental. This means that there are enough surpluses to support so many poor peoples. This was not the case in Kingdoms 500 years ago. It is not the case in many non American countries today.
This is textbook socialist politic Jekyll. All people who work for a living worry about these things..not just poor people.
LOL LOL Jekyll. Are you a politician...using the political method. A political education. The term I used is the United States...meaning beginning with the Constitution of the United States as ratified by the convention in Philadelphia in 1787.
News to me Jakyll. What I see here Jakyll..is poor people.."victims" with cell phones, beer,cigarettes...drugs etc. I know of some of them even on the public dole. Government housing, food stamps. Many of them more worried about the latest scores on tonights game.
I was refering to regicide..the beheading of King Charles the 1st. in 1649
This is the first time in recorded history that a people had ever executed thier King. This could not have happened in a Catholic country..due to the grip of Divine right of Kings. It happened first in England.
This was not the case with Cromwell and the Puritans after the execution of the King.
If this were not true..the Queen would not have to dismount and ask permission to enter the olde City of London. No divine right.
Originally posted by megabyte
They were venerated in the wicca traditions for having a nurturing womb, and never for having a life creating essence themselves.
Women were thought to be born without a soul because they lacked the life creating essence and that is why in Islam for example there are 72 virgins waiting for the males in heaven but nothing really to compare for the women - she will be waited on - and that is all.
We were talking about the King,not the Kingdom.
There are many millionaire's who still work,i doubt they worry about such things
The United States existed before that time.John Hanson was the first American president.www.marshallhall.org...
After 1787 the US became the Independent United States.
And the Articles of Confederation were revised to grant Congress power over foreign and domestic commerce,and providing means for Congress to collect money from state treasuries
I see you are one of those people who sees poor as one thing only.
You really need to look into Cromwell's actions in Ireland.Atrocities a plenty.
in this book it sets out the premise that religions and philosophies developed that considered females to be inferior because everyone could see sperm and no one could see the ova so it was thought that all life-giving essence came from males, and the females were just an empty oven to make a 'bun in the oven' [the euphemism for pregnancy]
so all the major religions are phallic religions and venerate male superiority because he has the power to create life - just like god has the power to create life.
Jekyll..you are going off on a tangent here. No one recognizes the Articles of Confederation as the beginning of this country as it was a failed system.
As to the Queen or any other Sovereign dismounting ...I know what the City is ..the olde City of London. This too is not covered by history in this country and most Americans think London is the same as any other city in England. Neither her Sovereignty or Divine Right are recognized in Olde London. The Sovereign must ask Permission after dismounting at the gate.