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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Wonderful...So now, because of a handfull of megalomaniacal tyrants running roughshod over our nation and doing whatever they damn well please despite our objections, we're GROUPED IN with them as a "force of evil"? Do any of these folks have any idea the percentage of opposition the masses here have against this admin's out of control war-mongering and profiteering?
With great power comes great responsibility
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
I am surprised however how little understanding so many posters have had.
But to be fair, look how we, American's behave at some sporting events. We will pick a fight with someone because they are wearing a Jets jersey in a Giants section, it doesn't matter if the guy is with his kid or not.
And damn, you English blokes with your futbol! Look at the stadium clearing brawls those games have.
Now if we can get all hating each other over a sporting event and are from the same Country, State, and even neighborhood. Then it sure doesn't take much to start hating other cultures, religions, political party, etc... and people in geographicaly remote areas from ourselves.
Originally posted by mobydog
So people thinks that USA is "Evil" because of Bush... Hmmm... that's just being politically polite.
I have a different take. Nearly every freaking President, that the US people ever voted in, have a war in his term. Most wars having empirical motives and fostered with lies from the "Fair, Free, investigative and Balanced" propaganda news networks, leading people to think that the intentions are good, moral and obligated, as if they owns the world. But when the true intentions are exposed.. what did the average Americans do ?.. Nothing at all. And kept voting in one president to the next, from only two Parties, who waits for each other to mess it up. while both takes funds from the same corporations, then once elected starts kissing the arse of duo citizens from Israel BTW, really runs the country.
That, in fact, made every single voting Americans complicit to every crimes that USA does around the world for decades. Starting from Monroe doctrine in Latin America, Chile, Palestine, Tibet, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, venezula, Panama, Serbia, Africa in general, Iraq and Afghanistan. Not to mention nearly every one of them have "Death Squads" phenomenon.
So, stop saying it "my president", it's the "the Administration" fault. Change to the next president and everything is OK ! It's not OK ! many innocence had died. It's techically every voting American's fault. Many foreign policies and military adventure qualifies many of your official representatives and military outfits in Hague.
Why not regime change ? It's pretty much the answer to ends all answer when Americans have no problem vocally advocating for it, when it comes to countries they presently don't like or aren't compliant (Well, actually what the Mass media and Israel tells them) Zambawee, Venezuela, Myanmar, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Somalia and, to some extend, even China and Russia.
Isn't that the in-thing... why not allow other countries to arm and support questionable groups (terrorist and Death squads) and plant agents (NGOs for humantarian mission) to destablised America. Have their Media demonise your president and top officials, and plant WMD news and appalling human rights violation. (all valid) Isn't that what USA is still doing, while most of their voting populations are still cheering them on ?
Why not regime change ? when America and Americans have no problem telling other that's it's a good way to have an Pro-american govt in place instead ? If you see no problem happening in other countries .. why not America ?
Either that or you people could start a revolution (Choose any colors not taken up yet) and start from a clean slate. Or slowly.. very slowly.. degenerate.. and con't voting from either of the two parties.
Originally posted by Daniel666
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Yes i agree! I am from South Africa, and that is my impression as well.
USA reminds me of a big, dumb kid! trying to do Good, but just messes everything up!
Originally posted by zealman
reply to post by azzllin
With great power comes great responsibility, if that power is abused then the rest of the world suffers, just look at the price of fuel at the moment. Even though I live thousands of Kilometres away from the U.S, I still suffer when it's economy turns sour. I get lumped into the Coalition of the Stupid camp when I travel overseas as I am a white Anglo Saxon, it's not until I open my mouth and tell people where I'm from do they then apologise then shake my hand.
Americans should be less paranoid about other countries and more focussed on the inequalities in their own country, after all they have the biggest armed forces in the world don't they? New Zealand has 4 million people, we have a good standard of living and we have a tiny defence force. We have no U.S military to protect us here, no jet fighters in our airforce, and guess what, we are far less paranoid even though Indonesia is only around the corner.
My point is that if the U.S wants to rule the world, then the world should be given the right to vote in the U.S elections, only fair I think,....true democracy eh, that way the not so intelligent Americans who vote for people like Bush would be out voted by the intelligent folk who make up the rest of the world.