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Master Mason Ritual Transcript + Password!

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posted on Apr, 2 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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I am a Freemason. Those who fear us are merely ignorant.

"Ecrasez L'Infame"
Voltaire




posted on Apr, 22 2004 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Disastro

I laughed and made my way to the bar for another drink. Looking through the kitchen area i saw a door that had some inscription on it and thought to myself "voila!" Waiting around for nobody to look i opened the door and snuck inside. I stood there for a second looking at the twin columns and some of the other decorative insignia on the wall. All of a sudden a voice from nowhere asked 'what are you doing inside here?' I spilled my jack and coke all over my shirt and jumped about three feet in the air and noticed an elder lady sitting in a chair by the door hidden in the darkness. I tried to explain that i just wanted to see the interior of the hall as i had an interest in the Masons. I was told to immediately leave and she got up to escort me out. I apologized for the intrusion all the while trying to convince her that my intentions were not devious.

Any help with this would be appreciated.


I can only summize regarding the actions of the lady you have mention. Who really knows the workings of the female mind?

a) She might have been the cleaner.

b) Here in the UK, it is common courtesy etc. not to take drinks, especially of the alcoholic variety, into the Temple. The same rule may be applicable Stateside, (perhaps the Brethren over there can shed some light.)

c) You did not mention that any action was taken, or whether someone came over later to speak with you about it. Therefore, it is safe to presume that no real harm was done, and no offence was taken. Perhaps the lady had no real business to interfere, but could not resist the urge. It has been known.

I hope that has helped.



posted on Apr, 22 2004 @ 12:09 PM
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I wonder if the older lady may have been merely helping out, keeping an eye out for mischief. If it was party with alcohol involved, who knows what kind of damage someone who's had a few too many may have attempted, even if it was accidental.



posted on Apr, 22 2004 @ 12:10 PM
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And yes, it is frowned on in my Lodge to bring in beverages of any kind into the Temple.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 12:31 AM
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In answer to the original posting about the secret "substitute password" - yes, it is still relevent.
But it is not just a case of saying the one word - the whole examination procedure is quite verbose and your conviction, polish and flair are more important than just knowing the verses and grips.
In any case you will be expected to give your codename and number to the examiner who will then contact your parent lodge to verify your details before you are granted "full accesss."
In the modern world of mobile phones and internet this can be verified almost instantaneously.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 05:40 AM
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*** Freemasonry Watch is a hate propaganda site. Ed's website addresses most of their myths, and offers documented facts to back up his argument.
The webmaster of Freemasonry Watch refuses to identify him/her self because these person is fully aware that the website constitutes libel, and if his identity were known, could be sued.
"Libel" is defined as any malicious attack on an individual or group's character with a blatant disregard of the truth. Such is Freemasonry Watch. ***
Actually I’m not aware of any hate literature on the Freemasonry Watch site, “Morgan” who I know through correspondence explicitly refuses to publish any of it, as he is trying to keep the site up and has to run a squeaky clean ship.
He is fighting a continual battle against false accusations but his new ISP is a lot more savvy to the basic trickery that used to get the site put under temporary lock-down on such a regular basis that it was only up half the time.
Heck, one time a bunch of guys even blagged their way into the ISP and walked off with his server!
There is no hate literature on this site and all of the information on it is constructed from unedited quotes from books that you can buy through regular channels or from Masonic Handbooks and the like.
Quotes from any publication that would be deemed “Hate Literature” are explicitly avoided because there is enough stuff from other sources as to make their use unnecessary.
The link at MasonicInfo.com merely points to another site that it claims debunks FW entirely, all it does is supposedly (and unconvincingly) debunk the Leo Taxil “hoax” letter by Pike to the members of the Consistory stating that “…Lucifer is God, unfortunately so is Adonay…” the principle and context of which is actually mirrored on the very last page of Morals & Dogma!
No doubt this was also part of the “hoax”…huh?



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 07:03 AM
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Interesting note about Freemasonary.

I attended a church for awhile recently, a born again fundementalist church. I didnt join it in the end for a few reasons, but one of the things that came up was generational curses. Like if your grandfather was involved in porno and never repented, then God vists that sin on to his children etc. The bible says that God repays to the 3rd and 4th generation.

Anyway theres a massive debate on this subject because of Jesus Christs death for the sins of the world. If you accept Jesus then ALL your sin should be gone, but some churchs , like the one I checked out believe in the curses and laws of the OT and that they still apply even after your saved.

