reply to post by MrBender
Is your last post a plea bargain??
Let me begin by asking for the third time ...the name of the god of gender inclusiveness??? I am still waiting for an answer to this question.
Very strange way or method you have of making a point about women and men.
I dont like to use statistics simply because I know statistics ...charts etc ...can be made to read many ways by skilled peoples. I simply use what I
know and observe.
You post these examples of male power.
Here are some possible headlines:
Suicide bomber kills 40
Serial killer on the loose
Student shoots classmates and then kills self
I cannot believe you post this stuff as an intelligent debate point. Talk about stereotyping..talk about being programmed...stamped out like a xerox
machine copy of whatever drivel is being spoonfed to us this month as intelligent social drivel.
What you are posting here in the above quoted examples are of male powerlessness...not male power. What you are posting are examples of
confusion....give me the name of the author of confusion...the god of confusion. Do I need statistics and charts to make this clear?? And while you
are at it....it is the same god as the god of gender inclusiveness.
If you are wont to use this poor type of tack once again..I must wonder or ask myself ..into what dicipline were you educated.
Sorry to be so abrupt Mr Bender...but like MIMS you seem to get so much backwards...and then are wont to use charts and statistics to prove your
points. It simply does not wash with people who know better.
Watch how this works...for those of us who can think outside of the standard educational,default programming..ie..brainwashing.
You keep throwing these scenerios out here which have been going on sinice before the dawn of recorded history. You would think that someone out here
would have solved the problem by now...especially with such highly intelligent peoples at the helm.
Walking down the road in fear...your kidding right??
You do know that statistically ...most violence in this country and in the world is against men...yes? Men against men..not against women. You do
know this correct??
Are you as an educated person..a diciplined person who believes in equality...arguing for the point of approving violence against men but not against
I dont have to read charts and statistics to know what I state here is a true statement...I only have to look at a weeks worth of local headlines to
know that most violence is male against male..not male against female.
What does this trend in thinkng, this tack, tell me about the social value of males in this world. What does this tell me about who is in fact
oppressed....who is expendable and disposable?? See how easy it is once you get your head out of charts and statistics. None of this line of thinking
is to be found in the charts and statistics unless one can see around the corners..like backwards through the mirror.
However..conversesly..what I do note is that the women in Western Christiain Society are becoming more and more violent. Translation of that is that
they are catching up in violence equality...ie..powerlessness. Once again I dont have to read statistics on this..just read the local section of the
newspaper. Perhapsed this is the path to equality..violence.
Most violence is not men on women..it is men against men. Try another tack here please. Your tack here is very sexist by the omission of this simple
Neither am I a large person. I do not however..feel the social obligation to take risks for another ...male or female..gratis..or at my expense in
time, moneys , and labors.
I am a machinist/nuclear fueler by trade..installing fuel cells in reactors. I know what risks I take in life for my moneys...both on and off the
I have however taken several women to the gun club to which I belong and taught them how to shoot. It is up to them as to whether they want a gun or
not for protection..ie..equalization. I do not advocate violence. Self defense yes..violence no..not against females nor males.
I dont spend alot of my valuable time and moneys concerning myself with what women fear. That is their responsibility and obligation...not mine. I am
not a ox...for the purpose of pulling a wagon loaded with stuff..while a bunch of women...in "Options" choose to put more stuff in the wagon for me
to pull for them. ....gratis. This to me is oppression. I also dont accept this wagon pulling for other men. Both of these groups need to be
thoughtful as to what it takes to pull the wagon for themselves.
I have told many a woman ..I am not intrested in the burden of their insecuritys, fears,...inabilitys...especially at my expense/risk.
Trust to me is fine. Defaulting through..especially on social ignorance ...or religious entitlement strategys is not. Entitlement strategys
....particularly of an Occult nature...hidden ..concealed from view are what I try to spot in thinking ....particularly in our politicians. In
politics ...entitlement is a sure way to get votes for the overly emotional ..particularly on the public purse. I am not the public purse ..for women
I can spot this standard default thinking in both Yours and MIMS posts. I am often wont to put Light on it. Statistics and charts are not Light.
And once again...this is not a patriarichal society...it is a Matriarichal society masquerading as a Patriarichal society.
Did I ask you to give me the name of the god of gender inclusiveness..who is also the god of confusion??
Gotta make haste now...lots to do today.
[edit on 20-6-2008 by orangetom1999]