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What role does Love (not sex or reproduction) play in the Universe?

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posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 12:37 AM
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I probably sound really stupid to some people, lol

but i just wanted to know>>>

how many people think that without concious "love" (as in the love between life and lifeforms) the universe would cease to exist?

(like, if you believe in God, or any diety or religion, what do you think would exist if they weren't to love, or if based on love, themselves didn't exist?)

Does love have anything to do with the cosmos?
Is love something "deep", maybe like a phenomenon, that has to do with reproduction and the survival of species?

Why is it implanted in us to "survive as a species?"
Is there a deep love in us that we want to continue? In all liveing things, even plants? To have children?
Does love have to do with attraction? (and thus which deals with the laws of attraction and gravity, the attraction of things to objects with greater mass)



Thankx

haha, i'm not like a nympho or anything, so don't think this is wishful thinking or anything, i just want to find a ReAsOn for love (not really the type where animals just hump each other)

Does love keep the universe together, ie, when people get married, it is believed that they join souls, and are ONE. and you know when people say that "everything in the universe is connected, is ONE, is made by ONE or something? Could there be any connection between the two and this, um, "deep" "love?

again, sorry if i sound really stupid, you don't have to tell me how awkward it sounds, lol




posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:24 AM
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Its purpose, in humans, is to help ensure that a couple's child (and their heir, genetically and often territorially) will be raised. It works by making -through hormonal manipulation - both partners more desireable to each other than they normally would be, even if in reality they aren't the "perfect couple". It is an important evolutionary function.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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Wait, so the point of love is to perfect things?

But what is the height of evolution then?
To make things perfect and as desirable as they can be?

Is this the main goal of the universe?

Is love the thing that combines and combines and combines until things are perfected in the final end?



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:08 AM
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Everything has a dream of perfection. I have found that if I spend a lot of time gardening, I have dreams of the plants in their perfected states.

These are not some fantasy of mine. I truly believe they are the plants sharing their desire with their caretaker. I have dreampt new leaf geometries for strawberry plants which have simply astounded me. Like technical architectures to maximize their potential for sun, water and earth. With understanding of the behavior of the plant, something I did not have before.

Emotions produce energy with the intention of the emotion. These energys seek fruition. Seek love, feel love. And you call love down upon yourself and those around you.

Love is the vibration, the force and the flow of the creative energy of the universe. We have inherant plans and like the plants need the creative force of the universe flowing through us to grow toward the dream. We both require and manifest love.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:11 AM
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The goal of life, as proposed by some physicists, is to slow the process of energy transformation.

The goal of evolution by natural selection is to produce creatures more "fit".

The goal of genes is to reproduce themselves. They can do this by programming the organism they are in to help their own kind, to raise their heirs.

Of course I am speaking stricly in anthropomorphic terms. In reality, these things happen out of physical and chemical reactions. They don't have a "goal". Things happen because they happen.

It's really mind-boggling if one gives it a thought.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 03:36 AM
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Wow there are alot of book-worthy quotes in there! Bravo


I like that, "Sharing their desire",
like when they don't know the exact future, or what exactly it is that can be achieved to perfection, but 'destined for greatness' and something beautiful. So instead, love manifests beauty, and not nessesarily perfection. And true beauty attempts reproduction?

What role do you think would God, or some other being, play in this role? Would he be the dreamer of our fruitition, the "beginning gardener", or might he be something more spiritual, like love?

IDK, i really like where this is going though.
Great thoughts on that!



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 04:05 AM
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The goal of life, as proposed by some physicists, is to slow the process of energy transformation.


Not to disprove that, but why would nature want to slow energy transformation? I think we're changing this earth (and maybe, soon, other planets) faster than they would by themselves.




The goal of evolution by natural selection is to produce creatures more "fit".


Fit for what? Fit to in their environment? But technically everything is "evolving" all the time. Why does does the universe need this "change", this "evolution" of space and time, (which all require the coordination: love) to advance and perfect/beautify itself? For hope of someday an eternal peace? Heaven? Why is higher intellect an "advancement" for the future of all galaxies of now and forever? What is the goal of the entity of the universe? Is it trying to adapt and be a part of something else? and "get fit" for something else by evolving and coordinating itself with greater reasons?




The goal of genes is to reproduce themselves. They can do this by programming the organism they are in to help their own kind, to raise their heirs.


Why are genes created to survive? Since all other matter is destroyed (as theorized) into black holes and whatnot, do you think genes are the the universe's technique to not be deleted, it's 'evolution' to live no matter what? WOW
Is "LIFE" the universe's immunity for elemental obliteration? That would be amazing!
You know, how alot (i know there are other planets like ours probably out there) of planets don't get a chance to grown life, but, like scattered seeds, some manage to actually produce life, thus intellect and intelligence, so as to cooperate with the universe, as you say, by being the universe's product "fit" things to withstand it's matter's destruction, and thus ensure survival of it? Cooolio

I do think they have a goal, lest it probably wouldnt happen. As Cyberbian said,


Emotions produce energy with the intention of the emotion. These energys seek fruition........We have inherant plans and like the plants need the creative force of the universe flowing through us to grow toward the dream.


As shown in human activity on earth, and with the earth and other planets and sun, it could be that there are things that connect everything together, this a deep version of 'love'. Like we all of the bigger things have a great intention and purpose to create smaller, beautiful things that in return, inspire us to enlarge the bigger whole with many perfected things (beauty).
So not nessesarily a "goal", but a bigger dream, something it feels it needs to be a part of, connect with, via this "love".

........... oh wow this is really tough to think about! i'm glad i quit thinking of this stuff ALL the time on a regular basis, like while hanging out on the beach with friends and stuff, haha.... just made me boring cuz i was so confusing, lols.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 05:03 AM
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Great post!!!

I have some input on this that I have gathered over the years:

1) Bruce Moen, author, and 'star' student from the Monroe Institute, reveals some very interesting stuff in his series of books, about the interest from some alien species, and some interdimensional beings - in what they term "pure unconditional love". In a couple of his out-of-body adventures with other students, he encountered beings trying to measure and quantify what love is - they had no clue that love can only be 'felt' or experienced - a concept totally beyond their comprehension.

2) A few UFO/ET experiencers I have read of, or have interviewed, have commented on the 'weird' interest their respective ETs had in the emotional existence experienced by humans; in the fact that humans experience 'reality' as individuals (apparently most of them have telepathic societies, hence no 'individuality as we know/experience it) and especiallly, in the emotion/feeling of what we call 'love'.

3) The Ringing Cedars series of nine books, about the Russian girl "Anastasia" maintain that when God created the Universe and Earth; that "man" was made special - in two primary ways:
a) in that we exist on ALL planes of existence simultaneously (even though we only focus our daily personality matrix through one range of frequencies) This is also claimed by several other sources, including some indiginous cultures
b) that something called "LOVE" came along and added to the essence and spirit of God's creation of mankind - hence making mankind doubly unique.

Whatever the case maybe, there is certainly a lot of observable interest, gleaned from both literature and personal experiences, that the experience of LOVE, especially pure, unconditional love (ie the sort of love you have for your newborn child) is of great interest, and even importance to many other races and species of beings.

peace

Duncan



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