Where am I going with this? One of the guys at this church told me that his grandfather was a mason and he had to consciously repent of this so he wouldnt get cursed. Its generational curses , brought down the family tree and the major thing is occult groups like freemasonary, this church believe that if you or any member of your family was involved in it you will suffer a curse for it unless you actually repent of it. Even though you didnt do it yourself and had no knowledge of it, they seem to think that its a like a licence for the devil to get his hooks into you or something, because in your blood there were people who worshipped satan and or got power from him, so the devil has access to the entire family.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by TruthStrgnrThanFiction
Interesting note about Freemasonary.

I attended a church for awhile recently, a born again fundementalist church. I didnt join it in the end for a few reasons, but one of the things that came up was generational curses. Like if your grandfather was involved in porno and never repented, then God vists that sin on to his children etc. The bible says that God repays to the 3rd and 4th generation.

Anyway theres a massive debate on this subject because of Jesus Christs death for the sins of the world. If you accept Jesus then ALL your sin should be gone, but some churchs , like the one I checked out believe in the curses and laws of the OT and that they still apply even after your saved.

Where am I going with this? One of the guys at this church told me that his grandfather was a mason and he had to consciously repent of this so he wouldnt get cursed. Its generational curses , brought down the family tree and the major thing is occult groups like freemasonary, this church believe that if you or any member of your family was involved in it you will suffer a curse for it unless you actually repent of it. Even though you didnt do it yourself and had no knowledge of it, they seem to think that its a like a licence for the devil to get his hooks into you or something, because in your blood there were people who worshipped satan and or got power from him, so the devil has access to the entire family.


That is very strange, for two reasons. For a start did not Jesus state that he was replacing the old with new, " the former things have pased away" etc?

Secondly, whatever happened to personal redemption through recognition of the propitiatary sacrifice of the Lord?

If neither is true, heavens knows how long we British people will be made to suffer re: the Boston tea party etc.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by MrNECROS
Actually I’m not aware of any hate literature on the Freemasonry Watch site, “Morgan” who I know through correspondence explicitly refuses to publish any of it, as he is trying to keep the site up and has to run a squeaky clean ship.


Even a casual glancing over shows that site to be hate propaganda. It continues to use the Church's outdated anti-Masonic hoaxes as if they were fact. I have no idea who Morgan is, but the webmaster of that site is female, and used to be a regular poster on alt.freemasonry. She posted her own hoax claiming that a NY Times article listed Pike as a member of the KKK, and gave the date. All it took was a short trip to the library to prove Freemasonry Watch a liar. The FW webmaster did not apologize for attempting to deceive her readers: she merely turned tail and left.


The link at MasonicInfo.com merely points to another site that it claims debunks FW entirely, all it does is supposedly (and unconvincingly) debunk the Leo Taxil “hoax” letter by Pike to the members of the Consistory stating that “…Lucifer is God, unfortunately so is Adonay…”


Even the Roman Catholic Church, to whom the FW webmaster of FW belongs, has admitted that this was a hoax, and that Church, although it continues to take an anti-Masonic stance, no longer uses the Taxil hoax as a propaganda tool. See “The New Catholic Encyclopedia” by R. Limouzin-Lamothe, under the heading “Taxil, Leo”. Also see this article “Devil In A Red Fez” that was published in U.S. News’ Famous Hoaxes issue: web.mit.edu...


the principle and context of which is actually mirrored on the very last page of Morals & Dogma!
No doubt this was also part of the “hoax”…huh?


There is no such doctrine “mirrored” in Morals and Dogma. Pike was a Unitarian, not a Dualist, and was also a Kabbalist, as is made very clear to anyone who has actually read his books. The last page of Morals and Dogma concludes an elaboration on Pike’s belief in the universal dynamics of equilibrium, a mystico-scientific doctrine of Kabbalism that prefigures Einstein’s theories. There is no mention of what you claim. Also, Pike spelled the Hebrew word Adonai, which literally means “governor”, with an “i.” Only French and German speakers have transliterated it “Adonay”, which is an incorrect spelling. Pike, a noted Kabbalistic and Hebrew scholar, would not have made this error, although it spelled in this incorrect way in Taxil’s (who was a Frenchman) published books.

Fiat Lvx.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 03:59 PM
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its called gnostic dualism, white is black & black is white, which means evil is good, good is evil. Satan is the opposite of God, what did you expect? Lucifer is their god, sacred geometry is the language.





Originally posted by TrueLies
I just found out this weekend my grandpa and uncle's grandpa were freemasons.

