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Max Hardcore found guilty in obscenity trial

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posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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The Porn industry victimizes women. That's the issue. it is obscene. You know it is whether you admit or not. If any of yours daughters was doing it you wouldn't like it.




posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:13 PM
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oooohhhhh!!
...hhhmmm
...you naughty girl



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Yosimitie Sam
The Porn industry victimizes women. That's the issue. it is obscene. You know it is whether you admit or not. If any of yours daughters was doing it you wouldn't like it.


Are they being victimized when they willingly sign a contract?

Are they being victimized when they get paid?

No.

Your statement is without fact, and is based on nothing more than emotion.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:18 PM
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Within reason? And what opinions should be silenced? That determination is made by whom?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by slackerwire
Within reason? And what opinions should be silenced? That determination is made by whom?


Well, the jury in this case.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by AshleyD

Originally posted by slackerwire
Within reason? And what opinions should be silenced? That determination is made by whom?


Well, the jury in this case.


Simply because people don't agree with an opinion certainly doesn't mean it should be censored/penalized.

That goes against the very foundation of what this country was founded upon.

It would be interesting to poll that jury and find out how many of them attend church on a regular basis.

unpopular opinions must not be censored in any way, in fact they should be held up as a shining example of what freedom truly is.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by slackerwire


Are they being victimized when they willingly sign a contract?

Are they being victimized when they get paid?

No.

Your statement is without fact, and is based on nothing more than emotion.



Yes to all the above. Most of them are feeding drug habits. Its a victimization industry and those who spend money on are as morally guilty as the producers.

You're probably a victim yourself....



Who are the Victims Of Pornography?

Boys and girls that have lost their innocence by viewing pornography at an early age.

Wives of men preoccupied with pornography and the sex industry.


Women who are being treated with disrespect and sexually abused.


Young women trapped in an industry that exploits them and uses them as mere sex objects.


Children used for the sexual satisfaction of fathers, stepfathers, and men they trusted.


Young men exposed to a false image of sexuality.


Men who just can't stop using pornography or stimulating themselves while recalling those images.


A society that has become desensitized and dependent upon sex-charged images.


Neighbors that have increased crime and decreased property values because of the proliferation of pornography in their communities.

These people have real faces!

www.victimsofpornography.org...

[edit on 6/8/2008 by Bigwhammy]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Bigwhammy




Yes to all the above. Most of them are feeding drug habits. Its a victimization industry and those who spend money on are as morally guilty as the producers.



How about an unbiased source for your claim?

For argument sake, lets assume you are correct.

Whose fault is it?

Well, who decided to develop a healthy drug habit in the first place?

If the porn industry was so intent on victimizing women, monthly health screenings would be mandatory why?

I'm probably a victim myself? What a ridiculous, unfounded, ignorant assumption.

Pull your head out of your ass, it will do you some good.



[edit on 8-6-2008 by slackerwire]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:31 PM
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yeah, some choice for women...let's see...paper hat and name badge making min.wage, no bene's, slingin' burgers, with no future, all the while the managers trying to get you alone in his office ...or porn...great choice. maybe you should go and become a good sumaritan and offer those women a high paying job where you work. alot of the women in porn didn't have the ability, chance or opportunity to take the path of a collage education and a good paying job and they got tired of giving "IT" away for free to men who make too many promises and keep none. so they decide to charge for "IT" while they have their beauty and youth. if you don't want porn... offer real life solutions.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:33 PM
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Simply because people don't agree with an opinion certainly doesn't mean it should be censored/penalized.


Nice try.

Opinions are words and ideas. We're not talking about opiions. We're talking about our daughters being degraded for the pleasure of sickos. NOT OPINIONS



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine, right? Free speech. Uh rah! As for me, my opinion that I will freely speak is that the simulated rape of a minor exceeds the bounds of good taste. It is the woman's right to partake in the film. It is the man's right to watch it. Let's just hope that it doesn't cause a man to act out his fantasies on an unwilling victim.

That is my right to think such a thing just as it is your right to defend pseudo kiddie porn.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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Thats just stupid!

Either a waitress or a whore are the only options hahahahaha. Your grasping at straws to defend what YOU LIKE dude. Women hate it.

They can go back to school. Join the military they'll pay for it. theres loads of opportunity with out selling youeself as a WHORE



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:43 PM
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I agree. There is loads of opportunities but they require you to actually work hard for your money, hence the reason many of these women decide to go into the porn industry. College takes a long time and dedication, porn takes a nice body. Moving your way up the corporate ladder takes a long time and dedication, porn... just requires a nice body. See a trend here? They have options, they choose to not exercise them.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Bigwhammy



Nice try.

Opinions are words and ideas. We're not talking about opiions. We're talking about our daughters being degraded for the pleasure of sickos. NOT OPINIONS


Our daughters? Is your daughter involved in porn? That why you feel the way you do?

Feel like a failure as a parent?

[edit on 8-6-2008 by slackerwire]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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A bit off topic but I love your avatar!


Sorry for the one line



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by slackerwire
 


That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine, right? Free speech. Uh rah! As for me, my opinion that I will freely speak is that the simulated rape of a minor exceeds the bounds of good taste. It is the woman's right to partake in the film. It is the man's right to watch it. Let's just hope that it doesn't cause a man to act out his fantasies on an unwilling victim.

That is my right to think such a thing just as it is your right to defend pseudo kiddie porn.


Make no mistake, I am not defending the content, but his right to produce it.

Consenting adults, private contract, no damage to anyone.

Laws against a very subjective topic like "obscenity" are Unconstitutional, and nothing more than an infringement upon peoples personal liberties.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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30% percent of the women that have went into the military have been sexually harassed or worse. that has been reported on major media... and that's your answer to their employment opportunities??? not counting the fact that their lives are in jepordy in the field of battle, if they are assigned there. again, that's a hell of a choice.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:51 PM
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Then don't let your daughter do porn. If they don't do porn, they'll strip or hook. It's not like banning porn will solve anything.

Then it will just go underground and be run by gangs (like everything else on the black market).



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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well the answer for women sure isn't porn. What a sick joke to advocate that.

Women are harassed precisely because of things like PORNOGRAPHY - we live in a rape culture- women are sex objects.



Rape culture is a widely used term within women's studies and feminism describing a culture in which rape and other sexual violence are common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media condone, normalize, excuse, or encourage sexualized violence. Within the paradigm, acts of "harmless" sexism are commonly employed to validate and rationalize normative misogynistic practices; for instance, sexist jokes may be told to foster disrespect for women and an accompanying disregard for their well-being, which ultimately make their rape and abuse seem acceptable. Examples of behaviors said to typify rape culture include victim blaming, trivializing prison rape, and sexual objectification.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Yosimitie Sam
The Porn industry victimizes women. That's the issue. it is obscene. You know it is whether you admit or not. If any of yours daughters was doing it you wouldn't like it.


People are responsible for their own actions (PERIOD)

Nobody points a gun to their head and makes them do porn.

Don't like it, don't watch it. Stop trying to force your values on others.




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