reply to post by madnessinmysoul
LOL LOL LOL LOL...Madnessinmysoul...you still beating this dead horse to death???
I think you are talking about the Western Christian heavily patriarcial society which supresses women to death.
You know Madnessinmysoul..earlier this month of June and several times in the month of May I went into the Orange Place..Home Depot and got to
witness for myself the downtrodden brow beaten women of America. These browbeaten downtrodden women were giving their men directions to pick up this
heavy load of landscaping timbers, patio blocks, mulch...etc etc...and the men were actually doing it without complaining...total compliance. Then
these patriarcial men were following their women around with the flat bed or shopping cart and taking more instructions from their women. And you
know what Madnessinmysoul...when it came time to check out at the cash register...these men were taking more instruction in a patriarchial manner and
paying for all this stuff...under thier womans instructions. Did I miss something here about how downtrodden women are in this Western Christain
social structure. Did I miss something about how Abusive this structure is ..economically??
I cant speak for where the rest of the people out here live but here on the east coast about half or more of the drivers out here are women...and of
those half ...care to guess how browbeaten, downtrodden, and socially backwards they have it while driving, walking around and talking on thier cell
Care to guess how many women out here are posting on computers purchased by thier men and at great risk to the men on their jobs/occupations.
Conversely, Madnessinmysoul, how many men are posting on comuters purchased by thier women? Care to take a guess??
Lets take this further Madnessinmysoul...
If you know about how secondclass citizens are downtrodden and browbeaten...into submission..in economically affluent Western Christian social
structures...than you also know what sex is the dominant determiner of what kind of vehicles are purchased at the new and used car lot...correct?? Any
new or used car salesperson can clear it up for you as to how downtrodden and browbeaten the women in Western Christian economies actually are. One
would have to be publically educated in nonsense not to understand it. Women in this country are the number one determner of what kinds of vehicles
are purchased..not the men. The men do however make most of the payments on them and pay for maintaining them on one method or another.
Doesnt sound to me like men really make all that many decisions in the Western Christian nations Madnessinmsoul.
Watch how uninformed and presumptious this statement of yours is Madnessinmysoul...
Also, in both Catholic and Protestant households, women are highly subservient to men to the point where they aren't allowed to make any
sort of decisions, this, however, varies depending on how extreme and is far from universal in all Catholic and Protestant households.
This is like..super dumb dude. Take a deep breath, get a good breath of fresh air and look at any department store or any shopping mall around you.
How about grocery stores.
I will continue with this tack since I have posted this several times before on both ATS and BTS forums. The floorspace dedicated to merchandize in
most department stores is about 7 to 1 female verses male. This represents alot of purchasing power...a tremendous block of purchasing power...this
also by default reprersents alot of decision making.
I simply cannot understand what caliber of nonsense you are spouting off and thinking no one else out here can catch it or think it though for what it
actually is. I see you so often playing this veiled "Victim Card" with such boldness ..yet it is obviously so bogus once one sees what is around
them in Western Christian social structures.
Women in the west ..by default ...have such tremendous economic and decision making power. Yet you in your veiled entitlement strategys ...are wont to
paint them as victims and downtrodden...browbeaten. What nonsense Madnessinmysoul.
I can only conclude that you have gone to public schools and majored in Emoting and never outgrown it. IT is a lifestyle to you . You seem so bold
with this type of nonsense you seem to think that it plays through by entitlement and no one out here will catch it, see it , or debate it for what it
This Western world was not built by Emoting ..it was built by thinking and alot of hard work...ie...RISK by our forefathers.
You throw in the RISK and thinking which must accompany it..and you leave most of the people by the wayside. RISK is going to seperate the women from
the girls and men from the boys ...immediately.
I will also submit to you Madnessinmysoul...that in Western nations before about the year 1519 AD western men and women lived as poorly as any other
people in the world...even poorer than some. Up to in including this time AD 1519...the status economically anywhere you went in the world a few
people had a little ..the priesthoods , and royalty...and the rest had almost nothing....yes these rest took most of the risks for what the few had.
This economic system is known as Feudalism.
It was some 200 years after AD1519..that some observers began to write and see that there was a difference in the standard of living ..economic
results among some Western Peoples and not among others.
I will also submit to you that if you want to make a difference in nations like Saudi Arabia...you move there and keep up the good fight. THese are
soverign nations and how they run thier buisness is thier buisness..not mine....nor yours for that matter.
I also submit to you that before you attempt such a powder puff fluff ...emotional train wreck of a OP on such a topic...you think through that there
are people out here who can think beyond thier emotions and who know what real RISK is to earn their moneys/livelyhoods. Emote pieces and fluff..do
not get it for them.
The willingness of the Male in Western Christian social structures to take RISKS for the moneys he earns and turn it over to his woman and children
for decision making...is one of the greatest social adaptations recorded in history...yet you are wont to dismiss it in posts like yours as not worthy
of consideration. You treat it as if he is making second class citizens out of the rest of womanhood. What nonsense.
In case you didnt get it I will do this again...the willingness of the Male in Western Christian social structures to Take RISKS for the moneys he
earns and take second class status...behind her decision making..is one of the greatest adaptations of all times. I dont see the Victimization going
on here that you describe. If this were so ..our economy could not support the 7 ti 1 ratio in goods and services you so obviously see out here.
Particularly in big ticket items.
This is not a Patriarical Social structure. It is a Matriarchal Social structure concealing /hiding itself as a Patriarical Social Structure in order
to play through by such nonsense as you post undebated and unchallanged.
Only institutionalized ignorance and entitlement strategys can make one posts such nonsense thinking that no one out here will catch it or post
against such drivel.
Thanks to all for thier posts,
[edit on 14-6-2008 by orangetom1999]