My grandma and him got divorced because

she was a devout catholic and they make a mockery out of jesus' death in one of their rituals. They believe
lucifer is the real jesus, and jesus is the bad guy, this is from what I read.

My grandpa is dead now, and my grandma always believed that he was evil.
Although he left her, she went to his funeral and placed these soul saving thing around his neck. Cute eh.


My grandma even believes masons are behind alot of things that go on, they believe that everybody should strive to be more like them. She's been keeping logs of stuff for 10+ years.



She also believes that they masons/illuminati placed homosexual men in the catholic church because the catholic church is their biggest fear. They know that it's easy to oust other religions, but catholicism has been around for a long time and it's the foundation of many societal beliefs et al.

So they placed homo priests in the churches so they would come out and people would start walking away from the church so they don't take it seriously anymore.


masons are trying to incorporate many beliefs upon us, slowly but consistently. Like the chinese rain drop on your head.


Oh and she also says that the nwo biggest battle is going to be with the yellows. I don't know if she means chinese or japanese, but she said it's the asians , whoever the yellows are.


weird , the only two pres that weren't masons were
lincoln and kennedy.


She also says the world elite have already starting a one world government, economy, they met in san fransisco in 1995. They had another one in Tennesse back in 02, they had another in Alberta a couple years ago. g8 nations or something.


I'm just trying to remember and i'm not to good a processing information or regurgitating, because I only remember bits and pieces of the puzzle.
I'll get back to you guys on this.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 04:03 PM
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JFK opposed them, he was killed in front of the Dealy masonic plaza, at the "33rd parallel". As was Lincoln, who opposed them. Both VP's that replaced them were masons. Its ritual majik...



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Knightmare
JFK opposed them, he was killed in front of the Dealy masonic plaza, at the "33rd parallel". As was Lincoln, who opposed them. Both VP's that replaced them were masons.


Neither Lincoln nor JFK opposed Freemasonry Lincoln had applied for membership in a Chicago Lodge, and was accepted. He was murdered before he could b initiated.
Kennedy, who was a Roman Catholic, was not a Mason. However, he was a Knight of Columbus, and chose a Mason as his vice president.

Fiat Lvx.

Its ritual majik...



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 04:21 PM
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Masons climb the ladder don't they?

I don't believe someone when they say they are a mason

Mason rituals vary

Masons help each other.

Masons are everywhere but the more important ones and what they do is a mystery.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 05:48 PM
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Masonic Light
Clearly you don't understand the context of the supposed "hoax" letter - it was actually Pike stating that despite being given the freedom of will and liberty which is represented by Satan one must also acknowledge his responsibilities and respect those of necessity represented by Adonay.
This is one of the principle teachings of Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret 32nd Degree and is represented partly by the hermaphroditic figure.

In reference to the spelling issue, Pike spells it both ways in various texts, just as he interchanges various names for the various identities in Freemasonry and religion, On for Osirus etc…

More or less - who cares if the letter was a fake or not?
The same ideals are espoused all through M&D as well as his and other works by Masonic authors like Blavatsky, Levi and Crawley.

If you can call a Papal Bull "hate literature" then you may have a point - perhaps you should take this up with Pope John Paul II who reaffirmed the Catholic Churches stance against Freemasonry in 1983?

If you want to base the allegation that FW is debunked by the presence of a Papal Bull and a claimed hoax letter in amongst the 1000s of article displayed there, then you are very closed minded indeed.



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by MrNECROS
Masonic Light
Clearly you don't understand the context of the supposed "hoax" letter - it was actually Pike stating that despite being given the freedom of will and liberty which is represented by Satan one must also acknowledge his responsibilities and respect those of necessity represented by Adonay.


Actually, it was Taxil attempting to slander Freemasonry because he had been expelled, and had an ax to grind. This was documented in my previous post.


This is one of the principle teachings of Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret 32nd Degree and is represented partly by the hermaphroditic figure.


The belief in the existence of satan belongs to Christianity, not Freemasonry, Hermeticism, or the Girl Scouts.


In reference to the spelling issue, Pike spells it both ways in various texts, just as he interchanges various names for the various identities in Freemasonry and religion, On for Osirus etc…


Please give your references to back up your claim, i.e., book title and page number.


More or less - who cares if the letter was a fake or not?


That’s an interesting statement....it could be paraphrased, “Who cares if you’re lying?”


The same ideals are espoused all through M&D as well as his and other works by Masonic authors like Blavatsky, Levi and Crawley.


Blavatsky was not a “Masonic author”. Both Levi and Crowley were Blue Lodge Masons, but not Scottish Rite Masons, nor did they write on the Scottish Rite. In fact, the bulk of Crowley’s writings focus on his Ordo Templi Orientis, with only passing references to Masonry. Levi’s writings were primarily on Hermeticism. Neither Blavatsky nor Crowley were Christians, and did not believe in that religion’s concept of satan. Levi was a Christian, but was a Christian mystic, and judging from his writings did not believe in a literal devil either. This is pretty apparent to anyone familiar with the Kabbalah, who have read or studied their works.


If you can call a Papal Bull "hate literature" then you may have a point - perhaps you should take this up with Pope John Paul II who reaffirmed the Catholic Churches stance against Freemasonry in 1983?


With all due respect, I don’t give a rat’s rear end what the Catholic Church does.


If you want to base the allegation that FW is debunked by the presence of a Papal Bull and a claimed hoax letter in amongst the 1000s of article displayed there, then you are very closed minded indeed.


I prefer simply to state my case, and allow our readers to do their own research and decide for themselves. The “close-minded” is he who is biased, and seeks information to back up his pre-conceived ideas. The open-minded will approach the subject in complete neutrality, study both sides of the argument, and only then form a conclusion. The latter method tends to work much better, and I think most people here are intelligent enough to apply it.

Fiat Lvx.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 02:23 AM
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You are a well of disinformation; your masters have trained you well in the method of posting any old tosh in point form and repeating the same catch-phases regardless of the situation.
I think most people who bother to read this thread will see the contradictions in your postings, but what really matters is you are probably convincing yourself.
This seems in my experience to the real objective of Masonic disinformation and role-play, it is designated for the "players" and not the "audience."
In their own minds, a Mason always wins an argument or whatever other game they think they are playing.
Because they are so absorbed with the semantics and literal translation of rituals and live role-plays they quite often come across quite poorly but are provided with obligatory “canned laughter” provided by their stooges to make them feel as though they have some relevance to the world.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 11:40 AM
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Actually, all I've seen from you are the same, tired accusations...with you even admitting that you can't back them up because it apparently "doesn't matter", to paraphrase you, if you're telling the truth or not.
It's interesting that you speak of misinformation, as you seem to be very familiar with that tactic.

Fiat Lvx.



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe

[deletia]

Well, I think I'll avoid Scientologists, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons AND Masons. Too many unexplained things in all of thee groups for me.
How do we know that what the Masons tell us here is what they want us to know, or
what we need to know(the truth)???


(I'm about to be sarcastic - watch out!
)

You know what... you're right! And you know what else... my mother often tells me she loves me... what is she after, I wonder?!?!!?
And, you know what... I went to University. I bet those profs were only telling me what they want me to believe! And when I go to church... the priest goes on and on about how I should be loving to other people! She only wants me to behave that way so I can be controlled! I'm not sure how helping the unfortunate and being charitable toward my enemies makes me easier to control, but I know something sinister is actually going on. I mean, heck, look at that communion wine. I asked to watch it being made, but they gave me some phony talk about how it's made in a factory in another city. Feh! It's probably mind-control wine!

And my friends... they claim they like hanging out with me, but how can I trust them? They're probably spying on me!

(OK, I'm done being sarcastic
)

Seriosly, though. I'm a Freemason, and one of those 32nd degree SR Masons too. I tell you in honesty as a man of honour and religion (if that matters to you) that there is nothing sinister in Freemasonry, and that the reason we have secrets is related both to the reason your family discussions are not for outsiders and to the reason you are given information in grades in school; the first because we are not obligated to discuss our private feelings, beliefs, and actions with anyone, and the second because learning is easier when broken down into small chunks.

So, now you have an option. You either consider me a liar and that Freemasonry is sinister, or you accept that there's nothing to be afraid of and we can be friends. Either way, I offer you a phrase common to Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and some parts of Masonry: Peace be with you.



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by AlexKennedy

Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe

[deletia]

Well, I think I'll avoid Scientologists, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons AND Masons.


(I'm about to be sarcastic - watch out!
)
You know what... you're right!


Ummm, I did say that. Boy, it seems like a long time ago.
I have edited it out.

I must say, this place has been a learning experience and I can admit what I said was not correct.

I've decided the Masons are not a bad group.
Can we be friends,



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 06:58 PM
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A door has been opened DTOM.



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